Anyone ever get a feeling the virus is a hoax?

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Just curious on your thoughts about this....I'm getting ready to read different articles on the net to see if they make any sense at all.....
some are dreamers, irrational thinkers and scammers who are posting these, but some are intelligent news folks.....but is there any truth to these rumors without discussing political angles to this?
Will let you know my opinions soon.
 

PopsnTuff said:
Just curious on your thoughts about this....I'm getting ready to read different articles on the net to see if they make any sense at all.....
some are dreamers, irrational thinkers and scammers who are posting these, but some are intelligent news folks.....but is there any truth to these rumors without discussing political angles to this?
Will let you know my opinions soon.
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ok...let's just ask one question... if the virus is a ''hoax''... what are people dying of in their literal thousands all at once basically , and with many top doctors and consultants dying of the same thing, and in so many countries at the same time... ?...

Not arguing... just saying, something to think about when people are shouting about it being a Hoax... ...I too have read and digested loads about this, and the fact that it definitely exists, there's no argument about that, we have the dead bodies to prove it.. however all the arguments seem to be what has actually caused it... the latest being bombarded by 5g radio waves..
 
I have some doubts about the "hype" behind some of the complaints, & claims. I am disappointed in the many that have "politicized" something so serious as this, for what they see as political gain. To me these concerns are every-bit as dangerous as the virus itself.
 

Yes, I believe it is real.

I really don't believe that all of the people around the world that have been reported dead are hiding somewhere waiting to jump out and yell surprise!

We may find that it could have been handled differently/more effectively to minimize the impact on the global economy but I definitely believe that it is something that needed to be taken very seriously.

I also believe that we should continue to take it seriously until a TNT vaccine is available.

I'm very interested to hear what you learn as you sort through the various articles please keep us posted.
 
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Very good posts above....but is it possible that all our info is coming from what the govt and media decide to show us in the way of tv news or online news photos, statistics, etc. with us never actually knowing or seeing someone pass on from the virus?
Just food for thought on this.....
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...but both my husband and I had Covid-19 at the end of March beginning of April.... we survived it, me sooner than him, I was poorly for a week, but just bed ridden for 36 hours ,... he was poorly for 16 days (bed ridden for 14 days and delirious with it) ... his work colleague a super-fit guy, who runs 5 miles every single morning and evening, (both of them are in their 50's) went down with it at the same time for 14 days feeling like he was going to die, no strength barely able to breathe.. (no underlying conditions in either one of the guys )... and although none of have been tested for it, our doctors have told us given all the symptoms that we indeed had what they are calling Covid-19

Just last week , another colleagues' father died of the disease..they're calling the cause Covid-19.. again no underlying conditions but in his 70's with slight dementia ...

.....further more, 2 weeks ago a family friend ( my daughters' friends' husband in actuality ) a very fit strong man, no underlying conditions, a CEO of 3 Companies, went into hospital to get limb surgery, and caught the disease while in there.... He was in his early 70's..they asked his wife and him if they would agree to no Resuscitation .. they absolutely did not agree, and had it written on his medical papers.., but the consultant actually screamed at them, saying things like, are you being ridiculous , do you know how hard it would be to get well again if we have to resuscitate you , and many more things in complete unnecessary anger,...a man who'd just gone in for limb surgery on his toes, and caught the diseases in the hospital was being screamed at by a consultant to get him to agree to no resuscitation, ... ..but still our friend and his wife stuck to their guns and said they wanted resuscitation to take place if it were needed...


A day later the husband died ( this was just 2 weeks ago.. ) ..and when his wife got hold of his medical records that very next day...right across the top written by that very consultant...was DNR>>in huge Capitals ...... she was and is devastated, however, this isn't the end as far as she's concerned she has the finances and the status to fight to prove that this consultant and this particular hospital were seriously negligent and disingenuous at best.. ,...and she's going to do that very thing... , The point is that in this very short time, it seems that many people who are going into hospitals and who are of a certain age, and have any kind of respitory illness, are either being incubated for a Virus which in fact makes viral infections within the lungs much worse (incubation is for bacteria , pneumonia etc) and possibly causing the deaths...or they're being allowed to die with Do Not Resuscitate written across their medical notes....

Further this has also been told by several consultants that in this country and in the USA ... they've had patients who have died from a lung disease, be it pneumonia, or lung cancer orr anything similar, and they've signed off the death certificates personally , giving he reason for the death , only to discover very quickly that the death certificates have been altered to say the cause of death was Covid-19... when in fact these doctors knew for a fact it was no such thing

So with all due respect, there's many of us out here who have been victims, and or have known people who have died from this disease whatever the real cause ....
 
