Biblical topic. Read below and what do you think?

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LadyEmeraude

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Though "God won't give you more than you can handle" is a favorite quote of many believers, it not only never appears in the Bible, but several verses contradict it. 2 Corinthians 1:8, Psalm 38:4, and 1 Kings 19:7 all present situations where believers appear to be completely overwhelmed.

Rather than never putting His followers in situations they can't handle, God occasionally does overwhelm them so they can grow into people capable of handling anything.
 

I plan to take a look later today and delve into what I think about this.

But I am off to work first, and then will be back later~
 
LadyEmeraude said:
Though "God won't give you more than you can handle" is a favorite quote of many believers, it not only never appears in the Bible, but several verses contradict it. 2 Corinthians 1:8, Psalm 38:4, and 1 Kings 19:7 all present situations where believers appear to be completely overwhelmed.

Rather than never putting His followers in situations they can't handle, God occasionally does overwhelm them so they can grow into people capable of handling anything.
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I'm glad someone else brought this up because I do agree that life can overwhelm many and the God they believe in lets it happen. I don't believe suffering, loss and ordeals make a person stronger or better. I've worked with sick people and homeless people plenty in my life and I can tell you for a fact it isn't so. People do get broken by misfortune and it can take a lot to get them back up and normal again. Better for it not to happen in the first place.
 
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This is my opinion on this, not accepted by most on this forum.

First, the individual soul decides his life, based on many factors as karma he has earned
through out multiple lifetimes, his desires, his free will, and agrees to live out any earned
karmic debt, prior to being born on this earth. The soul chooses and knows right from wrong.
The cycle of creation, evolution and dissolution continues. Birth and death continues until
man reaches the value of enlightenment. (God consciousness)

Suffering is not given by God. Suffering is man-made. Suffering is not necessary.
Man's life should be lived in bliss. The absolute and the relative; all in complete happiness.
Man asks to be born on earth to grow towards God. When he becomes aware of
the blissfulness emanating from God, this is his only and supreme goal.

As man evolves, he develops his consciousness and gains strength to withstand anything.
He is eternal. In enlightenment, any problems raised would cease to be problems.
This consciousness brings steadiness and fulfillment to the mind; harmony in nature.
The love, the devotion, the reverence to God and the joy becomes deeper and more profound.
To say "God is responsible" is an ignorant deduction, for all things on earth are man's doing,
through thought and action, and will return to him through innumerable lifetimes.
God is absolute LOVE! Absolute bliss! God does not punish. God is love and light.
 
chic said:
I'm glad someone else brought this up because I do agree that life can overwhelm many and the God they believe in lets it happen. I don't believe suffering, loss and ordeals make a person stronger or better. I've worked with sick people and homeless people plenty in my life and I can tell you for a fact it isn't so. People do get broken by misfortune and it can take a lot to get them back up and normal again. Better for it not to happen in the first place.
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That is the darn truth! Thank you for saying it.
 
God gave most of us the ability to think logically. Logically, there's no proof that God exists other than some books written some 2,000 years ago, but if we don't believe in God or accept Jesus as our savior, we spend eternity in hell after we die.

Is that another example of God "testing us?"
 
SeniorBen said:
God gave most of us the ability to think logically. Logically, there's no proof that God exists other than some books written some 2,000 years ago, but if we don't believe in God or accept Jesus as our savior, we spend eternity in hell after we die.

Is that another example of God "testing us?"
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It could be, although I personally think that our lives here on Earth are the "test". For the most part, we reap what we sow, which results in the "Heaven" or "Hell" that we end up experiencing during life. Of course there are the 'Hilters' and the 'Putins' who seem to get away with their sins, perhaps God's judgement will rectify the injustice.
 
Nathan said:
It could be, although I personally think that our lives here on Earth are the "test". For the most part, we reap what we sow, which results in the "Heaven" or "Hell" that we end up experiencing during life.
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The original meaning of heaven and hell weren't destinations we go to after we die; it was how we're remembered after we die.

If we're remembered fondly, we're in heaven. If you're remembered as being an a-hole, you're in hell.

Christianity turned it into the destination denotation. It might be the Torah where it's the how you're remembered concept. I forget.
 
