Americans Want Congress to Reject Iran Deal

I am not sure that poll or the CNN statement actually represents the "majority" of Americans and I support the treaty.
 

Depends what poll you look at.. Washington post has Americans favoring the deal 2 to 1

By a nearly 2 to 1 margin, Americans support the notion of striking a deal with Iran that restricts the nation’s nuclear program in exchange for loosening sanctions, a new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds.
But the survey — released hours before Tuesday’s negotiating deadline — also finds few Americans are hopeful that such an agreement will be effective. Nearly six in 10 say they are not confident that a deal will prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons, unchanged from 15 months ago, when the United States, France, Britain, Germany, China and Russia reached an interim agreement with Iran aimed at sealing a long-term deal.
Overall, the poll finds 59 percent support an agreement in which the United States and its negotiating partners lift major economic sanctions in exchange for restrictions on Iran’s nuclear program. Thirty-one percent oppose a deal.
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I certainly support the deal..
 
Here's one that breaks it down by party.. Ya think the CNN poll mainly polled Republicans????

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I think the fear of anything 'nuclear' gives what support this treaty is getting. Many of the surveyed probably don't even know why the sanctions were in place or the hostage crisis from 1979-early 1981.
 
QuickSilver said:
Here's one that breaks it down by party.. Ya think the CNN poll mainly polled Republicans????

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Look what happens when you strip out the biased thinking political parties, Republicans and Democrats. We go from one exaggeration to a opposite exaggeration but the independents do give us a fair and even distribution.

We just have to get rid of political parties and only have candidate names and voter boxes on our ballots. We need to eliminate these biased opinions from the ballots.
 
Rocky said:
Nor do I, Jim. Polls I've seen are definitely pro-treaty. Methinks there are some watching too much Faux news!
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I don't think so either.....in spite of the kind of money Israel has put into the propaganda for the opposition, some or all of that money probably came from the US.
 
Israel it using us for all they are worth.... We fight wars for them.. we send them aid... we bend over backwards to not upset them and even let them influence our politics. .. and why? Because Israel figures into the Right Wing Religious ideology involving the "final days" which states that Jews must control all of the Holy Land before the 2nd coming of Christ. It's not a love for the Jewish people... in fact they fully expect them to convert to Christianity before the Rapture.. or will burn in hell..
 
QuickSilver said:
Israel it using us for all they are worth.... We fight wars for them.. we send them aid... we bend over backwards to not upset them and even let them influence our politics. .. and why? Because Israel figures into the Right Wing Religious ideology involving the "final days" which states that Jews must control all of the Holy Land before the 2nd coming of Christ. It's not a love for the Jewish people... in fact they fully expect them to convert to Christianity before the Rapture.. or will burn in hell..
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Exactly!
 
QuickSilver said:
Israel it using us for all they are worth.... We fight wars for them.. we send them aid... we bend over backwards to not upset them and even let them influence our politics. .. and why? Because Israel figures into the Right Wing Religious ideology involving the "final days" which states that Jews must control all of the Holy Land before the 2nd coming of Christ. It's not a love for the Jewish people... in fact they fully expect them to convert to Christianity before the Rapture.. or will burn in hell..
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Yes, there's certainly this weird religious rationale, but more important is the influence of a lot of deep pocket American Jews who have an inordinate amount of political influence.
In the end I'm totally convinced that Chuck Schumer will come out and support the agreement.
 
Lon said:
CNN says majority of Americans want Congress to reject the deal. Are you in the Majority?
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If that it the majority, which I doubt from all I've read, then I am not in the "majority".

Jackie22 said:
I don't think so either.....not with the kind of money Israel has put into the propaganda for the opposition, some or all of that money probably came from the US.
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I've linked to an AIPAC related site in another thread (the rally in NY) clearly showing the Israel push in America against this deal. Here's another article some may be interested to read. https://consortiumnews.com/2015/07/24/israel-clears-the-bench-in-iran-fight/


Israel Clears the Bench in Iran Fight

July 24, 2015

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 Israel – in its desperation to kill the Iran nuclear deal – is exposing its often-denied influence over the U.S. political/media process.

Israeli officials are even using football analogies to rally U.S. lawmakers while emptying the bench of friendly “experts” to mount a goal-line stand, writes Robert Parry.

By Robert Parry
Israel’s Ambassador to the United States Ron Dermer, acting like the coach of a football team, instructed congressional Republicans to “leave everything on the field” in the fight to defeat the international agreement with Iran over its nuclear energy program, a sign of how openly Israel now feels it controls the GOP.

Israel wants the Iran deal killed so it can keep open options for bombing Iran and imposing “regime change.” And, immediately after Dermer’s locker-room-style pep talk, Republican members of Congress began falling into line, lashing out at Secretary of State John Kerry and other senior officials who negotiated the agreement reached earlier this month between six world powers and Iran.

Secretary of State John Kerry and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. (State Department photo)

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House Speaker John Boehner announced that he would “do everything possible to stop” the deal. Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker told Kerry that he’d been “fleeced.” Sen. Marco Rubio, a Republican candidate for president, said the next president – presumably meaning himself if he’s successful – could overturn the deal because it’s not a binding treaty.

