Anti-Asian racism in Georgia

He gave his lawyer his defense...a sex addiction.
So now he can go to a hospital instead of prison since he’s insane.
Crazy like a fox
 

If it's been so damn bad, why is it only making the news now? The media just loves this stuff so they crank it up.
I think you're looking at it the wrong way. The lack of news coverage is not an indication that the situation is not "so damn bad". You seem to be blaming "the media" for "cranking up" a minor issue when in fact the situation has been "so damn bad" for a very, very long time but the media hasn't been reporting it. Try to remember that the media is not a source of news at all. It merely makes reports from the source .... if they think it's worth it.
 

Yes, it's amazing how the presence of a gun can make anyone become a mass murderer.
Because I'm a gun owner, I have to fight my bloodthirsty urges constantly; it's only my extreme self control & astonishing willpower that stops me. That's what guns do to people.

:ROFLMAO:
Now we are talking gun control Let's be logical here. Let's face it, guns are readily available in the US so they can be used to defend their properties. Guns are more likely used to resolve domestic problems. People carry them in their cars so they can be use to resolve traffic disputes too. Obviously, the dead guy can't tell his side of the story. Finally, I am not against your rights to own guns. But, look at facts.
The trouble is...familiarity breeds contempt. Because guns are so easily available, people are rather cavalier with them. There have been several incidents when guns have been fired accidently, resulting in the deaths of innocents.
 
The trouble is...familiarity breeds contempt. Because guns are so easily available, people are rather cavalier with them. There have been several incidents when guns have been fired accidently, resulting in the deaths of innocents.
I'm assuming you don't have any gun knowledge. Just a FYI: Guns don't fire accidentally. Idiots fire guns accidentally. You may have heard during a court trial "The gun just went off while he was cleaning it." That's a defense attorney doing his job, which is to defend his client who intentionally committed murder or unintentionally committed murder while he was intoxicated & played with his gun & pulled the trigger without checking if the gun was loaded (again; an idiot).
And people don't usually admit to stupidity, so when they have a negligent firearm discharge, they'll blame the gun & say "It just went off due to a mechanical malfunction." (that one is often used by police officers when their carelessness--which I have witnessed firsthand--resulted in a tragedy)
If a gun's trigger is not pulled, a gun can't fire - any more than a car can start itself.
If a gun was capable of firing itself accidentally on its own, I wouldn't go near one.
And, think about this: No police officer would ever carry one.
 
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The trouble is...familiarity breeds contempt. Because guns are so easily available, people are rather cavalier with them. There have been several incidents when guns have been fired accidently, resulting in the deaths of innocents.
What most people seem to avoid admitting/understanding is that in the U.S. there is a hero-worshipping element to the vast majority of citizens. This might be due to an inferior educational system but is certainly embellished by the dog-eat-dog social structure of the country. Anyway, it is common knowledge that many try to overcome their inferiority complex by either the fist or by the gun. In the day to day scheme of life this means not only being intimidating but to also "stand your ground" in the face of intimidation ------ real or imagined. So there Joe Q. stands and he's being challenged. Is he going to do the sensible thing and be a "coward"? Pulling the trigger doesn't require much effort.
 
What most people seem to avoid admitting/understanding is that in the U.S. there is a hero-worshipping element to the vast majority of citizens. This might be due to an inferior educational system but is certainly embellished by the dog-eat-dog social structure of the country. Anyway, it is common knowledge that many try to overcome their inferiority complex by either the fist or by the gun. In the day to day scheme of life this means not only being intimidating but to also "stand your ground" in the face of intimidation ------ real or imagined. So there Joe Q. stands and he's being challenged. Is he going to do the sensible thing and be a "coward"? Pulling the trigger doesn't require much effort.
Correct! Zimmerman, for example, would never have confronted Trayvon Martin without a gun.
 
