AWWWWWW..Thats a shame

hollydolly said:
Long live mob rule if it gets these twisted bar stewards put away where they belong nice and quickly!!
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Yes, because that's where justice is always found.

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Ina said:
Mr. Jim, I know you mean well, but I think the father did the right thing as far as the child was concerned. The child now knows that his father will protect him, and that in the future, he can trust that protection, and that is more important than the justice system's rights. What his father did will go a long way in helping the child understand that it wasn't his fault.
I wish someone had been there to help me see that I wasn't the cause of making those horrors happening to me. :hide:
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I'm sorry to hear of your suffering. I suffered abuse at the hands of those bigger than me when I was little, too. It wasn't that uncommon in our day.

But I think the kid would've been left with a much better impression of his father had he just held the guy down on the floor until the police came & took him away in handcuffs.

Teaching a child that violence is a good way to solve problems is never a good thing.

Now, when the kid gets in trouble for beating up some other kid over a disagreement at school or on the baseball field, his dad won't need to look very far to see where he got it from.

Of course, after listening to him on that 911 call tape, he sounds like the kind of guy who might be proud of his son for beating somebody up.

Until the kid grows up, gets married & starts beating up his wife...

The thing about circles is that they tend to just keep on turning.
 

Ina said:
Mr. Jim, I know you mean well, but I think the father did the right thing as far as the child was concerned. The child now knows that his father will protect him, and that in the future, he can trust that protection, and that is more important than the justice system's rights. What his father did will go a long way in helping the child understand that it wasn't his fault.
I wish someone had been there to help me see that I wasn't the cause of making those horrors happening to me. :hide:
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Oh Ina I'm so sorry that happened to you and no-one to protect you either. I could cry for you. :(
 
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MrJim said:
Yeah & you'd be in jail looking at a murder charge & slowly coming to the realization that maybe what you did wasn't the smartest move you could've made.

Then, even if the jury acquitted you, you'd be stuck with tens of thousands of dollars in legal bills.

Possibly lose your job & have to sell your house.

Etc., etc., etc.
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Maybe, or maybe not. I think if somebody was in my home raping my child, I'd take my chances. I'd have no problems paying legal fees if needed, my home is bought and paid for, and I'm retired, so I wouldn't lose my job. Maybe I would call 911, have the police come and take him, where he'd get a slap on the wrist, possibly a short visit in jail, then out on the streets again to sexually abuse or kill another child...http://www.foxnews.com/story/2005/04/16/molesters-often-strike-again/ Then maybe I'd be kicking myself for not doing the smart thing to begin with.
 
SeaBreeze said:
Maybe, or maybe not. I think if somebody was in my home raping my child, I'd take my chances. I'd have no problems paying legal fees if needed, my home is bought and paid for, and I'm retired, so I wouldn't lose my job. Maybe I would call 911, have the police come and take him, where he'd get a slap on the wrist, possibly a short visit in jail, then out on the streets again to sexually abuse or kill another child...http://www.foxnews.com/story/2005/04/16/molesters-often-strike-again/ Then maybe I'd be kicking myself for not doing the smart thing to begin with.
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I'm joining your club SB , well said!!
 
You're very sweet Ina, but I'm not a hero at all, just a person that wants what's fair for all involved. I don't ever want to be a victim, and I would not tolerate anyone in my family becoming one if I could do anything at all to prevent it. I feel sorry for anyone like yourself who's been abused as a child, I'm very grateful I never had an experience like that in my life. I have no forgiveness for these monsters who prey on children, Hollydolly, glad you're in my club, we're not alone, there are many members who want to do what is right.

There's way too many cases to even begin to post, but I remember recently a news story of a young girl being grabbed by someone living in her neighborhood. This guy was a previous sex offender, who was laying low in his parents house, luckily for this girl, she did all the right things and got away from him.

http://kdvr.com/2014/06/11/police-s...ter-attempted-kidnapping-of-10-year-old-girl/

Here's a case from Australia of a repeat sexual offender pedophile, and his light punishment by the legal system...http://www.mako.org.au/shane-williams-paedophile-repeat-offender.html
 
Totally agree with you, Sea.

It's hard for people that have never faced a violent criminal to understand the trauma one goes through, during and especially long after the act. We've all been brainwashed to believe in Truth, Justice and The American Way, but you know what?

It doesn't always work out the way it does on TV.

Many years ago I spent 3 months in County because I was defending myself against 3 punks that were trying to break into my car. 2 of them were armed - with a bat and a knife. I put them all down, the cops showed up and guess what? I got hit with "use of excessive force".

But I would do it again in an instant, because those guys never messed with anyone or anything since then. A friend of mine on the force ran their sheets and they've stayed out of trouble since that incident.

If I had blithely stood by while they took my car, even if they had been caught they would have been through the revolving door of the local justice system faster than my insurance company check would have arrived. Then they would have become even more emboldened and who knows what they would have pulled next? They weren't afraid of trying to kill me, so figure what would have happened to someone untrained in self-defense ...

Sorry, MrJim, but the illusion of justice faded for me many years ago. Sure there are occasional victories, but for the most part my tax dollars go to providing these sub-animals with cable, free weights, free medical and free education.

... IF they even see the inside of a cell.
 
I agree with you too, SeaBreeze. I just can't imagine someone just calling the police and waiting for them while the abuse is going on. That would be the worst kind of parental neglect. In a civilized society, parents have a DUTY to protect their children.
 
Im all for what you guys are saying about this kid BUT The thought of killing another human being, no matter what he did,is not my thing.
Something like this will be on your mind FOREVER.
I want this guy alive to suffer the loss of his whole ***** after its cut off and shoved up his ash AND we all know he will not last too long in prison when he meets his "daddy".
 
If this creep was only 18 and doing this for several years what the heck is going on in his family and house. Right now if I were the parents of this kid I would've had the for sale sign up yesterday. I hope the police investigate them as well.
 
I figure this jay bird gets 10-15 years in the gray bar motel. if he lives. then the first parole hearing in 3-5
 

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