Are you listening to the news? Officer Wilson Not Indicted in Brown Shooting

AprilT said:
What is this the 5th thread to rehash the same old opinions on the matter. :thumbsup1:
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True April... Those that wanted it.... got the ruling the "wanted" and they are very very happy with it... Who needs a trial?... who needs the truth?.. so long as the preconceived notions and sterotypes were upheld.. Those so convinced justice was done will never be convinced otherwise. Hopefully the Federal Courts will fix this travesty.
 
AprilT said:
What is this the 5th thread to rehash the same old opinions on the matter.
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You're right, we don't need a million different threads on this same topic, that's for sure. A couple have been merged. And no Ralphy, I don't see the men agreeing with that Grand Jury "decision" not to indict. There are plenty of men protesting, and my husband sees through all the funny business that went on with that prosecutor's tactics and the jury. They made the fairest decision that they could make with the "evidence" or lack of that was selectively provided. Let's not keep on beating this dead horse either, it's becoming repetitive and frankly annoying.
 
SeaBreeze said:
You're right, we don't need a million different threads on this same topic, that's for sure. A couple have been merged. And no Ralphy, I don't see the men agreeing with that Grand Jury "decision" not to indict. There are plenty of men protesting, and my husband sees through all the funny business that went on with that prosecutor's tactics and the jury. They made the fairest decision that they could make with the "evidence" or lack of that was selectively provided. Let's not keep on beating this dead horse either, it's becoming repetitive and frankly annoying.
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I, for one, thank you. SB
 
Okay, just when you thought the smoke had settled, along comes another tidbit of information. If you go to the following site, you will see an image of an audio thingy (really techy eh?) and while it doesn't work itself or at least didn't for me, if you look just above it you will see where it says 'obtained audio'. Clicking on that phrase will take you to an audio file that does work and you will hear a series of gunshots in the background.

Going back to the Daily Kos page, that author has written out an evaluation of the police officers story and the relevance to the audio file. I haven't read through the Daily Kos page at this point, but my husband did sort of and gave me his 30 second synopsis and it's his suggestion that maybe those who are not accepting the grand jury's decision might have a good point.

So while I'm still not thrilled that the mood on the street seems to have totally ignored the actions of Michael Brown in that store, there might be validity to their concerns strictly as it pertains to the actions of the policeman and the grand jury. So have a listen, read through the Daily Kos breakdown of events and maybe adjust your thinking or stoke your fire some more. I'll be giving it a quick read myself later as I'm not really 'married' to either possibility at this point.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...-Darren-Wilson-s-story-is-false?detail=email#
 
Debby said:
Not all women are responding to the 'maternal' instinct. I've asked my husband repeatedly why the majority seem to be ignoring the video from the store where the 'gentle giant' stole and then shoved the store owner against the counter when he attempted to intervene and save his property.

As a white person and one who's been lucky to lead the kind of sheltered life that many can only dream of, I understand that I don't understand what it's like to be a black person or a person of any other colour in North America. I also realize that racism is an evil that not only hurts the individual but also society. Personally, I don't think making Michael Brown into the poster boy for this change is reasonable. How about instead all that energy was turned towards the horror of that twelve year old boy who was killed because he was black and a kid just playing a stupid and turns out, dangerous game on that playground? Or maybe that little hispanic baby who had a grenade blow up beside his face in his crib? Seems to me that either of those would make more sense.
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LOLLLLLLLLLLLLL, Debby, I LOVE your avatar!! Hilarious!!
 
Debby said:
Okay, just when you thought the smoke had settled, along comes another tidbit of information. If you go to the following site, you will see an image of an audio thingy (really techy eh?) and while it doesn't work itself or at least didn't for me, if you look just above it you will see where it says 'obtained audio'. Clicking on that phrase will take you to an audio file that does work and you will hear a series of gunshots in the background.

Going back to the Daily Kos page, that author has written out an evaluation of the police officers story and the relevance to the audio file. I haven't read through the Daily Kos page at this point, but my husband did sort of and gave me his 30 second synopsis and it's his suggestion that maybe those who are not accepting the grand jury's decision might have a good point.

So while I'm still not thrilled that the mood on the street seems to have totally ignored the actions of Michael Brown in that store, there might be validity to their concerns strictly as it pertains to the actions of the policeman and the grand jury. So have a listen, read through the Daily Kos breakdown of events and maybe adjust your thinking or stoke your fire some more. I'll be giving it a quick read myself later as I'm not really 'married' to either possibility at this point.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/...-Darren-Wilson-s-story-is-false?detail=email#
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The biggest piece of forensic evidence seems to be the 20 ft blood trail which seems to show Brown still being able to come at Officer Wilson after being shot.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cop-Darren-Wilson-Michael-Brown-shooting.html

There is much more including Wilson did not have a Taser that day, he had mace. So those who complain about why not tase the point is moot.
 
