Biting the hand that feeds them.

Oh sorry Warrigal. It is a bad link.

Just search for reddit.com and type in a search; upper right corner for refugees, etc. It IS insane and I agree with Fern's question; Why aren't the media showing it?
 
Speaking of the media, the Guardian says something else about the reason they were refusing food from the police, not the Red Cross.

Friday 4 September 2015

Hundreds of people remained on a train in the Hungarian town of Bicske over Thursday night following a botched attempt by authorities to move on some of the thousands gathered in Budapest’s main railway station.

The Hungarian authorities earlier appeared to trick hundreds of people into taking a train to a refugee camp outside Budapest in an attempt to end a two-day standoff at the station where thousands have been trying to get to western Europe.

There was confusion at Keleti rail terminus in the morning when departures were initially cancelled and then passengers piled on to a newly arrived train they hoped would take them to Austria or Germany.

Instead, the train stopped in the town of Bicske, outside the capital, where riot police were waiting to take the refugees to an overcrowded facility that many had left a few days earlier in the hope of finding sanctuary in Germany.

There were chaotic scenes at the station when one man pulled his wife and child on to the tracks, begging police not to force them to go to the camp. “We won’t move from here,” he shouted repeatedly. The man was later handcuffed and taken away by officers.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/03/hungary-train-diverts-refugees-back-to-camp
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So, it would appear that it had nothing to do with a Christian symbol on the food. The anger was about being tricked into going to a camp. Perhaps the reason why it is not appearing in the media is because it is not a true story.
 
boozercruiser said:
No me.
Don't worry for them though.
Once they get to the land of milk and honey and benefits and free NHS care and free schooling and houses with the rent paid by the state, they will soon regain their appetite!:mad:
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I'm afraid you're too right about that.
 
Now there's a push to get internet access access to the camps so that they can use their laptops and tablets.

Those poor people, having to exist without access to Facebook.
 
They have families, Laurie.
Every new country that they cross apparently requires a new sim card for the phone.
Facebook may be the best way to let people know that they are OK.
 
I think people are afraid their standard of living will be negatively affected in any number of ways by an influx of "those people." Dehumanising them is one way of rationalising poor treatment. If it is their fault they don't deserve help.
 
Not to mention the fear that seems to prevail... the fear that someone else... some undeserving subhuman is getting something the good people already here are not.
 
Have you noticed the majority of these people are males in the 20-30s,why is that?


Think about this....A record 522,124 migrants and refugees have arrived in Europe by sea this year.
 
Davey Jones said:
Have you noticed the majority of these people are males in the 20-30s,why is that?


Think about this....A record 522,124 migrants and refugees have arrived in Europe by sea this year.
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Do we know this for a FACT? Or are those the pictures being selectively shown to us by the Media? Is there any estimation of the make up of the refugees from a reliable source. If there is a fight going on.. of course only the younger males would be involved... not the women and children.. so I wouldn't place to much stock in the media selected pictures.. We know the media is not above skewing the information and coverage.
 
Warrigal said:
They want to go to Germany, not the UK.
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Come on Warrigal.
With respect, please don't fall for that one.
Most of them SAY that , but do they really mean it?
Please keep in mind, that once they have been registered and accepted, THEN they can go anywhere they want inside the EU.
And just guess where that might be?

After all, once in the UK there is an unbelievable amount of goodies waiting here for them.

Free Housing, Schooling, National Health Care, Money for FOOD for both them and their children, and benefits it would take me hours to explain here.

Going to Germany is just like the Trojan Horse.
Once inside THAT, there is the key to all sorts of goodies, provided by us MUG BRITS!!

Well. Please use your imagination now.
Where wuld YOU go in that situation?
Cheers!:D
 
Fern said:
Syrian refugees, Why aren't the media showing the 'true' situation. They, Syrians, won't eat or drink anything provided by the Red Cross because they have a christian symbol.:mad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRhI0Xqv5Rc
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It's called forcing the narrative. Repeat the desired story over and over it becomes the reality for many. There's old saying: Beggars cannot be choosers.

Reports this week that facebook wants to or plans to censor posts they consider anti immigrant what ever that is. Even Merkel took shots at Zuckerberg because he's zeroing in on Germany right now.

These immigrants, mostly ILLEGAL need to reminded that Beggars Cannot Be Choosers. Or appreciate what they do have even if it's help from a Christian organization.
 
QuickSilver said:
To hear some talk here.... perhaps we should load them all into boxcars.... and..... well..... you know..
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Now come on QuickSilver, I think that is uncalled for.

I am very sure that no one here wishes the genuine refugees, or more likely economic migrant any harm at all.
In fact, only good luck would be wished for them.

BUT, as far as I am concerned enough is enough is enough in respect of immigration.
The UK is FULL, and our critical services like schools and hospitals and housing etc. etc. etc.
(Well, you get the picture?) just CANNOT COPE.

The UK has always welcomed immigrants with open arms and been very good to them.

We had nearly 400,000 imigrants here last year, and they are still pouring in.
This has to stop.
NOW!
 
boozercruiser said:
Now come on QuickSilver, I think that is uncalled for.

I am very sure that no one here wishes the genuine refugees, or more likely economic migrant any harm at all.
In fact, only good luck would be wished for them.

BUT, as far as I am concerned enough is enough is enough in respect of immigration.
The UK is FULL, and our critical services like schools and hospitals and housing etc. etc. etc.
(Well, you get the picture?) just CANNOT COPE.

The UK has always welcomed immigrants with open arms and been very good to them.

We had nearly 400,000 imigrants here last year, and they are still pouring in.
This has to stop.
NOW!
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No you don't wish them harm...... But where are they going to go? Back to Syria? I don't think my remark was uncalled for at all... No solutions being offered only "we don't want them"... so what do you think will befall them if not harm?
 
QuickSilver said:
No you don't wish them harm...... But where are they going to go? Back to Syria? I don't think my remark was uncalled for at all... No solutions being offered only "we don't want them"... so what do you think will befall them if not harm?
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From what I see of them, both syrians and economic migrant, most of them look young and fighting fit to me.
Perhaps they should stay at home and fight for their country?

And I repeat, you said...

'To hear some talk here.... perhaps we should load them all into boxcars.... and..... well..... you know'...

Where you not saying that some of us here perhaps think we sould load them into box cars and send them by train to the gas chambers like Hitler did?

If you didn't mean that, well.....you know...what did you mean?

If you Did mean that then this is uncalled for.
If you didn't mean that, then I apologise right now profusely.
 
boozercruiser said:
From what I see of them, both syrians and economic migrant, most of them look young and fighting fit to me.
Perhaps they should stay at home and fight for their country?

And I repeat, you said...

'To hear some talk here.... perhaps we should load them all into boxcars.... and..... well..... you know'...

Where you not saying that some of us here perhaps think we sould load them into box cars and send them by train to the gas chambers like Hitler did?

If you didn't mean that, well.....you know...what did you mean?

If you Did mean that then this is uncalled for.
If you didn't mean that, then I apologise right now profusely.
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It was exactly what I meant.. It seems to me that far too many would be all to happy to see them put in a boxcar and sent back to Syria to be slaughtered by ISIS rather than have to deal with the issue..

and how do you know that ALL of them are young and fighting fit... by what you see on TV? Seriously.. the Media only puts what it chooses in the news... Young Syrians rioting is news.... camps of old people and women and children is not... DO you expect to see the women and children fighting?
 

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