Air strikes ordered by Obama in Iraq!

I'm finding some information from local sources about the people stranded in the mountains.

Thousands of Stranded Civilians Rescued on Mount Shingal By RUDAW 12 hours ago
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Barakat Issa, Rudaw reporter on Mount Shingal said that the number of Yezidis stranded on the mountain is higher than initially reported.

ZAKHO, Kurdistan Region—Local officials said today that 10,000 Yezidis who were stranded on Mount Shingal for one week were rescued and settled in the town of Zakho.

Medical teams and aid organizations in Zakho have rushed in to assist the rescued families, said Rudaw reporter.

Ashti Kocher, Zakho’s security chief said that Kurdish armed forces have opened a safe corridor for the Yezidis at Mount Shingal.

“We have also cleared about 30 kilometers of the ISIL forces in order to open a road for those families,” said Kocher, who currently leads a Peshmerga unit at Sinune village near Shingal.

Kocher said that the rescued civilians were transported to the Kurdistan Region through Rojava (Syrian Kurdistan) which is under the control of Kurdish forces known as the Peoples Protection Units (YPG).

Barakat Issa, Rudaw reporter on Mount Shingal said that the number of Yezidis stranded on the mountain is higher than initially reported. He said that nearly 100,000 people are hiding on the mountain.

Issa said that in the past few days 60 children and elderly have died of hunger and thirst while there is fear that Islamic militants controlling the town of Shingal and other villages have massacred hundreds of others.

Ferhad Hamo, Rudaw reporter in the town of Derik in Rojava said that around 15,000 rescued Yezidis had arrived at Newroz camp in Rojava.

http://rudaw.net/english/kurdistan/080820141
And this from the comments on the story
Shangal mountain is actually a mini range, it's not one mountain, it will take time to get all of the refugees because they're scattered across the mountain range. There were small corridors opened by Peshmerga on Wednesday but many of the refugees were to scared and just refused to leave because the fighting between Peshmerga and IS was so near, small units of Peshmerga were dispatched across the base of the mountain range for protection early on, but things started to really change for the better two days ago when east of the mountain was secured with the help PYD, and a little over a day ago this corridor was secured, then came the American air support last night, food and water are being air dropped and hopefully every refugees will be brought down safely soon.
The American air support is helping to rescue thousands of people.
 

The Kurds are attempting to stand up to the ISIS forces but they are very poorly armed. The ISIS rebel army has US weapons that they have seized from the Iraqi army.

For years the Kurds have asked for access to US arms but have been denied.
Kurdish pleas for weapons may finally be heard

Saturday Aug 9, 2014

WASHINGTON (AP) For years, Kurdish officials have beseeched the Obama administration to let them buy U.S. weapons. And for just as long, the administration has rebuffed the Kurds, America's closest allies in Iraq. U.S. officials insisted they could only sell arms to the government in Baghdad, even after Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki broke a written promise to deliver some of them to the Kurds, whose peaceful, semi-autonomous northern region has been the lone success story to come out of the 2003 U.S. invasion.

Now, the administration is confronting the consequences of that policy. The Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant, which some American officials have dubbed "a terrorist army," overpowered lightly armed Kurdish units in a blitzkrieg that has threatened the Kurdish region and the American personnel stationed there.

In June, the Pentagon dispatched 300 military advisers to Iraq. Dozens of them are operating out of Irbil, the capital of the Kurdish region, which is now under threat from the Islamic State. In a bitter irony, the extremists used American armored vehicles and weapons they had seized from the hapless Iraqi military to defeat Kurdish fighters who were blocked from acquiring just such equipment, U.S. and Kurdish officials said.

The U.S. sought to halt the extremists' advance Friday with airstrikes, but Kurdish officials also say Washington has promised to begin sending them arms. Pentagon officials say their policy hasn't changed they will only sell arms to Baghdad. That raises the question of whether the CIA has begun providing weapons in secret to the Kurds, something U.S. officials will neither confirm nor deny. The CIA declined to comment on whether it was sending arms. But whether or not a covert program is underway, a growing number of voices are calling for the U.S. to begin openly and speedily arming the Kurds.

