Another Letter From Republicans

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[h=1]Republicans Write Letter To U.N. Encouraging Countries To Ignore Obama. Sound Familiar?[/h]It’s no secret that the Republican Party loathes President Obama with a seething anger. He demolished their candidates in two separate elections. He has managed to accomplish a great deal during his terms despite their avowed goal of obstruction. But perhaps worst of all, he has become increasingly popular over the years as his agenda gets realized. Republicans look like the spoiled brat throwing a temper tantrum – and they know it.

In a new odious tactic that circumvents having to actually beat Obama politically (which they can’t do) or win over the public (which they also can’t do), Republicans have taken to the radical approach of undermining the president by going behind his back and insisting to other world leaders that the president is not important, not to be trusted, and safely ignored. According to an exclusive report by Reuters, Republican congressional leaders have sent a letter to the United Nations, asking that member countries back away from any climate deal that Obama might offer.

The Obama administration’s plan for U.N. climate change talks encountered swift opposition after its release Tuesday, with Republican leaders warning other countries to “proceed with caution” in negotiations with Washington because any deal could be later undone.​

Sound familiar? That is because the same Republicans just told Iran roughly the same thing. Don’t bother with the president because we will kill any deal you make. For Americans, a Republican Party bent on stopping any progress Obama could make may seem like old news, but for the international community, the message must be surreal. “What is going on in the United States?” they must wonder.


THE REST:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/0...ing-countries-to-ignore-obama-sound-familiar/
 

They are becoming a laughing stock.. I just roll my eyes... They are so transparent in their motives... Hate Obama... and go to WAR..
 

Frank Cole in a comment on the link above wrote:


“What is going on in the United States?”
You have a group of sociopaths elected to office through gerrymandering, voter suppression and corporate media propaganda who don't recognize this man of color, Barak Obama, as President of the United States of America. Bordering on a coup d'état, this cabal of neo-confederates, puppets of the Bircher Koch Brothers and minions of the military-industrial complex are trying to intimidate the rest of the world into believing Barak Obama has no authority to conduct presidential business that other Presidents have done that came before him. I say to these seditionist Republicans "go pound sand"!
 
One thing that the Republicans are talking about is the lack of using Congress to debate and approve thing before Obama just acts like a dictator or spoiled child and does them without the blessings of those who were elected to keep our government representing the people.

Those sound like good warnings to other countries as when Obama is gone it is possible for the then government to mostly just cancel all these things Obama has started without the blessings of Obama's Congresses. The Congresses of the future can modify or cancel. Something Obama will no longer be able to change.
 
My very first post!!!! Goody Goody Goody.
BobF please do me a favor,implore your representatives to start articles of impeachment! I cannot abide having a criminal for a President. Please sue Mr. Obama,you can do it as a citizen you know!
Why hasn't someone such as yourself done it already?
Maybe because he operates with in the frame work of the law,, something some republican lawmakers can't seem to grasp. Your Mr, Cotton to be precise along with his lackey senile McCain.
Please if you can find an impeachable offense charge him with it!
 
Bob, you have a very narrow view of the importance of allowing foreign contacts to be made through the executive branch of our government. Congress has no duties or even authority to get into the business of the Executive. Legislative duties are the sole area of responsibility of Congress. Never in our history has the congress undermined an American by directly contacting a foreign nation or group of nations. There are three branches of government, Executive, Legislative and Judicial. Congress is acting outside of it's area of influence. Do not attempt to justify congressional action such as this, as there is no justification possible.
 
AZ Jim said:
Bob, you have a very narrow view of the importance of allowing foreign contacts to be made through the executive branch of our government. Congress has no duties or even authority to get into the business of the Executive. Legislative duties are the sole area of responsibility of Congress. Never in our history has the congress undermined an American by directly contacting a foreign nation or group of nations. There are three branches of government, Executive, Legislative and Judicial. Congress is acting outside of it's area of influence. Do not attempt to justify congressional action such as this, as there is no justification possible.
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Jim, your response completely ignores that Obama is not following the way for him to get things done is through Congress debates and votes. He is not a dictator. Even with his ability to instantly declare war, then it must be finally approved by Congress or it all ends up a big nothing.

I would have to re read the Constitution to be sure what you say is true or not. Maybe it is out of our traditions for the Congress to speak to foreign nations, but I doubt that as we seem to have a lot of Congressional meetings and tours in foreign lands.
 
Executive orders is the way Obama has chosen to get his way without allowing those folks elected by the people any voice in saying yes or no. Those ways of doing business are possible but not at all the way our government is supposed to work. The people through their representatives are supposed to have some say in how our government works but for now, the Obama bunch is happy to take the rights of the people to the trash can and just do as they say only.

Only a year and a half till a new leader takes over this job. Whether it is a Democrat or Republican I hope they try to live within the bounds of our Constitution once again. Something our current leader does not want to do as he thinks only he knows what is best for the country and our status in the world.
 
Colbert King wonders whether we might already be over a very scary line.


If some red states were to openly defy the authority of President Obama in the exercise of his constitutional duties, would today’s Republican Congress side with him? Or would they honor the insurrection?
I wish it could be said with confidence that the legislative branch would oppose a rebellion against the executive branch of government. But I’m not so sure.


