Authorities make largest cocaine seizure at N.Y.-N.J. port in 25 years

So long as there are people stupid enough to get addicted to drugs, there will always be someone ready to supply them. The drugs that are "seized" are probably just a small fraction of what makes it to the streets.
 
That seizure will make only a minor dent in the quantity of blow hitting the street. Where there is demand, there will always be supply. The war on drugs is a sham, existing only to keep the involved agencies funded, and the coffers of politicians, police and judges full, with kickbacks and bribes. All drugs should be legalized, with strict control on their sales, but that'll never happen because of the vested interests those in power have in keeping them illegal.
 
treeguy64 said:
That seizure will make only a minor dent in the quantity of blow hitting the street. Where there is demand, there will always be supply. The war on drugs is a sham, existing only to keep the involved agencies funded, and the coffers of politicians, police and judges full, with kickbacks and bribes. All drugs should be legalized, with strict control on their sales, but that'll never happen because of the vested interests those in power have in keeping them illegal.
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Agree with you there treeguy.
 
treeguy64 said:
That seizure will make only a minor dent in the quantity of blow hitting the street. Where there is demand, there will always be supply. The war on drugs is a sham, existing only to keep the involved agencies funded, and the coffers of politicians, police and judges full, with kickbacks and bribes. All drugs should be legalized, with strict control on their sales, but that'll never happen because of the vested interests those in power have in keeping them illegal.
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Sounds like you're describing Prohibition in the 1930's. Same thing then, just a different set of drugs. They eventually smartened up and realized that people were going to swill it down, regardless. It became legal with some restrictions. Wonder how the tens or hundreds of thousands of death attributed to alcohol use, over the years, will compare to the new class of drug in the same number of years?
 
DaveA said:
Sounds like you're describing Prohibition in the 1930's. Same thing then, just a different set of drugs. They eventually smartened up and realized that people were going to swill it down, regardless. It became legal with some restrictions. Wonder how the tens or hundreds of thousands of death attributed to alcohol use, over the years, will compare to the new class of drug in the same number of years?
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That's my whole take on the thing........if people want drugs?...let them have what they want. Regulate them, & take the street profit out of them. The war on drugs is a joke , been going on for 50 years, and drug use is higher [no pun intended] than ever.
 
We have to come up with a better way to deal with addiction. The idea of making drugs illegal only leads to what we have- addiction, crime, disrespect for the law, crowded prisons, and brutal criminal organizations. I don't have a good answer, but what we are doing sucks. Didn't Prohibition teach us anything?
 
Wasn't cocaine considered the party drug. One of many things seemingly coming back in style. I keep flashing back to the cocaine 80s, I remember on more than one occasion walking into a public restroom in bar or restaurant having to wait for someone to finish their line of cocaine-quite pathetic actually-getting high in a toilet.

Long time cocaine addiction is tough on the body. I think that's what actor Jan Micheal Vincent died from-issues stemming from a cocaine addiction.
 
WhatInThe said:
Long time cocaine addiction is tough on the body. I think that's what actor Jan Micheal Vincent died from-issues stemming from a cocaine addiction.
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I goes back to people choosing what they want to get high, the problem always lies with those who choose to abuse and use excessively. Pick your poison, plenty die from alcohol addiction, tough on the body, devastating to the liver.
 
SeaBreeze said:
I goes back to people choosing what they want to get high, the problem always lies with those who choose to abuse and use excessively. Pick your poison, plenty die from alcohol addiction, tough on the body, devastating to the liver.
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Exactly. If you want to do the crime be prepared to the time or in this case suffer the consequences. I knew a bunch guys at the gym who did cocaine which started out as a Saturday night party drug. At least one apparently got addicted and did steroids among other things. He came into the gym so hyped up one day that he did one warm up set and jumped right into heavy weight ripping his shoulder. That was only the beginning of the consequences for chasing that high.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
We have to come up with a better way to deal with addiction. The idea of making drugs illegal only leads to what we have- addiction, crime, disrespect for the law, crowded prisons, and brutal criminal organizations. I don't have a good answer, but what we are doing sucks. Didn't Prohibition teach us anything?
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"Didn't prohibition teach us anything"........is exactly my point. Alcohol was prohibited, just like drugs. And people wanted it even more. Hence the ending [of] prohibition. It is available today, regulated,taxed, etc. And laws against over use [of] it etc. are enforced.

So why not lift the [prohibition] of drugs.....Remember alcohol [is] a drug.

There is not near as much crime around alcohol as there is drugs......no drive-by shootings, gang wars,etc.

So,so many said/feared, that the legalization of gambling , opening of casinos would bring crime, drugs, prostitution, etc so-on. Never happened , people who choose to flock to them every weekend, and enjoy doing so.
 
treeguy64 said:
That seizure will make only a minor dent in the quantity of blow hitting the street. Where there is demand, there will always be supply. The war on drugs is a sham, existing only to keep the involved agencies funded, and the coffers of politicians, police and judges full, with kickbacks and bribes. All drugs should be legalized, with strict control on their sales, but that'll never happen because of the vested interests those in power have in keeping them illegal.
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I was thinking it must have been one of their competitors. ;)
 
There are trade offs with legal and illegal drugs.

One of the biggest would a reduced prison population/system which might save money and be more humane. That being said being easier to obtain and use now there's the costs of regulation and dealing with the addicted because now instead of a tax payer funded prison system or it will a tax payer and/or insurance premium payer funded issue. Some of these rehab facilities can run 50-100k a month. Making it legal can make everyone else's problem other than just funding the criminal justice system because now it would be funding the medical and/or rehab industry. Throw more substances that could cause accidents there could be more innocent un associated victims to pay for.
 

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