Debby
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Is it not possible and even likely that people in the Middle East (not the rulers and guys who are getting set up as puppet governments but just the citizens) are fed up with being used by America? They got tired of a giant country coming in and making decisions on how their country should be run and who should run it. They got tired of watching that giant country set up dictatorships that only took and took and took from them. (The Shah of Iran comes instantly to mind and Hosni Mobarik of Egypt) They got tired of being the pawns of that giant country and concocted 9/11?
Did you know that the government of Iran before America's man, the Shah, was actually a democratically elected government? Ukraine is another modern day example. That previous government was democratically elected but because the US wants to put NATO military bases on Russia's border, the government that was leaning towards Russia had to go. And the CIA got in there quietly and started to do what they do best (to the tune of $5 billion) which is to destabilize and manipulate and set up horrible people. And then along comes the rest of the administration, all approving (John McCain and Biden both made their visits there and Biden's son is now working within Ukraines largest oil and gas company!) and discounting anything that doesn't go with their agenda and the result is Victoria Nuland famously saying 'f*** the EU'. The whole concept of 'we're only spreading freedom and democracy around the world' is a crock.
I understand that you are protective of your country. But don't be deliberately blind. When your kid is starting to act like a little thug and he's getting into scrapes with the authorities, do you brush it off and blame everybody else or do you call a halt to his activities and get him the help he needs?
One of my daughters had a bad year as a teen. She wasn't doing anything illegal but she was hanging out with a crowd of kids that seemed to be heading that way and covering it up with lying and such. After the final episode which included going down to the police station to look at books and see if she recognized who might have been the guy a friend of hers was claiming had raped her, we took action. We didn't sit around blaming the school, her friends parents, her friends or anyone else. She was responsible for her actions and she lost ALL her friends within a week, because we pulled her out of that school and life as she had known it.....was over. We acted and she changed and she never ever got in trouble again. And the point of this story, which while a very individual and personal one is to show that being blind and blaming the other people/countries is not conducive to improving the situation so that everyone benefits.
As I've said to you before, my government hears from me regularly on issues that are of concern to me and in this case, they've heard from me because of our obvious abandonment of our historical Peace Keeping role.
Just as an aside, here's a link to a page that talks about why the government previous to the Shah was booted. Apparently he wanted to audit the books of the British Petroleum company and when they refused, he tried to nationalize Irans oil fields so Britain and America got rid of him and put in place a military government with the Shah as the defacto monarchy! The page goes on to point out how the CIA has admitted to it's actions in that country.
"...The CIA is quoted acknowledging the coup was carried out "under CIA direction" and "as an act of U.S. foreign policy, conceived and approved at the highest levels of government."[SUP][13]..."[/SUP]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d'état
By the way, as you read the link provided, think about every other national protest around the world and ask yourself, 'is the CIA there, doing exactly what they did in Iran to overthrow that countries elected and popular Prime Minister in 1953.
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