"If Baghdad isn't supplying the Kurds with the weapons that they need, we should provide them directly to the Kurds," said Rep. Adam Schiff, a California Democrat who serves on the House Intelligence Committee. "The only way to confront this threat is to arm Iraqi security forces and Kurdish forces, and yet we're doing nothing to support either one of those," said retired Gen. Michael Barbero, who used to run the mission training the Iraqi military. "It just doesn't make sense to me. It's an existential threat, so why we are not in there at least equipping and arming them?"

White House spokesman John Earnest said Friday the U.S. has begun stepping up its help to the Iraqi military and the Kurds. "We have a strong military-to-military relationship with Iraq's security forces, and the Iraqi security forces have shared some of those assets with Kurdish security forces," Earnest said. "We have also demonstrated a willingness to increase the flow of supplies, including arms, to Kurdish security forces as they confront the threat that's posed by ISIL."

Karwan Zebari, spokesman for the Iraqi Kurdistan region in Washington, said in an interview that U.S. officials have assured him that guns and ammunition would be forthcoming.

"Last night, they said, 'We will be moving expediently with providing you some military assets,'" he said Friday.
The U.S. has not wanted to stoke the Kurds' desire for, and Baghdad's fear of, an independent Kurdish state. Officials tried to steer some of the aid to the Kurds, but it didn't work.

Under the Pentagon's foreign military sales program, some $200 million worth of American weapons that was supposed to be earmarked for the Kurds by the Maliki government was never delivered to them, Barbero said.
"This policy of one Iraq, everything goes through Baghdad, ignores the reality on the ground," Barbero said in an interview.

Zebari and Barbero said Kurdish forces have been outgunned by ISIL troops driving in armored American Humvees and firing American machine guns seized from the Iraqi army.

"It's not that the peshmerga forces are scared or not willing to fight," Zebari said, referring to the Kurdish militia. "They are coming at us with armored Humvees and we're throwing these AK-47 bullets at them. It doesn't do anything. At some point you run out of bullets."

The Kurds have some tanks and armored vehicles, but not in Sinjar, a city far from the Kurdish seats of power in Irbil and Suliminiya. That city fell swiftly to an onslaught from Islamic State fighters, leading thousands of members of the Yazidi religious minority to flee to a mountaintop, where the U.S. has airdropped supplies to stave off deaths from hunger and thirst. Many of the peshmerga soldiers defending Sinjar had just six magazines of ammunition, said a former CIA official with close ties to the region who spoke on condition of anonymity because he got the information in confidence.

U.S. airstrikes are not "the endgame," Zebari said. "What has changed for the peshmerga on the ground? Nothing. We still need that military equipment."

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11306579
 
re:The American air support is helping to rescue thousands of people.

Well thats good,big problem is where are the rest of the civilized world countries that could lend a hand???

If they dont want to help then US should take notice and cut back doing this rescue until they wake up.
 

We have a couple of assets in the area that have been offered in the dropping of humanitarian aid.
We have no fighter jets or drones though.

I understand the Brits and some EU countries have also offered to help.
Why do you assume that it is only the US that is willing to do anything?

Australia has offered to help the United States provide humanitarian assistance to refugees in Iraq, the Prime Minister says.
Tony Abbott says he spoke with US officials overnight to discuss what has been described as "potential genocide" in Iraq.

"This is a humanitarian disaster potentially on a massive scale," he said.
"President [Barack] Obama has already said that it has the potential to become a genocide and that's why it's important for Australia to join with our international partners in doing what we can to render humanitarian assistance."

