And what a shame that it has become political. People are just NUTS!
Anti Maskers Losing Their Minds
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AnnieA
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Saying "it's political" doesn't mean I enjoy wearing masks. I hate them as much as anyone else. When I'm walking alone outside, I usually drop it below my chin, so I can breathe for a while until the next person comes along, then it goes back up. And yes, it seems even worse in hot weather.
But I think all the violence, as described in the OP, and the polarized arguing and fighting about it, are politically driven. We are all uncomfortable in masks. But who are the people snarling, marching, wearing t-shirts about it, etc.? Surely you don't think we are divided along lines of people who find masks uncomfortable, and people who love wearing them? The groups of anti-mask marchers are very strongly on the right side of the political spectrum. I have never seen this country so clearly divided along political lines.
By now, most of us are wearing the damn things, partly by government mandate. But when the mask thing first started, who were the people with, and who were without? You could almost stick a label on most people by whether they were wearing a mask.
But I think all the violence, as described in the OP, and the polarized arguing and fighting about it, are politically driven. We are all uncomfortable in masks. But who are the people snarling, marching, wearing t-shirts about it, etc.? Surely you don't think we are divided along lines of people who find masks uncomfortable, and people who love wearing them? The groups of anti-mask marchers are very strongly on the right side of the political spectrum. I have never seen this country so clearly divided along political lines.
By now, most of us are wearing the damn things, partly by government mandate. But when the mask thing first started, who were the people with, and who were without? You could almost stick a label on most people by whether they were wearing a mask.
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What you see portrayed on the media isn't universal. The generalizations you see in the media are the exact opposite from what I see in real life. One of my contract facilities is in the second reddest county in my state and the area has been great about mask wearing from the start. The major population center of the county is near the top of the heap socioeconomically (including education and has a median household income of $100,000 plus), so it may have to do with intelligence.
My home county is rural, purplish-red with a median household income of $37,000 and there's been resistance to mask wearing from Democrats and Republicans alike. Thank God masks were recently mandated here
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DaveA
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I wonder if the people in London, during WWII kept their lights on during official blackouts? Were they being deprived of their "rights"? Did their Prime Minister and national government leave it up to individual cities and counties to make their own decisions?
And some some people must have suffered, even fallen and injured themselves while navigating their darkened home. There were risks involved. And after all, the bomb(s) wasn't likely to land on their home, most likely someone else's and "to hell with them", it all about me".
That's about where the U.S. stands today, from our leader on down. If I happen to be infected and give out a maskless cough on the old lady next to me, tough for her. It's every man for himself and to hell with MY effect on the rest.
And currently, here we are. Unless we listen to good solid medical and scientific information and leave the political leadership to take care of other things,, nature will take it's course. It'll fade away someday but the lives needlessly lost through political bickering and electioneering will have cost many, many lives that could have been saved using safe medical practices.
Do people who break a leg , have a heart attack, pneumonia, or such, call the doc or turn on FOX, ABC, CBS, or their daily radio talk show host, to find out how best to handle their illness. Evidently some do, the way they're reacting to this pandemic?
And some some people must have suffered, even fallen and injured themselves while navigating their darkened home. There were risks involved. And after all, the bomb(s) wasn't likely to land on their home, most likely someone else's and "to hell with them", it all about me".
That's about where the U.S. stands today, from our leader on down. If I happen to be infected and give out a maskless cough on the old lady next to me, tough for her. It's every man for himself and to hell with MY effect on the rest.
And currently, here we are. Unless we listen to good solid medical and scientific information and leave the political leadership to take care of other things,, nature will take it's course. It'll fade away someday but the lives needlessly lost through political bickering and electioneering will have cost many, many lives that could have been saved using safe medical practices.
Do people who break a leg , have a heart attack, pneumonia, or such, call the doc or turn on FOX, ABC, CBS, or their daily radio talk show host, to find out how best to handle their illness. Evidently some do, the way they're reacting to this pandemic?
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AnnieA
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Many people in the UK are not doing any better than the US with masks. Check out recent large gathering pics as well as Hyde Park protests. A national mandate goes into effect there this week. Hope it goes well.
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But that would be wrong and your conclusion would be erroneous because I can't wear a mask for a medical reason, yet politically I understand those who do wear them and would not argue with them.
Because of my condition, I never think politics when I see a maskless person. I'm sorry for those who do. I have an inoperable condition in my sinuses so if I wear a face covering, I'll instantly overheat and faint. I guess when I see a maskless person, I think medical condition not politics and I could be wrong too.
When I read this I wanted to shout, "AMEN!"
Toddlers are the center of their own world. Everything is about them and their needs. They can be charming, amusing and exasperating.
However, n adult who's as entitled and self-centered as a 4 year old is none of those things. If it's not about masks, it's something else. Always something.
