JaniceM
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Uncool. Totally uncool.Don't mean to offend you, other SFers, veterans or the military but how does that square with Parris Island graduates?
Uncool. Totally uncool.Don't mean to offend you, other SFers, veterans or the military but how does that square with Parris Island graduates?
So, instead of prison, violent criminals and murderers should receive mental therapy, and when deemed cured, released back into society, or?IMO, Anyone who commits a murder, or any violent act IS mentally ill.
Good point "oldiebut goody. I blame it on the media who is often so desperate to print the next BIG news story that often they "jump the gun" before they have all the facts. I have seen this over and over.But let's all bear in mind that, so far, we do not have any evidence in front of us. For all we know she was kidnapped, brainwashed like cultists do, and had no mind of her own. Recall the suicide cults (Jonestown, Heaven's Gate, Kanungu Cult) and the consequences of brain washing. Perhaps this happened to her. We don't know at this point. Let's wait for all the facts to be fully disclosed, analyzed, and conclusions drawn by informed jury members before we reach judgment.
Nope....IMO, mental illness should NOT be used as an excuse for a murderer. I'm not a fan if Islam and Sharia Law, but I think those people have it right.....a murderers trial is held on Monday, and the execution is conducted on Tuesday.So, instead of prison, violent criminals and murderers should receive mental therapy, and when deemed cured, released back into society, or?
Seems to me you are right on the nose with your final sentence, OneEyedDiva. She certainly is over 18 and of a voting age. Too often in these stories we tend to blame the parents or some boyfriend/girlfriend, the community, bad luck, brainwashing, etc. People just need to smarten up and say NO! There was a campaign maybe 20 years ago that said "Say NO to Drugs." Saying no could apply many things including driving and using a smartphone at the same time or throwing garbage out your vehicle window. If you ask me, more people need to learn to say NO in more bad situations.These Jihadists either didn't read their Qurans or ignored the parts that forbid the "killing of innocents" and declare suicide a major sin (suicide bombers). I watched a documentary on how people (in it mostly young men) are indoctrinated. Definitely brain washing going on. I couldn't believe one young man's mother said she'd feel honored if her son died as a suicide bomber!! WTH! After watching the show, I could see that their methods were affective. I have no sympathy or mercy for this woman.
I'll ask John HinckleySo, instead of prison, violent criminals and murderers should receive mental therapy, and when deemed cured, released back into society, or?
Sorry, but I have to disagree with your assessment of the Quran. The Quran does contain passages supporting violence directed against non-believers who oppose Islam, and just as importantly, Muslims are also guided by a study of the life and actions of the Prophet Muhammad, who let's face it, was not exactly a pacifist. A web site ( https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ ) attempts to document attacks made around the world in the name of Islam against non believers. Month of January: 140 attacks, 723 killed, 389 injured.
That is because they do not recognize the insanity defense, as Insane is a legal term/doctrine, not medical, as states are not required to allow for an insanity defense, but most do. A medical evaluation will allow the Judge to determine the proper sentence though, such as, the execution of a detacto mentally retarded person is Unconstitutional, etc.Did you know that in some states, Idaho comes to mind, mental illness is not a legal defense for murder.![]()
Maybe it's unconstitutional, but it certainly happens.That is because they do not recognize the insanity defense, as Insane is a legal term/doctrine, not medical, as states are not required to allow for an insanity defense, but most do. A medical evaluation will allow the Judge to determine the proper sentence though, such as, the execution of a detacto mentally retarded person is Unconstitutional, etc.
Personally I'm an agnostic, but in all fairness the Crusades and Spanish Inquisition ended centuries ago. This is the here and now and hundreds die every month in the name of Islam. Check out the link ...That may well be true of the Koran. But it is also true of the Bible and more people have been killed in its name than for any other reason in human history, sad to say.
I happen to be reading about the rise of Islam at the moment and it is not a religion of love, peace and harmony. The atrocities being committed by the current ISIS group are replicating the actions of the first Muslims.These Jihadists either didn't read their Qurans or ignored the parts that forbid the "killing of innocents" and declare suicide a major sin (suicide bombers). I watched a documentary on how people (in it mostly young men) are indoctrinated. Definitely brain washing going on. I couldn't believe one young man's mother said she'd feel honored if her son died as a suicide bomber!! WTH! After watching the show, I could see that their methods were affective. I have no sympathy or mercy for this woman.
Personally I'm an agnostic, but in all fairness the Crusades and Spanish Inquisition ended centuries ago. This is the here and now and hundreds die every month in the name of Islam. Check out the link ...
https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/attacks.aspx?Yr=Last30
I'm not going to continue this argument, but needless to say I completely disagree. Once again, as an Agnostic I think I can be objective.It will be recalled that Bush called his wars upon the Middle East a "crusade". Those wars killed one million people. This again proves that it is the Christians (not Muslims) who are the world's greatest murderers.
It will be recalled that Bush called his wars upon the Middle East a "crusade". Those wars killed one million people. This again proves that it is the Christians (not Muslims) who are the world's greatest murderers.
Don't mean to offend you, other SFers, veterans or the military but how does that square with Parris Island graduates?
Perhaps it is true of both books, but these days peope are not being killed in the name of the Bible. They still are in Saudi Arabia and some other Muslim countries..That may well be true of the Koran. But it is also true of the Bible and more people have been killed in its name than for any other reason in human history, sad to say.
It would take hours to unpack all the BS contained in those three short sentences.
Murder is a normal human activity. Cain v. Abel?IMO, Anyone who commits a murder, or any violent act IS mentally ill.
Murder is a normal human activity. Cain v. Abel?
Don't know why I even said that part. Forget I said that! Make believe it only says Murder is a normal human activity. Thank you.How do we know it really happned? Or is it a made up story to teach the folly of jealousy!
Thats easy kill them all ,throw out some bandaids, call it a Humanitarian Mission, said to me one time coming into a hot zone.Don't know why I even said that part. Forget I said that! Make believe it only says Murder is a normal human activity. Thank you.