What most people seem to avoid admitting/understanding is that in the U.S. there is a hero-worshipping element to the vast majority of citizens. This might be due to an inferior educational system but is certainly embellished by the dog-eat-dog social structure of the country. Anyway, it is common knowledge that many try to overcome their inferiority complex by either the fist or by the gun. In the day to day scheme of life this means not only being intimidating but to also "stand your ground" in the face of intimidation ------ real or imagined. So there Joe Q. stands and he's being challenged. Is he going to do the sensible thing and be a "coward"? Pulling the trigger doesn't require much effort.
Perhaps the problem isn't so much the "hero-worshipping" but the hero deficiency we have in our country today. We're deprived of something so many of us crave, and I'd have to put myself in that category.

I find myself searching for real-life heroes in contemporary authors, musicians, politicians, and intellectuals, and consistently come up short. Repeatedly, I find myself reverting back to the '60s and '70s to find exemplars of exceptionalism since all we seem to have in our contemporary, hi-tech society are models of mediocrity that cater to the attention impaired, myopic, instant gratification seeking, social media centered, generations X, Y, and Z.

The only thing we seem to be exceptional at this days is killing our fellow man. We've gotten pretty good at that. And I guess they would be heroes to some in a perverted sense, but that's just an reflection of how sick society has become.
 
What about the toddler sitting in the shopping cart at Walmart? Took his Mom's gun out of her handbag and shot her?
Exactly. the child pulled the trigger - just as any toddler would do with any gun, thinking it's a toy gun. The gun didn't fire itself.
The mom was irresponsible for making a loaded gun accessible to a child. Many ignorant parents do that - with guns, matches, cleaning chemicals & unsecured swimming pools. How is a parent's stupidity the fault of an inanimate object that has no will of its own??
 
Correct! Zimmerman, for example, would never have confronted Trayvon Martin without a gun.
Zimmerman is an idiot who had no business confronting Martin at all. But Martin should not have put his hands on Zimmerman; by doing so, he gave Zimmerman the right to self defense. All Martin had to do was tell Zimmerman to "F--- off."
 
Perhaps the problem isn't so much the "hero-worshipping" but the hero deficiency we have in our country today. We're deprived of something so many of us crave, and I'd have to put myself in that category.

I find myself searching for real-life heroes in contemporary authors, musicians, politicians, and intellectuals, and consistently come up short. Repeatedly, I find myself reverting back to the '60s and '70s to find exemplars of exceptionalism since all we seem to have in our contemporary, hi-tech society are models of mediocrity that cater to the attention impaired, myopic, instant gratification seeking, social media centered, generations X, Y, and Z.

The only thing we seem to be exceptional at this days is killing our fellow man. We've gotten pretty good at that. And I guess they would be heroes to some in a perverted sense, but that's just an reflection of how sick society has become.
I understand your first part but I don't agree. The U.S. does have heroes today such as Manning and Snowden (my personal choices) but the problem, and I am sure you are aware, is in what sort of character the U.S. fosters as a heroic role model. More often than not it's the guy with the gun and guys like Manning and Snowden are labelled villains. The reasons for this discrepancy are being smoke-screened and we can talk about that for a very long time.
 
FYI: Guns don't fire accidentally.
True.
USA perpetuates hate, poverty and violence. There is substantial income inequality and the gap widens annually. This country is one of the most violent in the world when it comes to gun deaths.
Also true.

So, here we have "guns that don't fire accidentally" in the hands of a population that "perpetuates hate, poverty and violence" and, therefore, is "one of the most violent in the world when it comes to gun deaths".

What's the conclusion? Maybe those "guns that don't fire accidentally" are in the hands of a population that fire them intentionally. I suggest the U.S. confiscates its guns and give them to someone whose environment does not "perpetuate hate, poverty and violence". Maybe then those poor guns can rest in peace.
 
