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Ralphy1

Ralphy1

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Another hearing will take place in October. This is a wast of time and money in my estimation and is just political theater. Surely you agree with me...
 

IMHO, the Republicans are making an error in this constant legal harassment of Ms. Clinton. So far, she has not been indicted, convicted... or found innocent of the various and sundry conspiracies tossed out by the right. That "status of limbo" has caused some doubt in the minds of the undecided voters and would probably assist the Republicans at election time.
Instead of allowing that doubt to quietly fester in the background, the far right has scheduled more than one hearing/litigation where Ms. Clinton will appear and testify under oath. If she weathers these hearings, appears strong and in control, many of the doubts will disappear and the GOP will be seen as staging "witch hunts". It will backfire and she will come out a clear winner. Of course, if something is proven as criminal, the time and money spent will be worth it to the GOP.
Ms. Clinton is an experienced and proven politician. Even if she did err on the side of circumventing some legislative rules, she is entirely too "street smart" to have left a trail. This is nothing but political grandstanding by the far right.
The Tea Party candidates are continuing their attempts to bring down America rather than build it up. One would have thought the years of "birtherism" would have taught a lesson. It's difficult to pour sand into a rock! Currently, our infrastructure in deteriorating and the Highway Bill is expiring. Thousands of people will be laid off from their jobs in engineering and highway maintenance if a new highway bill is not passed. Instead of moving the bill through the system, the Tea Party is insisting on adding an amendment to repeal the Affordable Care Act. Sacrifice the good of the whole to make some political points with your small constituency of right wing disciples.
 
One exception I would take with your otherwise fine comments, Grumpy, is that the Tea Party does not see itself as bringing the country down, rather, as trying to build it back up...
 
Grumpy Ol' Man said:
IMHO, the Republicans are making an error in this constant legal harassment of Ms. Clinton. So far, she has not been indicted, convicted... or found innocent of the various and sundry conspiracies tossed out by the right. That "status of limbo" has caused some doubt in the minds of the undecided voters and would probably assist the Republicans at election time.
Instead of allowing that doubt to quietly fester in the background, the far right has scheduled more than one hearing/litigation where Ms. Clinton will appear and testify under oath. If she weathers these hearings, appears strong and in control, many of the doubts will disappear and the GOP will be seen as staging "witch hunts". It will backfire and she will come out a clear winner. Of course, if something is proven as criminal, the time and money spent will be worth it to the GOP.
Ms. Clinton is an experienced and proven politician. Even if she did err on the side of circumventing some legislative rules, she is entirely too "street smart" to have left a trail. This is nothing but political grandstanding by the far right.
The Tea Party candidates are continuing their attempts to bring down America rather than build it up. One would have thought the years of "birtherism" would have taught a lesson. It's difficult to pour sand into a rock! Currently, our infrastructure in deteriorating and the Highway Bill is expiring. Thousands of people will be laid off from their jobs in engineering and highway maintenance if a new highway bill is not passed. Instead of moving the bill through the system, the Tea Party is insisting on adding an amendment to repeal the Affordable Care Act. Sacrifice the good of the whole to make some political points with your small constituency of right wing disciples.
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I agree... The GOP can never resist a chance to over play it's hand.. They do it over and over and it always backfires. You would think they would learn... but what was it that Einstein said about insanity?? lol!!
 
The GOP has very little to hammer her with so they keep going after her honesty which polls are showing that she is losing credibility in this area...
 
Ralphy1 said:
The GOP has very little to hammer her with so they keep going after her honesty which polls are showing that she is losing credibility in this area...
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Yes... that is exactly what they are doing... despicable lot aren't they. Unfortunately, with the vast money in the game due to Citizens United.. many folks will fall for that propaganda.. Sickening.
 
QuickSilver said:
Yes... that is exactly what they are doing... despicable lot aren't they. Unfortunately, with the vast money in the game due to Citizens United.. many folks will fall for that propaganda.. Sickening.
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Too bad we can't get George Sorro's on our side as well. The Republicans could really use that money he is wasting on the Democrats.
 
If there is anyone left in the USA that hasn't figured out this is just a underhanded "dirty trick" of the republicans to smear the Democratic front runner for President, I'd led him or her to a nice quiet place where people in white coats will help care for them.
 
Hillary will be better than what we have today. But most anyone would be better than what we have today.

10 trillion of more unexplained debt. Why and for what? It was at 7.5 trillion in Bush's term, the the Democrats took over Congress and it went right up to over 10 trillion debt. Obama arrives and now it is over 18 trillion in debt and still climbing. But it is all the Republicans fault?

One fact Obama never talks about is the debt he has created. When Obama is gone, someone will have to figure out how to pay down our debts, quickly, before the US credit gets hurt more than it already is.
 
