Aunt Jemima brand to change name, remove image that Quaker says is 'based on a racial stereotype'

C'est Moi said:
Yes, because it's always a good thing to substitute one insult for another. Who decided that calling a white woman "Karen" is OK when calling a black woman "Aunt Jemima" is not? The crap never ends, it just changes course.
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White women are termed "Karens" when their behavior is entitled, obnoxious, demanding, complaining and oftentimes racist. A living example is the woman who not only refused to leash her dog in Central Park, but called 911 with the false claim that an African-American male was threatening her and her dog.

It's not the same thing as "Aunt Jemima" and if you don't see that already, nothing that's said on this forum will get you there.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/centra...alls-cops-black-man-fired-franklin-templeton/
 

StarSong said:
White women are termed "Karens" when their behavior is entitled, obnoxious, demanding, complaining and oftentimes racist. A living example is the woman who not only refused to leash her dog in Central Park, but called 911 with the false claim that an African-American male was threatening her and her dog.

It's not the same thing as "Aunt Jemima" and if you don't see that already, nothing that's said on this forum will get you there.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/centra...alls-cops-black-man-fired-franklin-templeton/
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I know exactly why white women are called Karens, but thanks for playing. In my world, any name calling is offensive, so stop making excuses for it. There is no exclusivity to bad behavior, I don't care what color you are. Maybe black women with attitude should be called "Ernestine." Would that be OK?
 
I'm not sure if this is the place to address my comments but it does follow the same lines of thinking. I used to live in a community surrounded by antique shops and farms. My house was built in 1920 so my habits of collecting were farm style and old things inside of my home and outside in my garden. Over the years I found myself collecting mammy dolls, tea pots, salt/pepper shakers, etc. My most lucky find was a yard jockey holding a lantern. My intentions were never intended to be derogatory and I am the last person to make incriminating remarks or jokes. Collecting was an attraction, part of my small town upbringing, the hunt and they were part of history. My daughter was dismayed as my mammy doll collection grew.

I have recently moved and downsized, I sold all my collectibles including all my antique furniture, etc. Believe me when I say I did not have any problems getting selling any of my collectibles. Then covid19 came which brought protests, anger, destruction and fear. I've had so much time by myself, arguing with the walls, talking it over with my cat, trying to understand humanity at it's ugliest. I need to be open for change to happen.

I recently sent an apology to my daughter and one of her coworkers who is black and who had visited my home before I moved. I felt I needed to apologize especially to him for my point of view/my collectibles. As innocent as I felt it was in reality it was not. I was lucky as my apology was well received. I don't believe in the destruction of history. It's the only way to learn and go forward. But these "collectibles", these statues, names of teams, products, etc. are all part of our history. We should not deny it... we should not hang onto it...
 

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Although, I have to wonder, why the name Karen for this kind of behavior? Was there a TV character or something like that named Karen?
 
Came from a Dane Cook routine:

"The friend nobody likes
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There is one person, in every group of friends, that nobody ****ing likes
You basically keep them there, to hate their guts
When that person is not around the rest of your little base camp
Your hobby, is cutting that person down

Example: "Karen, is always a douchebag."

Every group has a Karen and she is always a bag of douche
And when she's not around, you just look at each other and say
"God, Karen, she's such a douchebag!"
Until she walks up, then you're like

"Hey, what's up Kar-? Kar-. What's up Kar-?"

There's always that one person - "
https://genius.com/Dane-cook-the-friend-nobody-likes-lyrics
 
Wow. And they get mad at white folks for being racist? I have never used the "N" word in my life yet I have always heard the term "cracker" and whatever else they've come up with. It isn't necessary to be racist. But people anymore need a reason to fight. Doesn't matter how big or small the reason. Just as long as there is one.
 
Hmmm.... well, I have a daughter named Karen, who doesn't behave like that at all. Her name was sort of a family joke for a while as she had 5 friends named Karen! That was obviously the big name for girls in the 60's. But aside from being a ridiculously popular name, I never heard any of that negative stuff about it until very recently.
 
Sunny said:
Hmmm.... well, I have a daughter named Karen, who doesn't behave like that at all. Her name was sort of a family joke for a while as she had 5 friends named Karen! That was obviously the big name for girls in the 60's. But aside from being a ridiculously popular name, I never heard any of that negative stuff about it until very recently.
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First girlfriend was named Karen, will always have a soft spot for that name.

I know the meme and all but I just don't see much of that behavior in real life.
 
C'est Moi said:
I know exactly why white women are called Karens, but thanks for playing. In my world, any name calling is offensive, so stop making excuses for it. There is no exclusivity to bad behavior, I don't care what color you are. Maybe black women with attitude should be called "Ernestine." Would that be OK?
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Just so ya know....I never heard of White women being called Karens so did not know there was derogatory intent. Like I always say...."ya learn something new every day!" @StarSong
 

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