Apparently there is no end to this guys nastiness

Using a Hitler comparison is always fraught with misunderstanding, but it is made to make a point. I consider Trump a dangerous man and his style has some strong similarities to those of Hitler...
 

Ralphy1 said:
Using a Hitler comparison is always fraught with misunderstanding, but it is made to make a point. I consider Trump a dangerous man and his style has some strong similarities to those of Hitler...
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ok... let's go with that.. and I agree.. Hitler used the technique of building up the egos of a people that felt disenfranchised and economically depressed. I suppose one could make that comparison. Trump is using the fear of a certain block of voters... ie those that feel that their is a need to "take back their country"... Unfortunately.. it's the bigoted evangelicals and old white men that he is appealing to. Those that want the country to go back to a time when they felt they had more power. They want minorities.. gays AND women to go back to having no political support. THIS is the group he is honing in on. He is giving public voice to their fears and they feel he is speaking FOR them.
 

Yes, but if we were in a deep recession he just might appeal to a larger segment of the population--enough to gain the White House!
 
QuickSilver said:
The part that worries me the most is NOT Trumps buffoonery and nastiness... but the fact that so many support him... and even cheer him on. Is that how the American psyche has evolved? Why are some so gleeful the nastier and uglier Trump gets? Why are so many saying they want him as President? Is this how they want their country portrayed to the world? It's a very sad commentary.
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Good questions all,QS They worry me too. The fact that he should even be considered as a candidate is a national disgrace. People seem to treating our presidential election as if its just another "reality" show. Keeping my fingers crossed that at some point they will see the impossibility of this man taking part in international diplomacy and dealing with other world leaders.
 
Underock1 said:
Good questions all,QS They worry me too. The fact that he should even be considered as a candidate is a national disgrace. People seem to treating our presidential election as if its just another "reality" show. Keeping my fingers crossed that at some point they will see the impossibility of this man taking part in international diplomacy and dealing with other world leaders.
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Unfortunately he is appealing to the anti-elitist.. no nonsense... kick 'em in the ass mentality of the uninformed. These people feel that the answer to any world crisis is the size of your missile. People who see the answer to dispute and disagreement as who can scream the loudest or a punch in the head. THIS is the group behind Trump. He is giving them the public voice they have longed for.
 
Doubtful.. there is a huge difference in the polls asking who agrees with The Donald.. and those asking who will actually vote for him. I firmly believe that commons sense will prevail when people actually have to go to the ballot box.

You have to keep in mind that the majority of polls now are of Republican voters only. If, God Forbid, he win the Republican nomination he will have to convince women, Blacks, Hispanics, GLBT community and a good portion of us Democrats to vote for him. What do you think are the chances of that
happening?

I personally hope he does get the nomination.. It will insure 8 more years of a Democrat in the WHite House.
 
Hope you are right and Joe Biden is the one that common sense dictates should be president...
 
It will be Hillary Ralphy... Biden is a great guy....but doesn't have the financing or support... and Bernie is a Democratic Socialist. Given the intellect of so many voters this will make him unelectable in the General. I love Bernie and wish that he had a chance, but I'm not going to waste my Primary vote on him. I want to make sure the White House remains in Democratic hands. There is far to much at stake for all of us. Particularly Seniors.
 
Biden is gaining financial and popular support, and he is so much more likeable than Hillary that he would be a sure winner.
 
Royalty arrives late but becomes the center of attention. Let Hillary go, and vote for Joe....
 
AZ Jim said:
Well, he ain't no beauty himself, right? But his nastiness goes deep.
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You'd think a guy with all that money could buy a decent rug....

AZ Jim said:
Can you imagine this guy as a President?
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Nope. However, that being said, Americans seem to take years of prosperity for granted, and tend to forget how a truly toxic (think GWB) can damage the economy, and redistribute wealth from the hands of working people into the coffers of the wealthy white collar criminals.
 
tnthomas said:
You'd think a guy with all that money could buy a decent rug....

Nope. However, that being said, Americans seem to take years of prosperity for granted, and tend to forget how a truly toxic (think GWB) can damage the economy, and redistribute wealth from the hands of working people into the coffers of the wealthy white collar criminals.
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Too bad that wasn't true as Bush did not create the debt you speak off. It was the Democrat Congress that took over Bush's last two years. They took Bush's budgets and then added millions of dollars that Bush could not toss or the budgets he posted to pay the military and other real debts would not get enacted. It was a trap that the Democrats laid for Bush. Waste money our way or you get none. Pretty nasty Democrat ways for sure.
 
