An Interesting Fact of History (that probably isn't taught in school)

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An interesting fact of American history that I just found out about. Did anyone know that Prescott Bush (George Bush's grandfather and senior's father) was a conspirator in trying to start a military coup to overthrow FDR and bring a Fascist government to America? And that Grandpa was quite a supporter of Hitler and Mussolini, both financial and in principal.

My husband was looking at a website that was about conspiracy theories that turned out to be true and that's where he came up with this.
 

Between the two world wars a lot of people thought fascism was a good idea. Even the heir to the British throne was a sympathiser. In Australia units of ex-army men with strong right wing political views (not exactly fascists but close) were forming. They called themselves the New Guard and they stood ready to unseat the elected governments if they deemed it necessary. The second world war demonstrated that their faith was misplaced.

I suspect Prescott Bush was thinking along the same lines. He wouldn't have been the only one.
 
Dame Warrigal said:
Between the two world wars a lot of people thought fascism was a good idea. Even the heir to the British throne was a sympathiser. In Australia units of ex-army men with strong right wing political views (not exactly fascists but close) were forming. They called themselves the New Guard and they stood ready to unseat the elected governments if they deemed it necessary. The second world war demonstrated that their faith was misplaced.

I suspect Prescott Bush was thinking along the same lines. He wouldn't have been the only one.
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To think that something is a good idea is one thing, but then to try to bring about a military coup of an elected democratic government is another thing entirely. I find it interesting that A. This was hidden from the American people B. The traitors son and grandson went on to be elected to that democratic government as Presidents C. That that country espouses and tries to manipulate other countries into 'doing democracy' their way D. That 'democratic' government aided and abetted the overthrow of another elected, democratic government. and E. Prescott was a Nazi lover/supporter and look how cozy Israel and America have been for decades! The world is a bizarre place indeed. And the moral of the story is, never trust a politician.
 

Falcon said:
:weird: I'm sure that if we could go back in history far enough, we could find something distasteful about
almost ANYBODY . So, What's the point?
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The point is that history is not all honky dory especially US history. Does it deserve an entire chapter in history book-no. Does it deserve a mention-yes. You have to learn from history or the same mistake will be repeated. People like to think the US as the Three Musketeers all for one and one for all. The mere existence of dissent scares the crap out of a lot of politicians-they assume and demand they will get a 110% loyalty. Look at what is going on today. It's how you handle and treat that dissent that gets a spot or non spot in a history book.

This also shows just because a person a bares a particular last name does not make them the perceived person their name is associated with. This would also explain some policy decisions and political leanings of their off spring.

The point is learn from history. This lesson includes that no one or thing is immune from dissent or conspiracy. And there have been and always will be different opinions & attitudes.
 
I think there's a lot of history that looks poorly on the actions of the US and its politicians, I think it should be in the history books, but never will be.
 
Yes I had read all I could about Prescott Bush and the many other conspiracies that may or may not have factual data. I got lost in the vortex back in the 90's I downloaded everything I could and printed off reams and reams of papers about them. I started with the Kennedy assassination and moved through to the Twin towers (911). I couldn't shut up about it and bored many of my friends with the information, I read about the 'Bay of Pigs' and the connection to the Bush's. I was convinced that either the CIA or the Mafia had a hand in the shootings. Could be but it was something I couldn't change. I was convinced that Nixon, Reagan, Ford, Bush's and the Clintons were involved. I studied the 'Octopus', the connection to the Bay of Pigs and Zapata Oil. I was convinced that Dubya being a member of Yale's Skull and Bones was behind many conspiracies.

I read what I could about Mena Arkansas and the supposed drug connections and the Clintons (he was AG of Arkansas at the time Contra drugs were being flown into Mena). I still question what Hilary had to do with the suicide of Vince Foster and the aftermath, also what went down with Bill and her over the Whitewater fiasco. The 'Friends of Bill', is a Wag the Dog type smokescreen. There are so many theories and conjectures it's hard to believe anything anymore. I reached a stage of my life where I can't do anything more than talk about it. I have no control over it and I decided I need to make peace with myself and quit worrying about it.
 