No need for anyone to read the Daily Kos. It is a far left, progressive, liberal operations. That should be enough for most anyone to realize that its output will be plenty biased to fit the far left thinking. Which in itself means not really open minded and ready to accept other than their own biased thinking.
 
The point is Bob, to read it in conjunction with the audio that is on another site and in fact even showed up on CNN at one point. But hey, if you don't want to, okie dokie.
 
WhatInThe said:
The biggest piece of forensic evidence seems to be the 20 ft blood trail which seems to show Brown still being able to come at Officer Wilson after being shot.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...cop-Darren-Wilson-Michael-Brown-shooting.html

There is much more including Wilson did not have a Taser that day, he had mace. So those who complain about why not tase the point is moot.
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Man, that one would be hard to fake. I know some folks thinks the police set it all up, I don't.
 
The point of this whole Grand Jury thing was NOT to hold a trial and review evidence. That should have all been done at a real trial with a real Jury and a defense, and a prosecution and cross exam. Wilson may well had had reason to kill Brown. The Point of this debate is that the Grand jury was misused, by a prosecutor who had an agenda... This was confirmed by a Supreme Court Justice AND the National Bar Association. The Grand Jury was given an unconstitutional law to base their decision on.. only at the very last minute was the actual law handed to them on a piece of paper with no instruction. These are LAY PEOPLE...and they were give all this to cypher through with nothing to base anything on. This debate should be taking place in an actual courtroom in an actual trial. If Wilson is innocent.. it would have been proven.. NOW we will never know who did or didn't do what... because a zealot prosecutor decided to put the fix in.
 
Just to put this into perspective... It is INCREDIBLY rare for a Grand Jury to NOT return an indictment..

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/ferguson-michael-brown-indictment-darren-wilson/

The decision wasn’t a surprise — leaks from the grand jury had led most observers to conclude an indictment was unlikely — but it was unusual. Grand juries nearly always decide to indict.
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Or at least, they nearly always do so in cases that don’t involve police officers.
Former New York state Chief Judge Sol Wachtler famously remarked that a prosecutor could persuade a grand jury to “indict a ham sandwich.” The data suggests he was barely exaggerating: According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. attorneys prosecuted 162,000 federal cases in 2010, the most recent year for which we have data. Grand juries declined to return an indictment in 11 of them.
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A Grand Jury in Missouri.

http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-procedure/how-does-a-grand-jury-work.html

How does a Grand Jury work?

The Grand Jury plays an important role in the criminal process, but not one that involves a finding of guilt or punishment of a party. Instead, a prosecutor will work with a Grand Jury to decide whether to bring criminal charges or an indictment against a potential defendant -- usualy reserved fro serious felonies.

(And more)

At this point it seems that the Grand Jury did work as it was supposed to work. Lots of unhappy folks around but that does not mean that the Grand Jury was wrong at all.

Read the entire artical as it seems to me to be a very flexible and open place to make a decision. I do wonder too about all these claims about evidence given or not given in a Grand Juey as the evidence is supposed to be kept private to protect those on the Grand Jury.
 
Debby said:
What's the matter? Is my mustache not trimmed nice? Damn I hate this whole menopause thing. How unfair, can't even keep my mustache tidy. I'm so embarrassed.......
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Yeah well, you've encouraged me to just say hell with the new facial hair. I'm tired of "tweezing" I mean when it gets to about 100 unwanted hairs, yeah, hell with it, LOL!!
 
Yeah, this is where I am at with it all Ina;)

"Peace among protest: A Portland police officer noticed a 12-year-old boy holding a sign that read "Free Hugs" during a Ferguson demonstration in Oregon. The officer started talking to the boy about the demonstration, school and life. When they were done talking, the officer asked if he was going to get a hug."

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Police & Verdict Prostestors Causing Another Christie Bridge Gate

The Ferguson and Staten Island no indictment protestors now have their own bridge gate(and it will get worse). Women goes into labor stuck in Berkley protests.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/20...-after-protesters-shut-down-i-80-in-berkeley/

Funny how many of these same protestors and commentators were trying to hang Chris Christie for Bridge Gate yet these protestors are getting a free pass and even encouragement. You have free speech but can't yell fire in a crowded theatre. Shouldn't public highways be considered a theatre. This is why they want permit for legal valid and traffic controlled protests.

I get the Staten Island/Garner No indictment but the 4 1/2 minute "die-ins" to symbolize the four and a half hours Michael Browns body was left on the street in Ferguson "on purpose" are perpetuating a lie. Agitated bystanders and crowd wouldn't leave the scene and made it difficult for the body to be removed.

http://fox2now.com/2014/09/08/medic...el-browns-body-lay-on-the-ground-for-4-hours/
 

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