I would have sworn that cockroaches have sex for fun!
Bible Christianity implies sex for procreation only
- Thread starter Mr. Ed
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Not so in Australia - extremely few babies available for adoption and most people would not be able to do so.
Like you I am not quite understanding the religious argument here - the christian line ,as I understand it, is fine with people enjoying sex and doing so for pleasure without trying for pregnancy - within the moral framework of marriage/monogamy.
Have you asked a cockroach about that? They have lives too (not in my house, though, to make that clear).
I don't have them either! I'm pretty sure cockroaches aren't mammals.
gruntlabor
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No, I think maybe they just estimate.
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That is a very common misconception, no pun intended; in fact, Catholics believe that every act of sex should be open to procreation. There's a difference.
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Not at all.
fuzzybuddy
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I've always wondered why most religions have a big bugaboo about sex. It's the same as we are supposed to eat food, only as nourishment, but not savor nor enjoy it.
spectratg
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Simply not true! Many animal species have plenty of sex for fun. For example,
"Bonobos do not form permanent monogamous sexual relationships with individual partners. They also do not seem to discriminate in their sexual behavior by sex or age, with the possible exception of abstaining from sexual activity between mothers and their adult sons."
Mr. Ed
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Regarding animals having sex for fun,
just look at dogs humping you can’t tell me he or she doesn’t have a smile on their face?
just look at dogs humping you can’t tell me he or she doesn’t have a smile on their face?
George1959
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The Catholic church exactly for this reason refused to execute and even bless marriages between a female and a paralyzed male who couldn't perform the act. As I studied ecclesiastical law in the 1980s this still was quite common. Only logical for such an inhuman 'religion'.
George1959
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Don't forget the tomcat who pushes the cat down to perform the act. This looks more like a rape than an act for lust, at least for her.
George1959
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In my opinion the "Song of Songs" (also called the "Song of Solomon") has the most lyrical and affectionate descriptions of desire and love between man and woman.
How beautiful you are, my darling!
Oh, how beautiful!
Your eyes behind your veil are doves.
Your hair is like a flock of goats
descending from the hills of Gilead.
2 Your teeth are like a flock of sheep just shorn,
coming up from the washing.
Each has its twin;
not one of them is alone.
3 Your lips are like a scarlet ribbon;
your mouth is lovely.
Your temples behind your veil
are like the halves of a pomegranate.
4 Your neck is like the tower of David,
built with courses of stone[a];
on it hang a thousand shields,
all of them shields of warriors.
5 Your breasts are like two fawns,
like twin fawns of a gazelle
that browse among the lilies.
6 Until the day breaks
and the shadows flee,
I will go to the mountain of myrrh
and to the hill of incense.
7 You are altogether beautiful, my darling;
there is no flaw in you.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Song of Songs 4&version=NIV
How beautiful you are, my darling!
Oh, how beautiful!
Your eyes behind your veil are doves.
Your hair is like a flock of goats
descending from the hills of Gilead.
2 Your teeth are like a flock of sheep just shorn,
coming up from the washing.
Each has its twin;
not one of them is alone.
3 Your lips are like a scarlet ribbon;
your mouth is lovely.
Your temples behind your veil
are like the halves of a pomegranate.
4 Your neck is like the tower of David,
built with courses of stone[a];
on it hang a thousand shields,
all of them shields of warriors.
5 Your breasts are like two fawns,
like twin fawns of a gazelle
that browse among the lilies.
6 Until the day breaks
and the shadows flee,
I will go to the mountain of myrrh
and to the hill of incense.
7 You are altogether beautiful, my darling;
there is no flaw in you.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Song of Songs 4&version=NIV
Meanwhile the age of puberty continues to drop.
Why Are More Children Going Through Puberty At A Younger Age?
Why Are More Children Going Through Puberty At A Younger Age?
David777
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To understand why, you should read link per below I posted recently that clearly show that long before the rise of any Judaism, Islam, or Christianity, ancients in Mesopotamia were already following some of those practices that were later absorbed by the OT peoples.
Bible Christianity implies sex for procreation only
This below link provides clear, easy to read current policies of the church. Though I attend church, I neither have the background nor interest to be involved in the issues, nor as a many decades "Let it Be" person push such on others. And I can state over decades, I've never listened to any sermons discussing the below except in rare cases to point those involved in anti-abortion to active groups and also the recent pedophile scandals. In other words, the below are not issues being discussed by ordinary Catholics, only news media and propagandists. Instead they are quietly accepted as Bible scripture based taboos without a need for discussion.
Outline of Catholic Church Teaching On Sexual Ethics | EWTN
snippets:
As recently as 1930, every mainline Protestant church vigorously condemned those sexual behaviors that they considered to be damaging to society and a danger to the souls of individuals. These acts included divorce, artificial contraception, abortion, euthanasia, fornication, adultery, the use of pornography, and homosexual behavior.
The Roman Catholic Church is the only remaining major religious entity that holds fast to its prohibitions on these behaviors. For this reason, the Catholic Church is the focus of an unprecedented campaign of propaganda and subversion generated by Neoliberal organizations and individuals.
One of the most effective tactics used by those trying to confuse Church members is false claims about its teachings. These claims generally fall into three categories;
(1) Church teachings on various sexual topics are "not monolithic;" i.e., there is considerable disagreement among the laity and theologians as to what behavior is acceptable and what is not.
(2) The Pope is just another Bishop, so American Catholics should be free to conform to the sexual mores of their society instead of those dictated by an obscure Italian bishop and his insulated staff of old men. Americans should be free to "follow their consciences."
(3) The Church has not always condemned such practices as abortion and birth control. Therefore, it can change its teachings on these subjects.
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I've always thought that, too. I recently attended a wedding at which the bride and groom selected that as one of their readings.
Mr. Ed
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Interestingly, no responses about same-sex relation nor about mastication. We know what good Christians and bible says about homosexuality, not much about masturbation but I am certain it is frowned upon because doing so does not produce babies. Speaking for myself, no wonder the world is screwed up.
Mr. Ed
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Religion can be a heavy trip. It takes time and life experiences to sort things out to be true to yourself. With or without religion life is a mystery because everyone gets to choose who they want be. If you are lucky you will become the man or woman you are meant to be. There is no right or wrong you are who you are and that is something to be proud of.
papa tiger
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A Horney male dog will hump a woman's leg.
An adult bull will drop in the pasture alone.
Female Heffers mount each other all the time.
Hogs the same thing. Same with Rabbits.
Practicing? Octopuses' tear themselves apart.
Lobsters follow each other in a line for many miles across the sea floor.
Locusts can't stand it and crawl out of the ground with wings and make a lot of noise this year.
They fly over to ya, land and die right there while watching us.
Sure, they don't hang on forever. The Kitty's answer.
Some clone young sterile babes.
An adult bull will drop in the pasture alone.
Female Heffers mount each other all the time.
Hogs the same thing. Same with Rabbits.
Practicing? Octopuses' tear themselves apart.
Lobsters follow each other in a line for many miles across the sea floor.
Locusts can't stand it and crawl out of the ground with wings and make a lot of noise this year.
They fly over to ya, land and die right there while watching us.
Sure, they don't hang on forever. The Kitty's answer.
Some clone young sterile babes.
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Mr. Ed
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did they sleep in separate beds?