Atheist TV channel launched!

Ralphy1

Ralphy1

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It seems that you can now watch atheist programming just like you can watch religious programming. This is a good thing in a free society and I welcome it.
 

I welcome it too, but probably won't be interested in watching. I think most atheists, like me, simply don't believe in the ridiculous notion of gods. We are not out to convert the world although I believe the world would be a much better place without religions.

I'm betting though, that there will be protests from religious groups, mainly Christians, against the networks and sponsors who carry the channel.
 
I have reached the point of total non-believer after being a pantheist for many years. All of life is nothing but a food chain that can be very cruel and it is hard for me to believe that a loving god could create such a system. And, when looking at nature as a force it would seem that it makes mores sense but is not totally a full explanation of the universe. This is probably ver simplistic on my part but I am a big fan of Omar Khayyam.
 

They have their right to launch it, but as Christian's, wife and I sure don't like it. Everyone wants a "say" in their beliefs today, whether it be religious, political or whatever. People yell "discrimination" if they don't get their way, of which to me is a bunch of bull! IMO
 
Everyone is entitled to their say.

Personally I find militant atheism and fundamentalist Christianity to be opposite sides of the same coin.
Both tend to be extremely didactic and closed to any other ideas and each exists to attack the other.
The people who watch these kind of channels tend to be fellow travellers but unless they are preaching hate, where's the harm?

Of course, the same freedoms must be extended to other isms: Islam, Hinduism, Judaism, communism and Buddhism, with the same caveat - no hatred preaching.
 
ClassicRockr said:
They have their right to launch it, but as Christian's, wife and I sure don't like it. Everyone wants a "say" in their beliefs today, whether it be religious, political or whatever. People yell "discrimination" if they don't get their way, of which to me is a bunch of bull! IMO
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No offense, but Christians tend to be some of the biggest offenders in that arena. Around here recently, possibly statewide, I'm not sure, Christian groups, in response to some court ruling, forced some local high schools to allow Christian literature to be made available to anyone who wanted it, during lunch & possibly before & after school. I think they had tables set up in a commons type areas, with stacks of pamphlets, etc.

So in response, a local atheist group did the same thing a few weeks later. I think the difference between the two was that the Christians were trying to prosthelytize to the kids, while the atheists were just trying to make a point to the Christians, by letting them know that every time the Christians tried to use the public schools to promote their religious beliefs, the atheists were going to come along & sort of "undo" it. Because fair is fair & if you're going to take advantage of legal technicalities in order to get your side of the story out, then the other side can, will & should do the same. Not to mention the fact that it opens up the door to much more "objectionable" groups like, for example, Satanists. If Christians & atheists have the right to disseminate literature, what's to stop Satan worshippers from doing the same thing? And do you really want your kid having those ideas promoted to them?

At any rate, I think it worked because no more local Christian groups have set up tables in local public schools since then.
 
Well, with this Thread, I think most, if not all, Christians that reply here will say "must agree to disagree".

People can say what they want to say, but they'd better be ready for any repercussions! American's do have "Freedom of Speech", but many, many times that "right" is taken way to far and things get "out-of-hand". A person can yell the "f" bomb at a law enforcement officer, but be ready for what will happen! A person can do the same thing at a Judge, but again, be ready for what's next.
 
Another thing I will say......there are Christians out there that go to far with preaching! When I was in the Navy, in San Diego, I'd come out of the Armed Forces YMCA and on each corner of the street were people w/Bibles telling me to go to their church. Not so much "asking", but "telling". I'd look at them and say "when I want to go to church, I will.". One guy started to follow me, was saying something and I turned around and said "leave me alone" sort of loud and bluntly.

When we would take our boat out on Sunday morning, instead of going to church or Bible Study, when the people at church ask us, "where were you last Sunday?" and we told them "we took our boat out", they gave us a odd look and walked away. "You took your boat out instead of coming to church........how dare you" we felt they were thinking.

I have two SIL's that are very heavy into Christianity and, at times, it is hard to talk to them on the phone. Whenever they send us a Christmas card, they always write a Bible verse in it. I just go "ok" and give it to my wife. My one SIL's kid tell her that she is a "fanatic" Christian.
 