I'm tired of hearing people yelling about their constitutional right not to wear a mask. Do they also have a constitutional right to endanger other people? My dad used to say, "Your rights end where my nose begins."
I don't know. Maybe I'm just cranky because the temperature is in the high 90s and my AC isn't working that well and there's a 2 week wait for repair service. But I find myself shouting at the TV when the anti-mask brigade comes on...
StarSong
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Thank you for the reminder that some people do have good medical reasons to not wear masks.
MarciKS
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So what happens when you go shopping? Do you have to have a note stating your condition? If it says no mask no shop...are you still allowed in? Or are you forced to stay home & rely on deliveries?
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It's interesting because I watched a video on another forum last night where these 2 docs wore their masks and claim the O2 saturation doesn't change in them. One of them had 6 on. However...they were young & fit & sitting. Not running around doing anything.
I can attest to the fact that they do have an effect on a person's O2 sat because for the past 2 months mine has been between 89 & 91 with little relief from medication. As opposed to relief with an O2 sat of 95-96 as a norm. I stayed in all weekend & wore my new bandana mask yesterday. In just 3 days & with that new mask my O2 sat was steady at 94 last night.
I'll see if I can get you a link tonight or find the video but right now I gotta go get ready for work.
I can attest to the fact that they do have an effect on a person's O2 sat because for the past 2 months mine has been between 89 & 91 with little relief from medication. As opposed to relief with an O2 sat of 95-96 as a norm. I stayed in all weekend & wore my new bandana mask yesterday. In just 3 days & with that new mask my O2 sat was steady at 94 last night.
I'll see if I can get you a link tonight or find the video but right now I gotta go get ready for work.
No. In my state I cannot shop at all, period, since April. If I drive to another state I can shop as the rules differ from state to state. But it's been getting so hot & humid here the past month and a half, I quit going to other states to shop as it takes a long time and I have a really bad sunburn from driving friends/or family to the store to shop for me while I sit in the car & wait or drive for hours. Then I treat them to lunch at my place.
MarciKS
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At least someone is there to help you. I can't imagine going to another state to shop. And might I add thankyou for not marching into the stores without a mask and waving a gun.
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Ok here's that link to the video I talked about earlier...
Now keep in mind that most people are moving around while masked up. And I find it really hard to believe that the one dr was able to put on 6 of those masks & still breathe let alone maintain 99 O2 Sat.
Now keep in mind that most people are moving around while masked up. And I find it really hard to believe that the one dr was able to put on 6 of those masks & still breathe let alone maintain 99 O2 Sat.
Are the buildings not air conditioned? It's hot here too. I put my mask on 20 seconds before entering the store. Heck, most of them are quite chilly. Take it off 3 steps outside. Don't see the problem
I'm sorry to hear about your medical condition, chic. That must be a drag.
However, you are in a very small minority. The overwhelming number of angry (or flippant) non-mask wearers are refusing to wear masks to make some kind of political point. It has nothing to do with medical problems, probably for at least 99% of them.
In my building, when the whole mask thing started, all the people I saw with no masks on were those that I knew were on the conservative end of the spectrum. When the building management mandated that everybody wear a mask outside of their home, they started wearing them. So there was no medical condition.
This is not exactly an original observation; the mask/no mask debate has been in the news for months now. I haven't seen any reference to medical conditions in any of the news articles about this.
I'm curious: what if you tested positive for the virus? Would you go out without a mask and risk infecting everyone you came near? Probably not; you'd just stay home, right?
An intelligent person would become informed about the unreliability of the test & wouldn't bother getting it (as some honest doctors have suggested.)
Like in the movie, "One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest," they are mentally defective.
I remember watching the old police comedy show, "Barney Miller." In one of the episodes, the late Ron Glass, who played Sgt. Harris on the show, told Barney he was running a prisoner down to the "Cookie Farm, which he was referring to Bellevue and is a mental hospital in NYC.
JaniceM
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I hear a lot of online buzz especially from the 30-and-younger-set who maintain that the government can't dictate what they can and can't do with their own bodies. Well, think of other people for a change. What is all this self-entitlement? Reminds me of the 60s potheads yelling about the same thing - what I can do with my own body and being down on the establishment. If everyone did what they wanted, there would be anarchy. Rules are made for the good of the people - that's why there are LAWS.
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JaniceM
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Yup, there it is- the most obnoxious members of 'the Me Generation' and their never-ending influence.
Unfortunately, for some, anarchy IS the goal.
Just read that local grocery store chain will be offering masks to customers who come in, free of charge... but they'll only 'request' customers wear them, not 'require' it.
MarciKS
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Some of them trying to make it like the signs no shirt...no shoes...no masks...no service. Which is what they need to do.
Carymeaway
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I have read plenty of evidence the containrs are disinformation.