Air Travel Changing

Don M.

Well-known member
Location
central Missouri
I've used air travel for probably over 50 years....and it sure has changed over the decades. Back in the 1960's, when I took my first flight, air travel was almost a special experience. People dressed up like they were going out for a special occasion, and the airline service was almost like going to a luxury hotel. Now, some people show up acting like they are traveling on a city bus or subway....and I'm surprised that a person can still get a cup of water without paying a surcharge.
 

Lc jones

Well-known member
Location
Florida
I used to love flying because the airlines treated people like people and not like cattle. I no longer fly unless there’s a family emergency. And as I live in a really beautiful place I don’t miss it one bit.
 

treeguy64

Hari Om, y'all!
Location
Austin, TX.
I don't fly, anymore. For business, I flew four to six times a week, when I was a young man. Now, with the types of folks who fly, chances of terroristic activities, unsafe craft, unskilled maintenance workers, crazy pilots........No thanks!

I've always preferred driving, even cross country. I like the scenery, and I like making unplanned stops to check out points of interest. My world travels are over, obviously, and I regret that, but there's always the internet, to "take me" to those places I'll never visit, in person.
 

oldman

Well-known member
Location
PA
Original Poster
I don't fly, anymore. For business, I flew four to six times a week, when I was a young man. Now, with the types of folks who fly, chances of terroristic activities, unsafe craft, unskilled maintenance workers, crazy pilots........No thanks!

I've always preferred driving, even cross country. I like the scenery, and I like making unplanned stops to check out points of interest. My world travels are over, obviously, and I regret that, but there's always the internet, to "take me" to those places I'll never visit, in person.
As for unsafe aircraft, you must be referring to the Boeing 737 MAX 8 & 900 series. Boeing definitely has some software issues with their new flight system, but I am also confident that they will get it done. I live by my statement that flying has never been safer that it is at this time in our lives.

I was only a few weeks away from being trained on the Boeing Triple 7 and I was looking forward to it. However, along came an early out deal that I would have been foolish to walk away from.
 

Peachy

Member
Location
Florida
I refuse to fly anymore. I got treated awful in the inspection line. I told them I had a colostomy and please don't embarrass me. They still made me throw my arms in the air and spin around in a circle while they took x-ray pictures in front of the public. NEVER AGAIN.
 

treeguy64

Hari Om, y'all!
Location
Austin, TX.
I refuse to fly anymore. I got treated awful in the inspection line. I told them I had a colostomy and please don't embarrass me. They still made me throw my arms in the air and spin around in a circle while they took x-ray pictures in front of the public. NEVER AGAIN.
I would NEVER allow those poorly-trained agents to use an x-ray source, of any kind, on me. I don't allow dentists to x-ray me! Next time, if there is one, demand a private search, in a closed room, no x-rays! Other than that, as you're currently doing, and as I do, likewise: When it comes to flying, JUST SAY "NO!"
 

oldman

Well-known member
Location
PA
Original Poster
I am a little out of touch with the new TSA screening rules and laws that have recently been passed and a few still going through the Appeals Courts. The very last that I was aware of was that passengers have the right to ask for a private screening or pat down. Passengers also may bring along a companion to witness the private screening and passengers may also ask for a same gender TSA agent to conduct the pat down. If a pat down is agreed upon, the passenger may request and the TSA Agent shall change their gloves before proceeding with a pat down.

This is not something bad. This is being done for everyone's protection. Airlines have no authority over the TSA Agents. They are hired by government agents. I will admit that I have seen some pretty picky agents and that not all agents act in a consistent manner. The manner in which a TSA Agent conducts his scan in Tampa, may not be the same as a TSA Agent performs his job in Denver. If there are any alerts that have been issued and Agents have been forewarned to look for certain people or items, the public would never know about it for obvious reasons.

It's all about keeping the friendly skies friendly and safe for everyone.
 

toffee

Well-known member
Location
uk
THE PILOT -heard a few screams Oldman lol
--it would have been me for sure .. anyway iam all for high security in any airport 'even if it takes longer . better safe than sorry I say .
 

Peachy

Member
Location
Florida
I am a little out of touch with the new TSA screening rules and laws that have recently been passed and a few still going through the Appeals Courts. The very last that I was aware of was that passengers have the right to ask for a private screening or pat down. Passengers also may bring along a companion to witness the private screening and passengers may also ask for a same gender TSA agent to conduct the pat down. If a pat down is agreed upon, the passenger may request and the TSA Agent shall change their gloves before proceeding with a pat down.

This is not something bad. This is being done for everyone's protection. Airlines have no authority over the TSA Agents. They are hired by government agents. I will admit that I have seen some pretty picky agents and that not all agents act in a consistent manner. The manner in which a TSA Agent conducts his scan in Tampa, may not be the same as a TSA Agent performs his job in Denver. If there are any alerts that have been issued and Agents have been forewarned to look for certain people or items, the public would never know about it for obvious reasons.

It's all about keeping the friendly skies friendly and safe for everyone.
I get security issues totally. That is why I was upfront with my condition. They should have taken me into a private area for inspection.
 

oldman

Well-known member
Location
PA
Original Poster
I will be flying in a few weeks. Now that I am retired, I go through the same TSA checks everyone else does at the airport. I do have a TSA clearance, which helps speed the process a little. I think anyone that doesn’t mind spending $80.00 or so dollars can also get a KTN number by making application and obtaining the necessary clearances.
 

Lethe200

Active member
TSA PreCheck is $85 for a five-yr period. It does save a lot of time, but that didn't help when everyone had to wait for the destination airport to clear our plane's flight path because of bad weather. At least we could hang around the airport and didn't have to wait inside the plane!

For short hops, we're going to start using semi-private airlines. We live very close to one of the airports they use, and for the places we want to go, it's easier, faster, and worth the extra cost to be able to park the car nearby and walk onto the plane 1/2 hr before take-off - just like the old days, LOL.
 

911

Well-known member
Location
USA
We just returned from our trip to Florida. The trip was great, except for the flights. We flew Southwest Airlines and was scheduled to leave on Monday evening at 7:30 pm. As we “arrived” at the airport, I got a text from SW telling me that my flight was delayed until 9:30. Oh, crap. What a start to a vacation. We traveled with our daughter and grandson. We finally got off the ground at 10:10 pm. and arrived in Ft. Lauderdale at midnight, which we had to then get our luggage, call the shuttle and go to the hotel. We got to bed at 1:00 am.

Yesterday, on our return trip, we were to fly out of Tampa at 4:00 pm. I received another text at 10:00 am telling me that my flight was canceled. Are you kidding me? I called SW and was able to book a return trip at 11:45. We had to really hustle to make it, but yes, we did. In fact, we were 10 minutes before boarding. Not bad, but I’m glad that no speed traps were setup because we may have been late.

Anyway, we went, had a really great time, and came home all safe and well, so, I can look back on this trip and say it was a pleasure to have done it.
 


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