I think we all have the right to believe in whatever works for each of us. But why do so many think they have the right to foster their beliefs on those around them? Beliefs are a personal choice. :wave:
 
I don't watch any religious shows on TV, and if they've been allowing all those other preachers to be on the airwaves for years raking in the big bucks from their followers, then the atheists should have the same freedom of speech. I was raised as a Catholic as a child, and as an adult have no longer followed any religion or gone to any churches, to me it's just another business.

I'm not going to badmouth Christians, but as Rockr said, many of them are extremely pushy about others conforming to their beliefs, and they attempt to dominate others all the time. The born agains drive me insane, you can't have a conversation with them and not have a 'quote' from the bible in every other sentence, as they constantly want to convert you so you can also be saved. Meanwhile, the ones I've met personally are just low lifes who were thieves, woman beaters, druggies, etc., and being 'saved' has not changed their characters.

I think any religious or non-religious group should be able to have their own television channel in America, including the Satanists...people who are interested will watch, and those who aren't can ignore the channel.
 
Just read this that the Admin posted, so will delete part of my reply here. Don't want to make trouble or get into trouble about a Thread.

"Regardless of the topic, we ask that all members are respectful to each other, and keep a civil tone in all discussions in the forums. We do not accept rudeness, name calling, offensive or insulting posts"

One thing for sure, religion has always been a rough Topic/Thread to discuss.
 
Because that is what they are asked/told to do! Religious believers are suppose to be like Recruiters.

Ina said:
I think we all have the right to believe in whatever works for each of us. But why do so many think they have the right to foster their beliefs on those around them? Beliefs are a personal choice. :wave:
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Atheist TV channel launched!

Thats the first step next comes the 'Please help with your contributions" then you'll see the main speakers with $500 suits with pointed alligator $200 shoes.

Wonder if Joel Osteen will start another money grabbing "converting an Atheist forum" followed by his 10th book "Jesus Will Save The Atheists".

There's a lotta bucks to be made here.
 
Funny, someone said this about Joyce Meyer Ministries and the house/property her and her husband live in. But, her reply was very interesting to me, "why is it that other folks, who get money from people, can live the "good life", but Pastor's and Minister's can't?"

The church we've gone to before, put out the next years budget report/request and it truly amazed me that the budget amount for the Pastor's of the church was around $7,000,000 dollars. That would mean the Head Pastor of the church was making over a million a year! And, this church isn't on TV!! This $7,000,000 budget was only for the Pastor's, not for the entire church budget. The people end up paying it and the church stays alive.

SeaBreeze said:
I don't watch any religious shows on TV, and if they've been allowing all those other preachers to be on the airwaves for years raking in the big bucks from their followers, then the atheists should have the same freedom of speech. I was raised as a Catholic as a child, and as an adult have no longer followed any religion or gone to any churches, to me it's just another business.

I'm not going to badmouth Christians, but as Rockr said, many of them are extremely pushy about others conforming to their beliefs, and they attempt to dominate others all the time. The born agains drive me insane, you can't have a conversation with them and not have a 'quote' from the bible in every other sentence, as they constantly want to convert you so you can also be saved. Meanwhile, the ones I've met personally are just low lifes who were thieves, woman beaters, druggies, etc., and being 'saved' has not changed their characters.

I think any religious or non-religious group should be able to have their own television channel in America, including the Satanists...people who are interested will watch, and those who aren't can ignore the channel.
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I've just woken up so I seem to have missed a bit of this conversation.

Christianity does have at it's core the commandment to go into all the world to preach the gospel and in some way all Christians are called to be missionaries. However, there are also instructions not to push the point when it is not wanted or appreciated - shake the dust from your sandals and move on etc.

I like St Francis of Assisi's idea: "Preach the Gospel at all times and when necessary use words".
In the context of competing ideas about the nature of the good life it is necessary to demonstrate with your actions the principles that you are advocating.

My church is currently sporting a banner that says "Refugees are welcome here" and inside today we are hosting a playgroup for pre-schoolers and their carers. No-one will be proselytised and people of all faiths and none are all welcome. We serve God by serving the local community and that is an eloquent form of mission that does not need to use words.

I would like to add that the form of in-your-face evangelism that is very prevalent in the USA is not the model that thrives everywhere else.
 

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