Anyone else who grew up with Madonna? Anyone else think she is just ridiculous these days?

Sorry but I sure can't relate to this type of "entertainment." I watched the 1st video and it's rather stupid. She dresses like some Nazi or whatever and the constant shouting from the crowd tells me that there are a lot of "low lives" in the audience.

If you ask me, I wouldn't go and see her perform for free. I get the feeling that she might be stoned on drugs. Definitely, no talent that I can see. Give me Hank Williams, Lefty Frizzell, Johnny Cash and Marty Robbins anytime but PLEASE don't make suffer watching this "wanta-be" singer.
 

Packerjohn said:
Sorry but I sure can't relate to this type of "entertainment." I watched the 1st video and it's rather stupid. She dresses like some Nazi or whatever and the constant shouting from the crowd tells me that there are a lot of "low lives" in the audience.

If you ask me, I wouldn't go and see her perform for free. I get the feeling that she might be stoned on drugs. Definitely, no talent that I can see. Give me Hank Williams, Lefty Frizzell, Johnny Cash and Marty Robbins anytime but PLEASE don't make suffer watching this "wanta-be" singer.
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I understand you point but Lefty Frizzell, Johnny Cash and Hank Williams were often under the influence of drugs or alcohol when they performed.
 
Anyone else who grew up with Madonna? Anyone else think she is just ridiculous these days?
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Actually my kids grow up with Madonna, my ex did a good job of intimidating my daughters to NOT try to emulate her.

...I don't know what she's doing these days. TBH she's quite talented, and I do like some of her work from back in the day.
 
Packerjohn said:
Sorry but I sure can't relate to this type of "entertainment." I watched the 1st video and it's rather stupid. She dresses like some Nazi or whatever and the constant shouting from the crowd tells me that there are a lot of "low lives" in the audience.

If you ask me, I wouldn't go and see her perform for free. I get the feeling that she might be stoned on drugs. Definitely, no talent that I can see. Give me Hank Williams, Lefty Frizzell, Johnny Cash and Marty Robbins anytime but PLEASE don't make suffer watching this "wanta-be" singer.
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Give me the same singers but add Loretta, Conway and Hank, Jr.
 
Nathan said:
Actually my kids grow up with Madonna, my ex did a good job of intimidating my daughters to NOT try to emulate her.

...I don't know what she's doing these days. TBH she's quite talented, and I do like some of her work from back in the day.
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A friend of mine on another forum refers to that as her "normal years." LOL!
I like a lot of her music but after a while she started getting too strange for me.
 
MarciKS said:
I just got done reading an article that stated her children are concerned about her and her fans think she looks terrible. She's also dating a 27 yr old. She's 63.
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I say more power to her! She prefers an energized young man instead of some over-the-hill Boomer. Lots of men trade in their aging wives/girlfriends for an appealing young woman and no one bats an eye.

I have never seen her movies or listen to her music. However, I think it's good that she is doing what she wants to do.
 
Oh, dear. I was never a fan of Madonna, but I have nothing against her. She'd look a lot better if she'd never had cosmetic procedures. As far as performing goes, doing the same shtick as you did in your twenties doesn't work well when you're in your sixties. Being an entertainer and growing old in the public eye is difficult for many of them, and they'll go to extreme lengths to try to maintain a youthful "image". There's a lot to be said for growing old gracefully. This isn't it.

This is it. Rita Moreno at 89 years old. A timeless classic. (y)
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And maybe it's just me but I like to see them age with me. I like to see how they turn out. It seems more normal. I appreciate the performers and stars that choose to age normally allow their fans to continue to support them without all that cosmetic crap.
 
feywon said:
Understand, but maybe because i often used TV/Movies/Celebrity images and antics to segue into meaningful discussions with my kids about human behavior i'm now interested in such discussions with my peers, my age cohorts.

How people react to, make judgements about both fictional characters and celebrity personas can tell us a lot about the person who is speaking/writing. In some ways celebs, especially 'outrageous' ones are living Rorschach tests. And people's responses are usually more interesting to me than the celeb themselves.
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Being a people observer is interesting, as long as what is thought is limited to a matter of opinion. For instance, I read that reading history from long ago can be confusing when considering the writers, often the church supposedly, were tilted due to how much was donated by a particular king, etc. Even with good intentions, if a person with more than just people observer interest gets it wrong and writes or says in such a way that misrepresents someone in a damaging way, that is slander if you think about it.
 
Patricia said:
Being a people observer is interesting, as long as what is thought is limited to a matter of opinion. For instance, I read that reading history from long ago can be confusing when considering the writers, often the church supposedly, were tilted due to how much was donated by a particular king, etc. Even with good intentions, if a person with more than just people observer interest gets it wrong and writes or says in such a way that misrepresents someone in a damaging way, that is slander if you think about it.
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Another problem with history is that official versions are often written by the victors in conflicts, usually those with the more powerful weapons. They have a vested (and ego driven) interest in portraying the vanquished as barbaric primitive savages, (but also as very strong and difficult to subdue) to make their 'success' more admirable. The factual histories of some less noble victories are conveniently left out of curriculums.

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For me it is not about making pronouncements about people to others or about any one person. It is about noting the ways people are alike and the ways people differ-- for my own understanding. My sense of being different, an outsider began much earlier than the familiar angst and alienation some begin feeling with puberty and thru teens. It began before i even went to school.

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Our members with legal knowledge can correct me if I'm wrong, but i don't think it is slander unless you label a specific person pejoratively, and do not make clear that it is opinion--how you think/feel about them.
 
feywon said:
Another problem with history is that official versions are often written by the victors in conflicts, usually those with the more powerful weapons. They have a vested (and ego driven) interest in portraying the vanquished as barbaric primitive savages, (but also as very strong and difficult to subdue) to make their 'success' more admirable. The factual histories of some less noble victories are conveniently left out of curriculums.

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For me it is not about making pronouncements about people to others or about any one person. It is about noting the ways people are alike and the ways people differ-- for my own understanding. My sense of being different, an outsider began much earlier than the familiar angst and alienation some begin feeling with puberty and thru teens. It began before i even went to school.

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Our members with legal knowledge can correct me if I'm wrong, but i don't think it is slander unless you label a specific person pejoratively, and do not make clear that it is opinion--how you think/feel about them.
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Oh, that thought mostly resulted from a discussion on another thread about freedom of speech and slander, etc. Just moving from thread to thread.
 
feywon said:
I preferred her acting to her music, tho i thought some of the latter was good.


Suspect she's having difficulty dealing with realities of aging, not just appearance, but how your body moves, functions. Most humans do, but can you imagine having to do it with millions watching, with papparazi stalking you to catch you looking bad?

I often wonder how Marilyn Monroe would have dealt with being a 60 something. She was smarter than she was given credit for, so maybe if she could have gotten past her traumatic issues (childhood abuse survivor), she might of embraced it. Some of the most beautiful movie stars from earlier decades did. Dancers in particular have lifetime of good nutritional and exercise habits to help them maintain health as skin wrinkles and hair greys.

Interestingly, to my eyes at least, the performers who have
aged best were those who stayed active phsyically and mentally, and didn't fight playing their age. Think Ann Margaret and Sophia Loren in Grumpier Old Men.
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Very good point indeed, I would hate to have the eyes of the world on me.
 
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