Another Piece Of The American Dream Gone.

[LindaE]

boys scouts...boys scouts

So you're saying that because a scout leader happens to be gay, he's eyeballing the young boys inappropriately?

See, that's the whole problem with this way of thinking. And for those who think this way, who REALLY has the dirty mind here??? It just kind of angers me that so many people, when thinking of homosexuals, automatically think about the sexual part of their being. They automatically think about something dirty. But being gay is about more than just sex. They're human beings who have the ability to fall in love with each other, just like we [straight] people do. It's not just about sex.

When a straight man says, "I just found a new girlfriend," people will say, "Cool, congrats, hope you guys fall in love and get married someday."

When a gay man says, "I just found a new boyfriend," the first thought many people have is yeah, so that means you enjoy bumping someone up the behind.

We're the ones with the dirty minds, not them.

And hey, what about all the GIRL scout leaders that are lesbians? I'm sure they're out there.

 

[SifuPhil]

You have to admit that that IS the one outstanding difference between homo- and heterosexuality, no? That there are different ways of expressing physical love? The mental / emotional love, of course, is the same.

So how is it considered "dirty" to mention it?

And yes, there probably ARE lesbian Girl Scout leaders.

 

[LindaE]

You have to admit that that IS the one outstanding difference between homo- and heterosexuality, no? That there are different ways of expressing physical love? The mental / emotional love, of course, is the same.

Yes, but the 'dirty' part is usually what people think of first, is my point.

So how is it considered "dirty" to mention it?

Well... because that's just the way some people think. Not everyone, of course, but you have to admit that humans have dirty minds, LOL

And yes, there probably ARE lesbian Girl Scout leaders.

But, naturally, they were never an issue. Which leads me to think that, when thinking of homosexuality, most people think of boy/boy, not girl/girl. Oh yeah, but then I have to remember that just about EVERY one of the men I've known in my entire 51 years of living have said they're turned on by watching two females. So I guess it's okay for two girls, just not two boys. Yeah, boys engaging in sexual behavior with each other, oh how horrid and awful!

 

[Debby]

Since when is homophobia a part of the American Dream?

I thought this was the American dream: American Dream, noun
- the ideal that EVERY US citizen should have an equal opportunity to achieve success and prosperity through hard work, determination and initiative. 'he could achieve the American Dream only by hard work'.

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  No mention of sex (of any sort) in there and my guess is that there are lots of LGBT people who work hard, have initiative and so on.[/COLOR]
  
  
  

 

[SifuPhil]

Yes, but the 'dirty' part is usually what people think of first, is my point.

But could that be because there ARE no other differences? People tend to focus on differences, not similarities, no matter what.

Well... because that's just the way some people think. Not everyone, of course, but you have to admit that humans have dirty minds, LOL

Oh, I know, I KNOW!

But, naturally, they were never an issue. Which leads me to think that, when thinking of homosexuality, most people think of boy/boy, not girl/girl. Oh yeah, but then I have to remember that just about EVERY one of the men I've known in my entire 51 years of living have said they're turned on by watching two females. So I guess it's okay for two girls, just not two boys. Yeah, boys engaging in sexual behavior with each other, oh how horrid and awful!

That IS a strange dichotomy, I'll admit ... maybe it's because men are "supposed" to be strong and manly while women are "supposed" to be soft and feminine?

It's very confusing - I'm going to make myself a cheeseburger and think about it.

 

[LindaE]

But could that be because there ARE no other differences? People tend to focus on differences, not similarities, no matter what.

Hmmm.... very good point.

Oh, I know, I KNOW!

I'm no exception

That IS a strange dichotomy, I'll admit ... maybe it's because men are "supposed" to be strong and manly while women are "supposed" to be soft and feminine?

It's very confusing - I'm going to make myself a cheeseburger and think about it.

Perfect solution

But yeah... I guess maybe it's because men are supposed to be manly. You know how it is, we females hug and kiss each other all the time and think nothing of it. But you wouldn't see two straight men giving each other a smooch when they meet for lunch, LOL