Aussies launch air strikes against ISIS!

You are so right, QS, I consider the teaparty to be the most vile evil thing that has happened to our country in recent years.
 

Which is more to the proper way for our Congress to work. Our Congress was not set up for 'political parties' to us and was supposed to allow the people of different regions and needs of the country to have a forum to use for their wants and needs. Our current, last 50 or so years, has had way too much time wasted on trying to make the country way far left socialist. Conservatives get little ear in the Congress these days as our current President wants to make the country into his ides of what is right, far left for sure. He has kept the Congress pretty much shut down while his favorite folk get assignments to do this or that which Obama thinks is right. Two more years and hopefully then we will be able to post a new president that is not so far off the proper way for out government to run, by the peoples voices, not the very biased President. The President should present his ideas to a Congress who will then debate and accept, modify, or reject, based on the peoples wishes.

The Tea Party has not taken over the Congress. They do have a voice there, same as any other political group should have. Right now the Democrat part of the Congress is also split with the more conservative types being totally overpowered by the far left bunch now running the Congress only for the Presidents ideas. But that idea may get challenged in the new election in Nov 4.
 

Boehner is terrified of the TeaParty factor in the House. He refuses to bring up any bill for debate or for a vote... BOBF... ONLY the Speaker of the House can bring up bills.. SO.. now tell me again how Democrats are stopping debate in the House.. If Boehner will not bring a bill to the floor... HOW is it going to get debated? Boehner has destroyed how our government works.. His Congress has been the least productive in history... unless you consider 50+ votes to repeal Obamacare productive.. Me thinks you have the right idea... only you are blaming the WRONG party.. NOW stop it...and go have a cup of tea!! lol!!
 
Jackie22 said:
Obama has kept the Congress shut down?? LOL.....All I can say is that you need to come out of that cave you are living in.
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Yes Jackie... didn't you know that? He shut down the whole government in order that Veterans couldn't go to the war memorials AND he forced Ted Cruz to read Green Eggs and Ham on the floor of the Senate! But that was just a distraction... so he could scheme to have the ebola epidemic started in Africa... because you know he is FROM Africa.. and then arrange to have it brought to the States... Which of course is being done by the hundreds of the ISIS combatants that are coming in from Mexico...to take over control of our government and institute Sharia law.... because you know he's a Muslim... except Duncan, who is probably a relative of Obama brought it in first... WHEW.....
 
QuickSilver said:
Boehner is terrified of the TeaParty factor in the House. He refuses to bring up any bill for debate or for a vote... BOBF... ONLY the Speaker of the House can bring up bills.. SO.. now tell me again how Democrats are stopping debate in the House.. If Boehner will not bring a bill to the floor... HOW is it going to get debated? Boehner has destroyed how our government works.. His Congress has been the least productive in history... unless you consider 50+ votes to repeal Obamacare productive.. Me thinks you have the right idea... only you are blaming the WRONG party.. NOW stop it...and go have a cup of tea!! lol!!
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Totally inaccurate. The House is not the Congress for one item. Another item is that the Senate can also start a procedure too. As I understand things. And no matter how many items the House may start, the Senate, under the direction of one of our most stubborn and uncooperative Senate leader in Reed, just puts them in the maybe someday look at it basket and the never looks. So it is Definitely the twisted Democrats that are the problem. Not the Republican House.

Time to end this stupid discussion and just let the people try to fix the mess we have in about two weeks.

The biggest problem with the Tea Party is their goal to reduce the size of the government and put responsibility into the hands of the people once again, as it once was and still should be. That is the way our government worked for hundreds of years. But in the last years from around 1960 and up till today we have just kept on adding to the federal governments size and duties. This just costs us more in taxes to pay for the extra federal employees and their over payed jobs. No real benefits seen from much of this stuff. Just more power points for some of the politicians.

Blaming the wrong party? For me, I vote often a split ticket, depending on the subject. Much better that those that lock on to a party vote as too many do. It will likely get better if everyone voted the way our Constitution suggests rather than with the closed party vote that too many depend on.
 
BobF said:
Totally inaccurate. The House is not the Congress for one item. Another item is that the Senate can also start a procedure too. As I understand things. And no matter how many items the House may start, the Senate, under the direction of one of our most stubborn and uncooperative Senate leader in Reed, just puts them in the maybe someday look at it basket and the never looks. So it is Definitely the twisted Democrats that are the problem. Not the Republican House.

Time to end this stupid discussion and just let the people try to fix the mess we have in about two weeks.

The biggest problem with the Tea Party is their goal to reduce the size of the government and put responsibility into the hands of the people once again, as it once was and still should be. That is the way our government worked for hundreds of years. But in the last years from around 1960 and up till today we have just kept on adding to the federal governments size and duties. This just costs us more in taxes to pay for the extra federal employees and their over payed jobs. No real benefits seen from much of this stuff. Just more power points for some of the politicians.