Mr Abbott says Australia has two C-130 Herculesmilitary aircraft based in the United Arab Emirates that could assist with air drops within days.
"We're looking to see how quickly we can get crews there," he said.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-...lp-in-providing-iraq-humanitarian-aid/5660362


British military aircraft are on their way to northern Iraq to make humanitarian airdrops in the troubled region.
Two C130s left RAF Brize Norton yesterday, as the Foreign Secretary announced "a continuing drumbeat of airdrop operations" around the Sinjar mountains, where thousands of people from the Yazidi minority religious group have been trapped.

The US has begun airstrikes against Islamic State (IS) extremist targets engaging Kurdish forces near the key city of Irbil, but Britain has ruled out military action at this stage.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-2720951/Aid-aircraft-way-Iraq.html#ixzz39y7Hl06C
 
The Kurds are now getting new weapons but the source is secret.

Turkish F-16s have taken off from the military airport in Amed (Diyarbakir) towards the sky south of (Iraqi) Kurdistan to monitor the situation in the areas where there is ongoing fighting between Peshmergas and ISIS, especially the borders of Makhmour in the Kurdistan Region, the Sabah newspaper reported.

The report came as Kurdish Peshmerga forces were pushing ahead with an offensive that began Saturday.
The Kurds, whose Peshmergas are seen as the key to turning the tide against IS armies fighting in Syria and in control of large parts of Iraq, have been winning greater international support, after weeks of pleading for arms and expertise.

The Peshmergas have no air power but formidable ground forces. Peshmerga officials have confirmed the forces are now equipped with new heavy weapons, but have remained mum about where the arms were coming from.


Jet fighters have been seen pounding IS positions, with Iraq saying its air forces were involved in the fighting. A US official also told Rudaw that Washington was going to provide air power. The reports of Turkish involvement coincided with Peshmergas fighting on the border of Mosul, Iraq’s second-largest city which the militants have named as the capital of their self-declared Caliphate.

http://rudaw.net/english/middleeast/iraq/070820142
 
Hard to watch children scrambling up mountain sides as the families flee the killing and raping, when you know they have no food or water.It's cold up there too.So many of them will die, unless food is dropped regularly . Missile strikes at ISIS may help.
 
re:Why do you assume that it is only the US that is willing to do anything?

There hasnt been any news reports of any other countries helping out thats why I mentioned it....
Today I read something about those countries lending a hand.
The Kurds have no weapons to defend themselves,where's the help? Just the U.S.?
 
The UK is to "step up" aid supplies and send more "humanitarian advisers" to parts of Iraq under threat from Islamist militants, No 10 has said.
A British military aircraft made the first drop of UK aid in Iraq overnight.
The bundle included 1,200 reusable water containers and 240 solar lanterns that can also recharge mobile phones.
Thousands of members of the Yazidi religious minority are still trapped on a mountain in northern Iraq after fleeing from Islamist militants.
A Downing Street spokesman said the situation was "deeply worrying" but that it was possible some of the people who had been trapped on Mount Sinjar might have escaped off the mountain to the north.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28732992
 
I haven't heard of any other countries helping either Davey, if the UK and Australia begin to active help, that would be nice. It does appear that the US often takes on most of the burdens when helping other countries, wish there was more attention to some problems at home too, or the US will be in trouble next.
 
The US has refused to arm the Kurds....that is why they have no weapons; so UK, stupidly, followed suit.
now they are...
 
Probably, but it could also be the Turks.
They're not fans of the Kurds but probably fear ISIS more.

I know it's not us. We don't make armaments any more and anything we give away is probably at least 50 years old.
 
We're not counting on it. :waiting:

If push comes to shove the US will protect its Australian assets in the Northern Territory.

We're part of your spy network but if those bases are taken out early we don't expect to see you Downunder.
You'll have your hands full just as Britain did after the fall of Singapore during WW II.

We might have to rely on China :eek1:
 
Yes, perhaps we should abandon Australia and our assets there as you could be a traitorous pain in the aspirin...
 
And that's the thanks we get for keeping you safe all of these years so you could enjoy your tinnies...
 


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