I don't think it's a hoax. But beyond that, it's hard to know what to believe. I alternate being scared and being bored with it all. No question it's serious. The worst part is that some people can have it and not know it or have mild symptoms. Some people wind up in intensive care. And some die. Statistics are all over the lot, so I'm thinking who really knows? I hate this. I have always hate the not knowing.
 
I agree it is for real and people, a lot of people are dying. No question about it, why are they dying, something is killing them. Are cures killing them? Possible, who knows what is wrong or right treatment until it is found and there are many people looking for that. Do I know anyone that has it, no. Do I know anyone that knows anyone that does, no.
There are some things that need to be found out, did nature put this out. NO, I don't think so. Man did this in my opinion, it is meant to develop change to be difficult to kill. To destroy most of the industry, commerce on the planet in a few months, it took a great deal of time , money and people. Who are they?
 
It is real. In Australia we have the cruise ship The Ruby Princess for evidence. COVID 19 was on that ship and it spread to passengers and crew alike. Because of bureaucratic bungling followed by much blame shifting, the passengers were allowed to disembark in Sydney without even minimal screening. They carried the virus with them when they flew home to their various destinations in other states. One third of all COVID 19 deaths in Australia are linked to the Ruby Princess either directly or from contact with infected passengers. The ship is still offshore near a naval base with crew aboard. Some have had the disease and have recovered but new cases are being brought ashore for medical treatment. Only when there are no new cases for several weeks will the ship be able to sail away and let the crew return to their homes.

Hubby and I dodged a bullet late last year. We took a cruise on the Ruby Princess in December.
 
I've got my own "conspiracy" theory about this virus. I think it is Man Made and part of an ongoing program in China to develop a means of biological warfare. However, due to some human error or accident, it escaped the laboratory in Wuhan and spread quickly before the Chinese government realized how successful their research was. With their authoritarian regime, they have been more successful in controlling the damage than most other "free" nations.

Just how long it takes to bring this epidemic under control, and what the long term effects will be on global health, is anyone's guess.

That's my 2 cents, and unless there is full cooperation from the Chinese government, I doubt we will ever know the full truth.
 
No I don’t think it’s a hoax at all. That would be one incredibly good hoax to pull off. More than half the residents in nursing homes quickly passing away and dying while all the nurses and personal support workers get sick caring for them knowing they could be next yet show up and continue anyway. Courage & compassion beyond belief.

NYC had so many people dying , some who nobody wanted to claim so they dug a huge cemetery to bury them in. Nurses, doctors, volunteers, preachers, teachers, students, people young and old dropping like flies. It’s so bad that countries have a lock down to try and prevent it from spreading and for good reason.

Part of the problem is that people don’t take this seriously so more people are dying because of it. There’s NO WAY this is a hoax. These people REALLY DIED. They aren’t ever going to wake up again. People really are putting their lives at risk trying to save them. Hospitals are getting so full their halls are filled with patients.

I can understand the reasoning behind not wanting to believe this is real. Most of us wish we could wake up tomorrow and discover it was all just a bad dream, but it isn’t and if you look throughout history, we’ve been plagued by other viruses which did significant damage. It’s real.
 
So sorry for all the emotional and physical pain you and your hubby have gone thru @hollydolly....I know it was real and then the passing on of your daughter's friend's hubby and the screw up in the hospital.....all so very painful :( Let's hope this isn't happening more than not.
All your stories above are absolute proof the virus does exist.
 
I think the virus is real. There may be contributing factors that make it worse.
1. If someone got a regular flu shot this year, they have more of a chance to get sick if they come into contact with a carrier.
2. 5G is present in all of the worst hot spots. Did it weaken immune systems and make people vulnerable? That's something we'll have to wait to find out. All of the major cruise lines recently were outfitted with 5G. Coincidence? Perhaps. Maybe not. I won't be taking a cruise until more is known and won't be investing in cheap cruise stocks.
3. Was the virus created in a lab? Another thing we don't have proof for yet, but it looks suspicious.
4. Are you ready to line up and take your vaccine? Hell no! Especially one that contains a tiny microchip. If you decide to take the jab, inform yourself about what exactly you are agreeing to.
5. Has there been a lot of hype around this pandemic? YES. It wasn't as deadly as predicted.
6. Is there a chance that something hidden has been going on in the world while we were all staying home? YES.
7. Are things ever going back to the way they were? Probably not, but there's always a chance that the world will be a better place in the future for the survivors.
8. Will you ever know the answers? YES. If all goes well, everything is supposed to be disclosed when the time is right.
 