Blaming the wrong party? For me, I vote often a split ticket, depending on the subject. Much better that those that lock on to a party vote as too many do. It will likely get better if everyone voted the way our Constitution suggests rather than with the closed party vote that too many depend on.
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Bobby..... the Senate can and HAS started proceedings... and passed them... however, then it has to go to the HOUSE.. and Boehner won't bring anything to the floor for a vote.. As for Reed... why would he put the nonsense coming from the Republican house up? Like 50 bills to repeal Obamacare... Do you think the President would sign any crap coming from the Teaparty lead House? You really have a strange idea about how this government is working.. or rather not working and why... Exactly what kind of TEA are YOU drinking?

Hey!! Let me give you a little shiver up your leg.... Ready? .................BENGHAZI!
 
QuickSilver said:
Bobby..... the Senate can and HAS started proceedings... and passed them... however, then it has to go to the HOUSE.. and Boehner won't bring anything to the floor for a vote.. As for Reed... why would he put the nonsense coming from the Republican house up? Like 50 bills to repeal Obamacare... Do you think the President would sign any crap coming from the Teaparty lead House? You really have a strange idea about how this government is working.. or rather not working and why... Exactly what kind of TEA are YOU drinking?

Hey!! Let me give you a little shiver up your leg.... Ready? .................BENGHAZI!
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And just what has Benghazi got to do with the current election worries? That is just another of Obama's strange situations. A situation where our government had not prepared to prevent this problem from happening, other countries did, and then pretty much slept through the event till several were killed and the ambassadors residence was destroyed. All because of our current governments failures. Nothing else.

You are right. Lots of bills to stop Obama care. Obama care never would have been started if they left the vote stand, but they did not and held the vote open till they had gotten enough votes changed or proposed vote changed to their liking. In the future, once Obama is gone, there will be special efforts to change or alter how Obama care operates. It is far too expensive the way it is now going and needs brought into better balance for all. There was never any reason to put all of the US under the same controls. We should have just concentrated on the very poor that could not get medical care from their pocket change. Most hospitals would take in the poor and give them help. Then, after the problem was found and help given they were asked to pay. When they could not pay, there were ways to take care of the problem. Now with Obama care I wonder how the hospitals do take care of walk in pleas for help.

So far Obama has driven the national debt from 10 trillion to near 20 trillion. Prior to Obama, the federal debt was about 7 trillion with efforts to hold that level and try to pay down. Not so with Obama and the future generations will really hurt to pay back for his waste of money and increasing the debts. As I posted earlyier, Reed and Pelosi managed to spend enough to raise Bush's debt from 7 trillion to 10 trillion in two years. It was done by attaching large and wasteful spending to Bushes war time budget bills. To keep the Iraq and Afghanistan situations going Bush had to have such moneys and that meant he had to approve those wasteful dollar's that Reed and Pelosi push on the real bills that had to pass. Real nice way for fools to get their ways. Yeah sure.

I have no strange ideas about how this government is working at all. Obama has just taken over, tossed normal ways for the government to work, wants total party control rather than the debated and voted on Congressional control. Not much of our government is now run through the Congress as it should. Too much done with these ordained committees and departments that Obama has set up to avoid the proper debates and votes of our Congress. Something that many just do not know about or disagree with.
 
QuickSilver said:
Pretty hard for rational people to understand Bob...
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When a 'party' decides to ignore the Constitution to do things, it is no longer a US minded government. That is what we have in control right now. A non Constitutional minded government. Too bad for the current government and I suggest that the same political party could be in charge with the next president and I think Hillary will do a much better jjob of running things than Obama has done. Hillary is much more likely to work through the Congress than to deviate and go around Congress. Obama was a good speaker and convinced a lot of folks he would do a good job. But he has failed to prove himself. Hillary offers hope to go back to the Constitutional ways of running our government for the Democrats.

That is if Hillary decides to officially run again.
 
QuickSilver said:
That's fine Bob... I'll leave you to your delusions.. So long as you aren't going to hurt yourself.. :cool:
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It appears you don't like the idea of Hillary being more Constitutional than our worm Obama.

Obama is a nice man with a nice family. But he fails as a smart politician for the future of the US. We are currently heading into a great financial problem due to Obama's wasteful ways of depleting our national wealth, his crippling of our business and industry efforts, and his ever growing debt he is creating.
 
Fern said:
This thread is about
Aussies launch air strikes against ISIS!

and it's been hijacked by the US, sounds familiar.
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Fern, you are quite right. I should have stopped trading posts with the other lady that did not care when I suggested we quite this political argument. Unfortunately I did respond to all her misguided and often wrong ideas about our US government and how it should work.

That is true about the hijack, but not sure what you meant about 'sounds familiar'.
 
Fern said:
This thread is about
Aussies launch air strikes against ISIS!

and it's been hijacked by the US, sounds familiar.
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My sincere apologies Fern... I guess I can't stop myself from responding to such obvious and blatant nonsense being spouted. I should not have done that..The thread was about Australia... not the USA...... but you know how we Americans are... all arrogant and filled with self importance.. It's in our blood.. Thank Goodness we have people here that can point that out and keep us in line..
 
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