What most people seem to avoid admitting/understanding is that in the U.S. there is a hero-worshipping element to the vast majority of citizens. This might be due to an inferior educational system but is certainly embellished by the dog-eat-dog social structure of the country. Anyway, it is common knowledge that many try to overcome their inferiority complex by either the fist or by the gun. In the day to day scheme of life this means not only being intimidating but to also "stand your ground" in the face of intimidation ------ real or imagined. So there Joe Q. stands and he's being challenged. Is he going to do the sensible thing and be a "coward"? Pulling the trigger doesn't require much effort.
That's a very interesting theory and I'm sure you're right. It does explain a lot of the anti-social behaviour we all have to endure. There is also 'peer pressure', young men wanting to appear 'macho' in front of their friends.
I fear there is also a feeling of hopelessness in our society. Young people are not optimistic about the future.
As well as being poorly educated, young people today are not getting the discipline they need. Parents think they are doing what is best for the child by letting it develop naturally, without guidance and discipline. They don't seem to realise that children actually need rules and limitations.
 
What about the toddler sitting in the shopping cart at Walmart? Took his Mom's gun out of her handbag and shot her?
This is one of the incidents I was referring to...the other happened in a car, when a child picked up a gun. Guns have become so commonplace that people are careless with them.
Does a woman really feel so threatened in America that she carries a loaded gun while shopping in a supermarket?
 
I'm assuming you don't have any gun knowledge. Just a FYI: Guns don't fire accidentally. Idiots fire guns accidentally. You may have heard during a court trial "The gun just went off while he was cleaning it." That's a defense attorney doing his job, which is to defend his client who intentionally committed murder or unintentionally committed murder while he was intoxicated & played with his gun & pulled the trigger without checking if the gun was loaded (again; an idiot).
And people don't usually admit to stupidity, so when they have a negligent firearm discharge, they'll blame the gun & say "It just went off due to a mechanical malfunction." (that one is often used by police officers when their carelessness--which I have witnessed firsthand--resulted in a tragedy)
If a gun's trigger is not pulled, a gun can't fire - any more than a car can start itself.
If a gun was capable of firing itself accidentally on its own, I wouldn't go near one.
And, think about this: No police officer would ever carry one.
Just read my post again, clever clogs. I didn't say the guns fired accidently, I said they were fired accidently. In other words, someone fired them, they didn't go off by themselves.
 
That's a very interesting theory and I'm sure you're right. It does explain a lot of the anti-social behaviour we all have to endure. There is also 'peer pressure', young men wanting to appear 'macho' in front of their friends.
I fear there is also a feeling of hopelessness in our society. Young people are not optimistic about the future.
As well as being poorly educated, young people today are not getting the discipline they need. Parents think they are doing what is best for the child by letting it develop naturally, without guidance and discipline. They don't seem to realise that children actually need rules and limitations.
I agree with you 1,000% and it fits perfectly with what we're discussing. The 'peer pressure' you're talking about is 'to appear macho in front of their friends' because that's the hero worship indoctrination (and respect through fear) in action. If the population thought of kindness and generosity as a higher priority then peer pressure would reflect that instead. It would be 'cool' to be seen as generous and tolerant. It seems easy to fix but it isn't. Social inequality on so many different levels means that nobody is going to give you a break because everyone is trying to keep their head above water.
 
I agree with you 1,000% and it fits perfectly with what we're discussing. The 'peer pressure' you're talking about is 'to appear macho in front of their friends' because that's the hero worship indoctrination (and respect through fear) in action. If the population thought of kindness and generosity as a higher priority then peer pressure would reflect that instead. It would be 'cool' to be seen as generous and tolerant. It seems easy to fix but it isn't. Social inequality on so many different levels means that nobody is going to give you a break because everyone is trying to keep their head above water.
Personally, I don't think that social inequality has anything to do with it. There seems to be an assumption that wealthy people have had everything handed to them on a plate. That is the case with inherited wealth, but there is a huge difference in the talents and intellect people have. If someone has worked hard at school and passed exams, it's only fair that they should reap their reward by having a well-paid position. They then employ those who are less well qualified.
This once again brings us back to the education system. All children should have the opportunity to develop any talents they have. I'm not familiar with the American system, but I know that British standards have dropped. It seems hard to believe but there are children leaving school who are illiterate! When I was at school, any child having difficulties was given extra tuition. It would seem that these children are just cast aside, which is an appalling attitude.
These young teenagers are leaving school let down by the system, and starting their adult lives at a distinct disadvantage.
 