BobF said:
Hillary will be better than what we have today. But most anyone would be better than what we have today.

10 trillion of more unexplained debt. Why and for what? It was at 7.5 trillion in Bush's term, the the Democrats took over Congress and it went right up to over 10 trillion debt. Obama arrives and now it is over 18 trillion in debt and still climbing. But it is all the Republicans fault?

One fact Obama never talks about is the debt he has created. When Obama is gone, someone will have to figure out how to pay down our debts, quickly, before the US credit gets hurt more than it already is.
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I was wondering when you were going to bloviate about the mythical Obama debt....
 
We have been through this a hundred times and you have been continually proven wrong by me and others.. and it has been pointed out to you over and over that a President CANNOT spend with Congress approving it.. It is Constitutionally IMPOSSIBLE... Yet.. you cling to your delusion. I'm not going to continue this with you...
 
A major reason for that debt is republican "decider" G.W. Bush. A solution is once we finally pay his debts and the debts incurred to put us back on stable footing, is DO NOT ELECT MORE REPUBLICANS!!!!!
 
QuickSilver said:
We have been through this a hundred times and you have been continually proven wrong by me and others.. and it has been pointed out to you over and over that a President CANNOT spend with Congress approving it.. It is Constitutionally IMPOSSIBLE... Yet.. you cling to your delusion. I'm not going to continue this with you...
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Maybe you have been over this a hundred times but I have not been proven wrong. It is you that is having trouble with reality.

Until this past winter, Obama would tell the Congress he needed lots of bucks. No specified locations for spending, just give me lots of bucks to play with. And our socialist led Democratic Senate always approved all this spending. Having a Republican house did no good as when they tried to stop this undocumented and crazy spending. The government just shut down and blamed it all on the Republicans. Now we do have a Republican House and Senate, but not sure how much good they can have with a 'shut down the government' minded President. Obama just has no love of our type of government, he just wants money to play with. And he can really force his wishes anytime he shuts down the government. The people of the US do have a need for government services. Especially those services the government has taken over and say they will control it their way. If closed nothing gets done.
 
AZ Jim said:
A major reason for that debt is republican "decider" G.W. Bush. A solution is once we finally pay his debts and the debts incurred to put us back on stable footing, is DO NOT ELECT MORE REPUBLICANS!!!!!
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Jim, how do you come up with such a lie as this. George Bush had a debt of 7.5 trillion showing until his last 2 years when the Democrats took both House and Senate and forced debt up to over 10 trillion in two years of Bush's service. Now Obama has pushed it all the way up to 18 trillion dollars. I suppose you think that was all Bush too. What a bunch of BS you are trying to sell Jim.
 
OMG!!!! So much is absolute bunk in that post it would take a book to present the REAL facts and then Bob would once again say, as he just did, "your facts are wrong". The poor guy is lost in his hatred and cannot be reasoned with.
 
drifter said:
Everybody is entitled to spend a little money now and then, Bob. You and I shouldn't be worrying ourselves about such small potatoes as debt. We've got professionals working for us that handle things like that. It'll never be a problem for you and I. We'll be dead and gone before the bill collector comes calling, then some smart guys will worry about that puny debt. Maybe someday somebody will solve that national debt problem, if not it may be like the poor, who will always be with us. Me and you need not worry about Obama either. I'm sure they are talking among themselves, like families do, about what they are going to do and where they will live when they leave office. Write your representative or your senator and lay your worries at their feet. Not to worry. They will handle it for you. That's why we elect them so we can enjoy our retirement years, worry free. Do me a favor and relax, you're beating this subject to death and it's a non issue for me and you who've already got one foot in the grave.
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You are so right about us being gone before these debts get paid off. We should not be doing this to our kids and grand kids. What a mess we are creating for them. They will need more than jobs to live and help pay down these debts. Not too far down the road the government will be like Greece. Lots of good ideas for the folks but no money to pay for them. These lies we have to live with are a shame for us to put up with and urge more yet.
 
AZ Jim said:
OMG!!!! So much is absolute bunk in that post it would take a book to present the REAL facts and then Bob would once again say, as he just did, "your facts are wrong". The poor guy is lost in his hatred and cannot be reasoned with.
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I never expected you to understand. Facts are facts and the government is publishing them. Who better to know than the government.

Not hatred Jim. Just some open minded facts that even you could open and read.
 
In one of Bob's posts, he says the spending under a Republican POTUS was the fault of a Democratic majority in Congress. Soon thereafter, Bob says the spending during the tenure of a Republican controlled Congress is the fault of a Democratic POTUS. I do believe this truly defines the word "spin".
 

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