All this was remarkable even to The New York Times, which usually looks the other way when Israel flexes its muscles in Official Washington.

A Times article by Jonathan Weisman noted the extraordinary image of the Israeli ambassador using sports analogies to rile up Republican congressmen to overturn a key foreign policy initiative of the U.S. president.

“Mr. Dermer’s plea — which is widely expected to be followed by a mail, television and radio assault in Democratic districts during the August recess — demonstrates the power that the Israeli government and supportive interest groups in Washington maintain over congressional Republicans,” Weisman wrote.

Obviously, some of this Republican opposition is driven by a deep-seated animus toward President Barack Obama, but the confidence that Dermer, a onetime aide to former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich, showed in rallying Republicans to Israel’s foreign policy priority of hostility toward Iran reveals the degree to which the GOP as a party now ties its agenda in the Mideast to Israel.

Connections between Republicans and right-wing Israelis have grown tighter since the presidency of George W. Bush who began implementing Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s strategy of “regime change” against countries on his enemies list, starting with Iraq in 2003. [See Consortiumnews.com’s “The Mysterious Why of the Iraq War.”]

Since then, wealthy Israeli backers, such as casino magnate Sheldon Adelson, have funneled huge sums of money into Republican campaigns.

In 2012, Netanyahu virtually endorsed GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney. And, on March 3, House Speaker Boehner invited Netanyahu to deliver a speech to a joint session of Congress that was remarkable in its overt appeal to American lawmakers to embrace Israel’s foreign policy regarding Iran – over the head of the sitting U.S. president.


Clearing the Bench

In its current pull-out-all-the-stops to show who controls the U.S. political/media process, Israel also is throwing other key assets into this high-stakes fight.

For instance, Steven Emerson, who has long posed as a professional journalist and then as a terrorism expert, was a featured speaker at a Times Square rally urging not only death to the nuclear deal but death to Iran.
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This morning, a T-V commercial advertisement was presented asking demand be made of representatives to quash the deal. imp
 
imp said:
This morning, a T-V commercial advertisement was presented asking demand be made of representatives to quash the deal. imp
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Ahhhh.... yes.... Thanks Citizens United... Lots of $$$$$$$ available to influence politics.. Bet the Ad was bought and paid for by those looking to profit from more WAR... AND to those who do not want Iran to start producing and selling oil again... thus driving down the prices.. Follow the money honey.

Within hours of the announcement of an Iran nuclear deal early on Tuesday, lawyers around Washington were fielding calls from U.S. corporate clients eager to know what the 159-page deal would mean for their business prospects.

U.S. companies face losing out to foreign competitors in Iran as they wait for signs that Tuesday's historic nuclear agreement is sticking and that U.S. lawmakers are willing to loosen long-standing restrictions on trade and investment, according to corporate lawyers and company executives.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/us-b...of-the-iran-nuclear-deal-2015-7#ixzz3hIui5W8D

So again.. the wealthy and corporations are able fool gullible Americans into voting for the Corporate interest..
 
Sounds like Netanyahu is suppressing all those in Israel who do not agree with his opposition to the Iran Deal, not surprising. Full story here.


A report out of Israel claims that Prime Minister Netanyahu is covering up and suppressing Israeli intelligence that disagrees with his opposition to Obama’s Iran nuclear deal.

According to Haaretz:

There are those in the Intelligence Corps, including those in the research division dealing with Iran, who have a very positive view of the nuclear agreement. Their views, at variance with the totally negative stance taken by Netanyahu and Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon, have bubbled up to the level of Halevy, Chief of Staff Gadi Eisenkot and others, but there too they have been swallowed up as if they had never existed.

Although this is not usually the case in the Intelligence Corps, as opposed to that regarding state secrets, these views are being concealed from the public. Where is the oversight department that is supposed to present contrarian views to the accepted wisdom?…..
Netanyahu, who is afraid of the publication of intelligence assessments that contradict his own, wants to prevent the public and the U.S. Congress from seeing the cracks in the false facade of a unified Israeli front that opposes the agreement with Iran. Military officers who cooperate with this approach are in breach of their national duty.
Netanyahu’s behavior sounds very similar to that of the Bush administration before the United States invaded Iraq. At the time, the administration officials pushing for war in Iraq ignored, suppressed, or discredited any intelligence that disagreed with the Bush/Cheney assessment of Iraq as a fast and easy war to win.​
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The result was a mismanaged disaster of a war in Iraq that neither the American or the Iraqi people have yet to recover fully from.

Netanyahu is trying to woo Senate Democrats into opposing the deal. Israeli intelligence reports that disagree with his opposition to the deal would be fatal to his plan of getting enough votes in the Senate to kill the deal.

Prime Minister Netanyahu is still interfering in American politics, and he is doing it in the most disingenuous manner possible. The peoples of both Israel and the United States deserve to see all of the Israeli intelligence on the deal.

Republicans in Congress and Netanyahu are trying to put over a WMD level lie on the American people. Instead of mushroom clouds, it’s nuclear programs, and getting rid of Saddam has been replaced by war with Iran.
 
The people of Iran want the deal and I'm with them. Further, from what I have heard and read, it is not a perfect deal but good enough...
 

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