Are You A Pot Stirrer?

I guess I still have christian values, as the world would call them, but as I mentioned I had them long before I knew a thing about christianity. My family were basically heathens, as the world would call them. I guess aside from the liberal and the conservative, I look for the good in people and if it outweighs the bad, well, that's who I want to hang with.
 

Left in Canada can be quite far left, as in Communist Party or Green Party and a few others I'm not familiar with. There once was NDP (New Democratic Party) but
the main two are Liberal and Conservative and I consider myself a left wing Liberal. We don't mix religion and politics here, Conservative does not mean Christian by any stretch of the word, or vice versa. We don't have capital punishment and its illegal to carry a weapon, unless you have a registered gun which is transported in a locked container. Of course there are many illegal weapons smuggled in, nonetheless.
 
I sometimes wonder what brought my family down from Canada. They are all gone, although some cousins still up in BC, Ontario. I'd like to know more about them so I will try when I get settled, to do some research. I know my grandmother was Catholic, but none of that was passed down to us. I know nothing about their beliefs as far as libs or conservs.
 

Dame Warrigal said:
I am socially progressive and am concerned about social justice issues. This means that I tend to line up with the Left side of the political spectrum but I take them to task for their shortcomings as much as I do the Right. Both fall short of my expectations quite frequently. My political expectations are predicated on my Christian values of preferential treatment for the poor and disadvantaged.

Yes, I do like to stir the pot sometimes. Usually when everyone seems to be in unthinking agreement on some complex issue. We call it prodding the possum.
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Sounds like priming the pump here, or stoking the fire;) Dame. I don't think I could ever be totally one or the other. I just see things on both sides I am for, or against.
 
O.K., it looks like the conversation is about categorizing a person's political persuasion and associating it with some kind of preconceived label. So here it goes:
I'm Christian, and believe that there is ample documentation that Jesus had a strong social conscience, and advocated acceptance of others, and not having a judgmental attitude. Taking care of the needy is something that Jesus felt was important. Jesus had no tolerance for the greedy and corrupt[moneychangers].
Moving forward, I value conservative ideals, including being conscientious about protecting the world's resources, and insuring that the world's peoples have a chance to enjoy the fruits of their labor.

To sum up(laptop battery low): Unless the GOP regains its civility and respectability, I'll never vote with them. I'll vote for socially and fiscally responsible candidates. In short,I am a true conservative.
 
I will say only this, to suggest that Christian means Conservative reflects a lack of data. I am not at all religious but more Liberals are than some seem to believe. Not all who profess "Christianity" are at all what they would have us believe either BTW.
 
AZ Jim said:
I will say only this, to suggest that Christian means Conservative reflects a lack of data. I am not at all religious but more Liberals are than some seem to believe. Not all who profess "Christianity" are at all what they would have us believe either BTW.
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Quite true, I agree. I seriously dispute and call into question the definition of what people refer to as "conservative". Of course, these type of labels are fluid, and change from time to time and place. I argue with my right wing associates that one can't consider themself as conservative if you ignore the health of the Earth's ecosystems, and are solely concerned with your own enrichment.

I refer to my Christian viewpoint to illustrate that the spiritual and philosophical basis of Christendom(ie, the teaching of Jesus) clearing shows that Jesus was perhaps the World's first socialist, and not the Reagan Republican that some would have you believe that He was.
 
I don't think I stir the pot but it seems some like to fight about just about anything and may take what I post and twist it somehow to make trouble with it. I noticed someone did that the other day. I didn't take the bait happy to say.
 
How can either Left wing choices/agenda or right Conservative choices/agenda claim either has correct solutions? And be sure they are? Suggesting that Jesus was perhaps the first socialist? Oh wow, putting him in a category such as how humans think is not possible. I lean more Conservative, but when I've disagreed with some conservative point, I'm disappointed and I make up my own mind........
 
Maybe not a whole pot. :giggle:

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Interesting, a 6 year old thread lays dormant and suddenly springs back to life without missing a beat! :LOL:

Here's a hit from Googling "pot stirrer":

"They have talent, but stirring the pot allows them to draw attention to themselves for self-promotion. They can do good work, but stirring the pot to create drama masks their performance or contribution short falls. They are both outspoken, but also chit-chatting behind the scenes."


http://marcyheim.com/how-to-deal-with-a-pot-stirrer
 
AnnieA said:
Why bump a thread that the OP meant to be controversial? He flat out stated that was his intent.
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Great comment...obviously the resurrection of a 2015 thread with such a topic heading, is done by a "pot stirrer!" :sneaky:
 
Since this old thread was resurrected, and my thoughts have changed since then, thought I'd comment without getting political. I am no longer in favor of the death penalty, after learning of some cases where DNA proved some people to be innocent of their alleged crimes. Also, I'm no longer for the Keystone pipeline, due to all I've learned since the start of this thread. I'm not an expert on either of these subjects and don't claim to be, just a regular citizen giving my take on things.
 

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