Personally, I don't think that social inequality has anything to do with it. There seems to be an assumption that wealthy people have had everything handed to them on a plate. That is the case with inherited wealth, but there is a huge difference in the talents and intellect people have. If someone has worked hard at school and passed exams, it's only fair that they should reap their reward by having a well-paid position. They then employ those who are less well qualified.
This once again brings us back to the education system. All children should have the opportunity to develop any talents they have. I'm not familiar with the American system, but I know that British standards have dropped. It seems hard to believe but there are children leaving school who are illiterate! When I was at school, any child having difficulties was given extra tuition. It would seem that these children are just cast aside, which is an appalling attitude.
These young teenagers are leaving school let down by the system, and starting their adult lives at a distinct disadvantage.
I agree.

"Now, some say it is unfair to hold disadvantaged children to rigorous standards. I say it is discrimination to require anything less-the soft bigotry of low expectations." - George W. Bush
 
Anti-racism in Georgia........
Asian hate crimes have risen significantly in the U.S. since the Coronavirus came to the U.S. per FBI reports. It’s absolutely sad that this has/is happening. Just like after 9-11 when many people took out their frustrations and anger on people from the Mideast, a lot of people are now tormenting, or worse, people of Asian descent.

What happened in Atlanta has nothing to do with the virus or with the people inside being Asians. The young man suffers an addiction and has been treated for it for the last few years, including being in rehab. The news media decided it was a hate crime because the APD stated they were going to investigate the incident to find out if a hate crime occurred. The APD has since backed off that allegation until their investigation is completed. This is what happens when people jump to conclusions.
 
Personally, I don't think that social inequality has anything to do with it. There seems to be an assumption that wealthy people have had everything handed to them on a plate. That is the case with inherited wealth, but there is a huge difference in the talents and intellect people have. If someone has worked hard at school and passed exams, it's only fair that they should reap their reward by having a well-paid position. They then employ those who are less well qualified.
This once again brings us back to the education system. All children should have the opportunity to develop any talents they have. I'm not familiar with the American system, but I know that British standards have dropped. It seems hard to believe but there are children leaving school who are illiterate! When I was at school, any child having difficulties was given extra tuition. It would seem that these children are just cast aside, which is an appalling attitude.
These young teenagers are leaving school let down by the system, and starting their adult lives at a distinct disadvantage.
It doesn't matter how talented, intelligent, or hard-working you are. Starting from the top down is the wrong way to go if there isn't enough left for those down below. The bottom end ought to be guaranteed a manageable standard and then the top end can be as opulent as they like. The basis of this dialogue is centered round Nosy Bee-54's statement,

"USA perpetuates hate, poverty and violence. There is substantial income inequality and the gap widens annually. This country is one of the most violent in the world when it comes to gun deaths."
 
911, your first paragraph makes absolute sense. Your second paragraph is questionable, in view of the fact that every single victim was Asian. Could that have just been a coincidence? The guy suffers a sex addiction and decides to shoot a whole bunch of people (although I don't really see what the addiction and the shooting have to do with each other, especially since he was also shooting at men), and they just all happened to turn out to be Asians? Even though he traveled many miles to get from one "spa" to another? So it couldn't be blamed on just being in an Asian neighborhood?

Clearly, he was aiming at a particular category of victim. Why were all of them Asians? Certainly, the "hate crime" element has to at least be investigated.
 


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