There are too many conflicting factors in the Bible to make it even remotely true. In my opinion, if religion convinces you the is true based on faith, then religion can sell you on anything. Faith is an idea or concept on two people understand exactly the same way.
There is no oversight to determine the status of godly people because everything is in their head.

Think about it, if you are a godly person, or a provider of human or religious services. No one knows you like you know you.

I am confused by the suppository of everyone sharing similar DNA and how vastly different I am from everyone else.
 
Nathan said:
It could be, although I personally think that our lives here on Earth are the "test". For the most part, we reap what we sow, which results in the "Heaven" or "Hell" that we end up experiencing during life. Of course there are the 'Hilters' and the 'Putins' who seem to get away with their sins, perhaps God's judgement will rectify the injustice.
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I don't believe in tests, we are born, we live, and we die.
 
There's an old saying, "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger". I suspect this referred to illnesses (or medicines) and gaining natural immunity. I don't like the idea of a god who gives you the occasional undeserved beating because it's "character forming". I'll stick to being a Humanist.
 
Mr. Ed said:
I am confused by the suppository of everyone sharing similar DNA and how vastly different I am from everyone else.
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You're not so different. You only think you are. You like to think you are. You're one in a million. Sorry.
 
Pepper said:
You're not so different. You only think you are. You like to think you are. You're one in a million. Sorry.
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I agree, but my social life is limited to church folks and more church folks.I lack intellectual stimulation so I post topics here.
I entrust you to provide me with an intellectual exchange of thought and reason that will quench the quest for greater understanding.

If someone told me in the beginning that a dog looked and behaved like a cat and no one different, then a dog would be represented in the form of a cat.
Same is true about religion, growing up I had no choice but to attend Christian worship services that was enforced by my parents.
When I woke up to realize there is more to life than my parent’s small playground I have tried to sort through and debunk unnecessary information I was trained to believe.
My parents lied to me on so many levels. They put me in harms way by making me spend summers with an older cousin who molested me, when I told my parents what was happening to me, nothing was said or done except I didn’t have to spend time with my cousin.
Because of mental illness I lost 30 years of life and memory.

so I’m figuring things out
 
These verses from 2 Corinthians 12: 6-9 address this topic quite well.

Even if I should choose to boast, I would not be a fool, because I would be speaking the truth. But I refrain, so no one will think more of me than is warranted by what I do or say, or because of these surpassingly great revelations. Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. Three times I pleaded with the Lord to take it away from me. But he said to me, “My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.” Therefore I will boast all the more gladly about my weaknesses, so that Christ’s power may rest on me.
 
Mr. Ed said:
I agree, but my social life is limited to church folks and more church folks.I lack intellectual stimulation so I post topics here.
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What are you talking about? You, in your present life are still dealing with church & church people? If so, you are a masochist.

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Thinking about what I wrote above, I agree with my diagnosis. You are a masochist. You punish yourself over & over, probably to do with your 'sin' crap you grew up with. So sorry you're torturing yourself over & over & over again reliving the worst. Get new company if any is available in that one horse town you live in.
 
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How typical of humans to look for someone to blame for the bad things that happen. Misfortune is part of life. Best to accept it and deal with it than moan, 'Why did this happen to me?'
There seem to be a high number of suicides at the moment. Why do so many young people feel so hopeless about life? Society is obviously failing them. Perhaps schools would do better to make sure they are properly educated and prepared for adult life, instead of confusing them with 'progressive' issues. Being able to have a successful career and support yourself is far more important than worrying about whether you should wear trousers or a frock.
 
Lavinia said:
How typical of humans to look for someone to blame for the bad things that happen. Misfortune is part of life. Best to accept it and deal with it than moan, 'Why did this happen to me?'
There seem to be a high number of suicides at the moment. Why do so many young people feel so hopeless about life? Society is obviously failing them. Perhaps schools would do better to make sure they are properly educated and prepared for adult life, instead of confusing them with 'progressive' issues. Being able to have a successful career and support yourself is far more important than worrying about whether you should wear trousers or a frock.
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Job 38-42
Who are you to question God?
 

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