I was watching a program on a late night TV a couple nights ago, and the speakers were saying that most Americans are being hoodwinked by today's political rubbish.
They were saying that our elected four and eight year presidents and other elected officials are just smoke screens.
They said if we really want to know who is pulling the national strings, then we need to look to the appointed civil servants that have been in Washington DC for 20 to 30 years or more.
What do you think?
Are they truly just giving us a few pre-choosen, pre-molded candidates to vote for? :dunno:
 
If someone wants to muddy the name of G. W. Bush, well let them get in line! I just don't like to see them digging up his Grandpap's grave to get the mud.
 
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I think its wonderful and so encouraging to read comments like all of yours...you are 'onto things' and have woken up... that doesn't mean that everything is 'bad'...it means that we've taken the blinders off and that we OWN OUR OWN MINDS! Yahoooo! :D
 
Well said Bettyann, most of us are awake about what is, and what has happened in this country. Very true, not everything is bad, and even better, that we don't belong to the flock of 'sheeple' who believe everything they hear on the local news or read in history books, etc. I think a lot that happens in the political theater is smoke and mirrors.
 
Falcon said:
:weird: I'm sure that if we could go back in history far enough, we could find something distasteful about
almost ANYBODY . So, What's the point?
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The difference is that the country in question (we're not talking individuals who maybe steal a loaf of bread or a chocolate bar when they're kids) touts itself as the leader of the free world, spreading democracy and freedom throughout the world AND the best friend of the victims of the Holocaust. The contradictions are humongous and laughable particularly in view of that same country's predilection for aiding in the overthrow of elected governments and arming terrorist organizations around the world and then going on to send their own massive army replete with high tech weapons to kill enormous numbers of civilians in those countries and still and always flying the flag of 'Freedom and Democracy For All'.

And even that country's own history shows that elected Presidents have come out of backgrounds that at 'their fathers knee' learned that overthrowing elected governments is a useful method of running a democracy if you don't like that democracy. That's the point.

When do the people of the Western world start calling out our politicians for this kind of psychotic behaviour? I've emailed my Prime Ministers office and our Foreign Affairs office a few times, expressing my dissatisfaction for our 'Canadian' response to Palestine/Israel and our frantic 'running after the approval of the US' by poking Russia in the eye with a little pointy stick. What have you done? Do you ever let the guys 'you' elected, know that the continual war mongering is wrong and only going to cause immeasurable hurt to everyone except the politicians that are causing it. That is the point.
 
Ina said:
I was watching a program on a late night TV a couple nights ago, and the speakers were saying that most Americans are being hoodwinked by today's political rubbish.
They were saying that our elected four and eight year presidents and other elected officials are just smoke screens.
They said if we really want to know who is pulling the national strings, then we need to look to the appointed civil servants that have been in Washington DC for 20 to 30 years or more.
What do you think?
Are they truly just giving us a few pre-choosen, pre-molded candidates to vote for? :dunno:
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Well here's something to think about that goes hand in hand with your comment. After Obama was elected the first time, and considering who held positions on power in the various offices that brought about the 2008 economic collapse that was felt around the world, who did he appoint to continue to hold offices in his cabinet, but the same guys that held positions and caused it. Doesn't that make a whole whack of sense!

If a business owner had an office manger who ruined his company and brought it to the brink of bankruptcy, and he decided to reorganize and try to start over, don't you think he'd look for a new office manager? Someone with competence and the skill needed to run a successful company? But in Obama's case, he did maybe a bit of a shuffle and everyone just gets a 'new' office.
 
SeaBreeze said:
Well said Bettyann, most of us are awake about what is, and what has happened in this country. Very true, not everything is bad, and even better, that we don't belong to the flock of 'sheeple' who believe everything they hear on the local news or read in history books, etc. I think a lot that happens in the political theater is smoke and mirrors.
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If "sheeple" believe everything they hear on the news or read in history books, what do you call those who accept every conspiracy theroy as fact?
 
The ones who accept every conspiracy as fact, fools. The ones that accept some conspiracy theories as fact, truth seekers.
 

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