For anyone in the dark about 5G, here's the explanation:

5G is the fifth generation of wireless communications technologies supporting cellular data networks. 5G communication requires the use of communications devices (mostly mobile phones) designed to support the technology.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5G

Therefore leading to this happening:
  • Various 5G towers were burned down in the UK in the wake of people deeming 5G responsible for the coronavirus outbreak across the globe. The burned cell towers belonged to Vodafone, EE and Three UK companies who have confirmed that their respective 5G towers were attacked. 5G tower burned to the ground in England. pic.twitter.com/ATh7w3Y4eL
Fact Check: Are people in the United Kingdom burning down 5G ...
www.republicworld.com/fact-check/technology/fact-check-people-in-the-uk-burning-down-5g-towers.html
 
Not a hoax but over sensationalized. It was supposed to have killed 600,000 people in the US by now. It hasn't. So instead the experts are warning about a worse resurgence in the fall. We aren't even into May yet. Ugh. Medical workers are under pressure...yes in the cities. Here in my rural area we and our 19 Coronavirus cases are just hanging on, waiting for the apocalypse to occur. It's been moved to the fall I hear.
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@Duster how will your #7 opinion (Are things ever going back to the way they were? Probably not, but there's always a chance that the world will be a better place in the future for the survivors.) lead to a better place in the future for survivors?
 
It's certainly is not a hoax, now that I'm older I don't fall for conspiracy theories that easily either. People are getting sick and dying from this virus around the world. Some obviously get it, but their immune systems are stronger so their symptoms are more mild. They claim some can have it and be asymptomatic. I haven't felt sick yet from it, but I won't get close to anyone without a mask on, at the park I keep a good distance from other people. I'd like to be tested, the blood test where they tell you if you had it, and now have antibodies in your blood, that would be interesting and would ease the mind a bit.

Some say the Sandy Hook shooting was a hoax too, never happened. Sad thing is there are people who believe that. :rolleyes:
 
Okay here's the first one I am seeing....might be old news to some of you: I couldn't delete the pics....these are more conspiracy theories than a hoax....

Bill Gates Is Now A Target Of COVID-19 Coronavirus Conspiracy Theories
Bruce Y. Lee
Bruce Y. LeeSenior Contributor
Healthcare
I am a writer, journalist, professor, systems modeler, computational and digital health expert, avocado-eater, and entrepreneur, not always in that order.
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Bill Gates, Co-Chair of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, has warned of a pandemic for years. ... [+]
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What do you get after trying to prepare people for an infectious disease pandemic? How about being accused of causing a pandemic when it actually occurs?

Over the past decade, Bill Gates has been warning about the lack of preparation and systems in place to deal with infectious disease threats that could lead to a pandemic. Two years ago, I covered for Forbes some of these warnings. Now that the world is actually in the midst of the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic, take a wild guess as to whom some conspiracy theorists are now blaming for the pandemic?
Hint, the answer rhymes with chill dates. Yep, some people on social media have been accusing Gates of starting the severe acute respiratory syndrome–coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV2) pandemic. This is after Gates, the billionaire Microsoft co-founder turned philanthropist, has spent much of the second act of his career initiating and supporting efforts to prevent and control infectious diseases via the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, which has funded some of our PHICOR team’s computer modeling research efforts to improve product distribution and disease control. This is after Gates has on multiple occasions pushed for more awareness about the possibility of a pandemic and more efforts to prevent this possibility, such as in this 2015 TED talk:

Yet, now conspiracy theorists are claiming that Gates somehow created this pandemic. Isn’t this like blaming someone for causing a heart attack after he or she has warned you for years about such a possibility?
(Read on if you prefer; not sure if this is a reliable site.....and of course do not believe everything you read … including this article. Judge every piece of information for yourself as to its accuracy. Do not rely on others to tell you what is true. Verify everything you hear from at least three reliable sources, before making any decisions that you may regret later on).

There have been lots of conspiracy theories circulating around about CoVid-19. Remember one thing above all. None of it can be proven.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucel...coronavirus-conspiracy-theories/#485c9eaa6227
 

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