BobF said:
Too bad that wasn't true as Bush did not create the debt you speak off. It was the Democrat Congress that took over Bush's last two years. They took Bush's budgets and then added millions of dollars that Bush could not toss or the budgets he posted to pay the military and other real debts would not get enacted. It was a trap that the Democrats laid for Bush. Waste money our way or you get none. Pretty nasty Democrat ways for sure.
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Seriously Bob, your defence of Bush is wearing kind of thin, how about a little honesty here??? O.K., it's always those nasty democrats makin' GWB look bad- good grief!



It was a trap that the Democrats laid for Bush.
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Oh yea, time to get out the tinfoil hats!


I really wish that the GOP could return to actually being conservative, responsible and accountable, like the good old days...
 
It's too early for all this talk. And no matter who wins it's three branches of government, not one person(although it seems like at times) and system loaded with parliamentary procedure and political machination.

I doubt Trump will win if for no other reason than the establishment Republicans and Democrats will some how sabotage his campaign. Just like they tried berating and sabotaging Ross Perot in 1992. The establishment parties want "professional politicians" and not the unique, independent or outsiders. The establishment is worse than a union feeling entitled to political jobs & power.

If Trump goes so does Sanders although this year predictability is fading.
 
Daddy Bush irritated and invigorated by the presidential campaign. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/25/u...e-old.html?smid=tw-nytpolitics&smtyp=cur&_r=0


Contempt for Mr. Trump runs deep in the clan. Two people interviewed, who are in direct communication with the elder Mr. Bush but requested anonymity to avoid betraying a confidence, said Mr. Trump had revived painful memories among the Bushes of another blunt populist: H. Ross Perot. The family has long believed Mr. Perot’s third-party candidacy helped Bill Clinton capture the White House from Mr. Bush in 1992.

Jeb Bush’s brother Neil has also vented privately about how bad Mr. Trump is for the country, say people who have spoken to him but did not want to be quoted revealing private conversations.

And their father has been highly irritated by Mr. Trump’s ridicule. The former reality TV star has in recent weeks taunted both former PresidentGeorge W. Bush and Jeb over the Sept 11 attacks.

“He is throwing shoes at the TV when his son gets attacked and insulted by our favorite candidate,” Jeb Bush joked, referring to his father and Mr. Trump, at a campaign stop in New Hampshire.

“They’re all challenged by what’s going on,” Andrew Card said about the Bush family, referring to the “roller-coaster ride” of a campaign.
But Mr. Card, who served key roles in both Bush administrations and was with members of the family last week for a Points of Light foundation celebration, said that though the current race had not gone as planned, it had been a boon for the first President Bush. “It’s keeping him young,” Mr. Card said.

Jeb Bush echoed that statement, calling the campaign rejuvenating for his father. And the elder Mr. Bush has long had a particular attachment to Jeb and his aspirations, once publicly weeping as he recalled his son’s grace in defeat during a 1994 run for governor.

Barbara Bush, 90, likes to tease her husband about how obsessive he has become about the election. She will often pick up a book or turn to her knitting as the former president absorbs the political chatter on cable television, while the two sit side by side in their Houston home’s graceful library.

Still, she is doing her part: She has affixed a “Jeb!” sticker to her walker, and when people remark on it, she reaches into a stash of stickers she carries. During a brunch last year with Dave Carney, an old Bush hand from New Hampshire, she spent 20 minutes grilling him about her son’s prospects in this first primary state.
 
I still keep wondering about a suggestion someone posted one day. Trump has always been very close to the Clinton's. Is it possible he has been planted as the over the top doofus that will lead more votes to her? I dunno, weirder things have happened.
 
The Inspector said:
Trump's popularity just tells me they is something wrong with 1/3 of 1/3 of the people in the US.
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I don't honestly believe that if the election were tomorrow that Trump would get 30% of the vote. People in today's society may be stupid, but they ain't dumb!!! The current "like" for Trump is the fact he has become and entertainment for them. It's still a little over a year before the election. People will enjoy watching and listening to Trump for the next few months. Carson sure isn't "fun" to listen to. Cruz acts like he's having constipation issues. Rubio and Bush simply bash each other. Fiorina was caught in so many outright lies even the GOP has tossed her aside. So... who does the GOP have to keep folks interested in the upcoming Presidential election? And, as long as they continue promoting Trump they aren't putting forward an electable candidate.
 
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