Black men arrested at Starbucks

JaniceM said:
RE: the first bolded part: I was absolutely stunned when this was addressed in a few American history books I read not long ago- the various authors stated the main reason many southerners were against immigration, even going as far as to start private schools where they could choose who was allowed to attend, was they were 'concerned' that integrated schools could come to mean their little children eventually marrying 'outside their race.'

The second part: I cannot speak for everybody, as I don't know everybody, I can only speak from my own experiences, and from my experiences you do have a point. I can't think of a polite way to word it, but racists I've known in person ('irl') over the years, live 'in the gutter.'
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Although some people allow their parents/family to control who they date/marry, generally speaking people marry who they want to marry. (I'm looking at you, Prince Harry :wink: ) Trying to keep the races separate in school serves no purpose and is no guarantee. Actually, in most of the interracial marriages I know of, the couples met thru work, at a party, in a store, on the street, etc.

Not sure if you're using the term "in the gutter" figuratively, but I know of a LOT of highly educated racists who live charmed lifestyles. And many racists read the bible and attend church regularly. :shrug:


Janice- this next statement is not directed at you, it's just a general reminder:
I didn't say everyone who reads the bible or goes to church is racist, so, please, don't go there.
 

The Washington Post article about the teenage girls referenced Hidden Figures. It's not that old a movie.
 
Hidden Figures was referenced in the article because it's about NASA and because it's an entertaining movie.

My point is that 1) even if the movie did create outrage (and I don't think it did), nothing was resolved on a large scale and 2) there have been many outrage-worthy situations throughout the decades which haven't accomplished anything with regard to racial issues/problems inside and outside the US. In addition to the few examples I gave upthread, apartheid (legal racism) survived for 46 yrs in South Africa.
 

How about this "NO LOITERING" for starters? Next, why wait inside? Why not wait outside then go in, order a cup of coffee and have the meeting? Recent police shootings show the suspects have had "something: in their hands. So, it is pitch black outside, they finally stop running and REFUSE to drop what turns out to be their cell phone or a real life copy of a semi-automatic pistol that turns out to be a BB gun. So blacks complain about police shootings yet REFUSE to drop what they are holding knowing the history of those confrontations often results in them getting shot. Sympathy for the victims? None. Firing the manager was done for the sole purpose of appeasing the black community and never should have happened. She should sue Starbucks.
 
My point is that 1) even if the movie did create outrage (and I don't think it did), nothing was resolved on a large scale and 2) there have been many outrage-worthy situations throughout the decades which haven't accomplished anything with regard to racial issues/problems inside and outside the US. In addition to the few examples I gave upthread, apartheid (legal racism) survived for 46 yrs in South Africa.
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I don't know about that, Applecruncher. This may be one of those glass-half-full vs. glass-half-empty situations. Obviously, public enlightenment and outrage haven't completely eliminated racial or other problems (such as sexual orientation, gun insanity, etc.) But I think the more exposure, the better. Without all the movies, plays, TV shows, etc., not to mention news articles and broadcasts, I doubt that Obama could have been elected. The public's intelligence and awareness had to be raised to some extent by those things. And I think Modern Family has done more for the acceptance of gay marriage than anything else.

Many white teenagers were very moved by Hidden Figures, and inspired to take action. While all this may seem to be taking forever, I do think we are very slowly moving in a forward direction. (Though at times, election results seem to be indicating the opposite. Maybe it's two steps forward, one step backward.)
 
@Sunny

While I don't agree with everything in this article, it really nails it....(and that's sad):

time and time again, we hear the same dismissive and deflective responses from white America:''

“There must be more to the story.”

“If you people would just do what you’re told.”

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/09/07/its-time-to-stop-talking-about-racism-with-white-people/?utm_term=.65abc53d7fcf

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