Last month, the Republican-led Arizona House of Representatives passed, on a 36-to-24 party-line vote, a bill sponsored by tea party Rep. Bob Thorpe (R-Flagstaff) that “prohibits this state or any of its political subdivisions from using any personnel or financial resources to enforce, administer or cooperate with an executive order issued by the President of the U.S. that has not been affirmed by a vote of Congress and signed into law as prescribed by the U.S. Constitution.” ...


The word “insurrection” does come to mind. Yet the resistance out West to federal authority has been received in virtual silence on Capitol Hill. It’s almost as if the GOP Congress wanted an uprising against the president.
 
BobF said:
Executive orders is the way Obama has chosen to get his way without allowing those folks elected by the people any voice in saying yes or no.
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He doesn't seem to have used executive orders as much as other presidents, however he is most criticized for them.


President Barack Obama - (2009-present) = 191 executiveorders

President George W. Bush - (2001-2009) = 291 executiveorders

President Bill Clinton - (1993-2001) = 364 executiveorders

President George H. W. Bush (1989-1993) = 166 executiveorders

President Ronald Reagan (1981-1989) = 381 executiveorders

President Jimmy Carter (1977-1981) = 320 executiveorders

President Gerald Ford (1974-1977) = 169 executiveorders

President Richard Nixon (1969-1974) = 346 executiveorders
 
Robusta said:
My very first post!!!! Goody Goody Goody.
BobF please do me a favor,implore your representatives to start articles of impeachment! I cannot abide having a criminal for a President. Please sue Mr. Obama,you can do it as a citizen you know!
Why hasn't someone such as yourself done it already?
Maybe because he operates with in the frame work of the law,, something some republican lawmakers can't seem to grasp. Your Mr, Cotton to be precise along with his lackey senile McCain.
Please if you can find an impeachable offense charge him with it!
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If you are from the US, do it yourself. I prefer to wait for the next year and a half and let the general public do their thing about who they want for President.
 
BobF, I made a commitment not to allow myself any arguments with you and others similarly inclined to spew Faux lies and distortions. I won't go back on that. I will say you apparently fail to understand the gravity of these situations. You have been confronted with accurate data from official sources which you ignore or attempt to double talk around. That being the case I see no need to further our communications. Go forth and enjoy life.
 
Well Jim, with no representations fo things you say I ignore or don't read that are real important, I have no idea what you might be talking of. I do challenge some of these posts as being biased or one sided and I even post contradicting posts to some that are claimed to be only thing possible. Recently I was posting from the Constitution and about Obama's ways of ignoring the Constitution and doing most of his work with Executive orders. He seems to get a lot done that way and has spent billions of dollars into our debt problems that way. Executive orders seems to work for Obama but the next President and Congress after he is gone can have a great time closing them down. They are not laws as would usually be if set up through congress would make them. So it is likely quite easy to just set them aside and do something much different without having to have a lot of long battles in Congress. So all you Obama fans enjoy what you have now as when Obama and his gang are gone, a lot will start to change back into the proper way the US is supposed to operate. Even if a Democrat, the correct way to operate may be important to them.
 
SeaBreeze said:
He doesn't seem to have used executive orders as much as other presidents, however he is most criticized for them.


President Barack Obama - (2009-present) = 191 executiveorders

President George W. Bush - (2001-2009) = 291 executiveorders

President Bill Clinton - (1993-2001) = 364 executiveorders

President George H. W. Bush (1989-1993) = 166 executiveorders

President Ronald Reagan (1981-1989) = 381 executiveorders

President Jimmy Carter (1977-1981) = 320 executiveorders

President Gerald Ford (1974-1977) = 169 executiveorders

President Richard Nixon (1969-1974) = 346 executiveorders
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Without reading each of these I would say that many executive orders might be just some simple things but not trying to change the 'laws' to avoid going through Congress. So the quantity alone means little. It is the intent that can be a problem.

And Obama still has a year and a half to go so those counts could change a lot by then.
 
AZ Jim said:
Frank Cole in a comment on the link above wrote:


“What is going on in the United States?”
You have a group of sociopaths elected to office through gerrymandering, voter suppression and corporate media propaganda who don't recognize this man of color, Barak Obama, as President of the United States of America. Bordering on a coup d'état, this cabal of neo-confederates, puppets of the Bircher Koch Brothers and minions of the military-industrial complex are trying to intimidate the rest of the world into believing Barak Obama has no authority to conduct presidential business that other Presidents have done that came before him. I say to these seditionist Republicans "go pound sand"!
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I see armed conflict in the U.S. as a possibility, in the not-too-distant future.
 
tnthomas said:
I see armed conflict in the U.S. as a possibility, in the not-too-distant future.
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Why do you see armed conflict in the US as a possibility?

I sure don't see that from where I view things. Only if somehow some foreign activity were to start it. Then all of us would be involved with putting it down. I believe even the anti war folks would recognize the threat and work to eliminate it.
 
Thank you SeaBreeze. Likely never to read all these links but it is nice to know where they are and how to read any that interest me. I have looked over the list down into the 'C' level and have opened a couple to the expanded title level but never into the long text level, if there really is such.
 

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