British members-what say you, re: Prince William Uncovers Dark Plot Against His Family

Mizmo said:
Say what you like..this is just a lovely family

Prince George towers over his siblings Charlotte and Louis at royal Easter service
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George is only 12... yet he's growing so fast. His mother is 5.9 and with heels probably 5.11...and he's almost as tall as she is...

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prince Louis is only 7 years old and he's also very tall for his age...he's up to the armpit of his 6.3inch dad....

All 3 children are likely to be as tall if not taller than their already very tall parents
 
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hollydolly said:
they're not just ordinary people.. they really are not. the King ... is very far from an ordinary Person.... he really has no clue how a regular person lives...

prince Wiliam tries his best to be a 'common people person'' he learned this from Diana .. he has experienced. normal life at various periods in his life.., going to the pub as a teen at Unniversity , serving as an Air ambulance helicopter pilot, and rescuing people from various situations. Catherine grew up in a middle class household..her mother was a simple airline stewardess... and until and even after she and William married, and before they had children she still shopped for her own groceries in amongs the common people, at the regular supermarket.....

So both of them are aware and have to some extent, mixed with the ordinary joe... but surrounded as they are with riches.. never a concern about how to pay a bill.. or how to afford shoes for their kids... having chefs, and dressers... and completely surrounded by sychophants.. they unfortunately are the closest the RF will ever get to be ''normal'' people like the rest of us..
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Very well said. Add in Harry trying to break away and having a normal life with the likes of Markle but they break away but don't... Still used to those perks but sadly can't avoid the spotlight...

I wouldn't trade ny normal life for them ever even at the hardest times...

They may have had tastes of normal life but they truly can't identify with all. I feel they try, some, Diana tried, but still they can't... They hate intrusion into their life and their privacy but they don't have to worry about where the next meal or shoes are coming from...Or if they can feed their children...

I do think monarchies are ridiculous in this day in age especially in countries that are not in the dark ages.

In "Hollywood" they somewhat choose their path and publicity so they love it when they need it but hate it when it intrudes... The Royal Family isn't much different... But they come to it by birth or marriage and they alternately hate it or use it, enjoy the perks they have, or take such for granted, but hate the problems it can cause, the lack of privacy, etc. and the interest in their lives on the other hand.
 
take away all the royal families around the world and it would be a drabber and sadder place to be? They have a fantastic entertainment value and for some of us a sense of panache in a duller war-torn world!
 
smiley said:
take away all the royal families around the world and it would be a drabber and sadder place to be? They have a fantastic entertainment value and for some of us a sense of panache in a duller war-torn world!
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On the contrary. I wouldn't even miss their 'entertainment value'.
 
Charles may not be 'ordinary ' but neither was he lazy or pampered in his younger years.
Perhaps he would have liked an ordinary life.
Likewise Princess Anne who has been named "the hardest working royal"
Regimented lives...no thank you


Key Aspects of His Public Life
  • Charitable Work: He founded nearly 20 charities, including the Prince's Trust, which raises over £140 million annually. He became patron or president of over 800 organizations.
  • Environmentalism: A passionate advocate for sustainability, he spoke out about plastic pollution and environmental issues as early as 1970.
  • Military Service: He served in the Royal Navy and Royal Air Force from 1971 to 1976, following family tradition, and learned to fly helicopters.
  • Role as Prince of Wales: Invested by his mother in 1969, he took the role seriously, learning Welsh history and culture.
  • "Black Spider Memos": He was known for privately lobbying government ministers on issues like sustainability and architecture, which were later revealed in letters.
  • Public Perception: He was often viewed as outspoken in the 1980s and 90s, with some of his concerns initially dismissed before becoming widely accepted in later years.

    He has often taken a hands-on approach to his public duties, focusing on topics like architecture, rural communities, and interfaith understanding.
 
Mizmo said:
Charles may not be 'ordinary ' but neither was he lazy or pampered in his younger years.
Perhaps he would have liked an ordinary life.
Likewise Princess Anne who has been named "the hardest working royal"
Regimented lives...no thank you


Key Aspects of His Public Life
  • Charitable Work: He founded nearly 20 charities, including the Prince's Trust, which raises over £140 million annually. He became patron or president of over 800 organizations.
  • Environmentalism: A passionate advocate for sustainability, he spoke out about plastic pollution and environmental issues as early as 1970.
  • Military Service: He served in the Royal Navy and Royal Air Force from 1971 to 1976, following family tradition, and learned to fly helicopters.
  • Role as Prince of Wales: Invested by his mother in 1969, he took the role seriously, learning Welsh history and culture.
  • "Black Spider Memos": He was known for privately lobbying government ministers on issues like sustainability and architecture, which were later revealed in letters.
  • Public Perception: He was often viewed as outspoken in the 1980s and 90s, with some of his concerns initially dismissed before becoming widely accepted in later years.

    He has often taken a hands-on approach to his public duties, focusing on topics like architecture, rural communities, and interfaith understanding.
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Charles deinitely was pampered, where do you get the idea he wasn't ?

he was sent to school... his father expected him to be a ''man'' like him, and sent him to a rough tough Scottish public school ( in the US that's the same as private school) .. he was not naturally a masculine man.. and hated all the sports, at school. and sent many letters to his grandmother saying he cried himself to sleep.

After he complete the de rigeur time in the forces after leaving University.. he sent a total of 5 years in the Navy and just 10 months in command of HMS Bronington ..

Charles was incredibly pampered it's been well documented how spoiled and pampered he was.. and still is to this day....


this from the guardian back in 2002...just as an example


Even the Queen is said to regard her son's demands as 'grotesque'


https://www.google.com/preferences/source?q=theguardian.com
His lifestyle would seem extravagant to Louis XIV: a team of four valets so that one is always available to lay out and pick up his clothes; a servant to squeeze his toothpaste on to his brush, and another who once held the specimen bottle while he gave a urine sample. Step into the world of the Prince of Wales, a lifestyle so pampered that even the Queen has complained that it is grotesque.
As the storm of scandal which has engulfed the royal family since the collapse of the Paul Burrell theft trial continues unabated, attention is focusing on the vast households employed by senior royals to look after every aspect of their personal and public lives, and their role in bringing about the current crisis.


It is the 85-strong court of Prince Charles that has emerged most seriously discredited - with a growing number of MPs demanding to know how he can justify such a large staff - at least one of whom is accused of "fencing" gifts.


Charles's supporters make much of the fact that the prince does not receive money from the civil list. Instead, his twin households at St James's Palace and his Gloucestershire home, Highgrove, are financed by the lucrative estate of the Duchy of Cornwall, his birthright as the male heir to the throne. According to the duchy's latest accounts, filed in the House of Commons library, the estate made a profit of £6.9m for the year to March 31 2000, when it was valued at around £308m. The prince admits that he lives well on the profit - on which he voluntarily pays 40% tax - and saves little of it.

The biggest expenditure, according to the accounts, is the full-time domestic and office staff of around 85, whose duties range from handling contacts with the 400 organisations with whom the prince is involved, to answering the 300,000 letters he and his sons receive every year.

It his lavish domestic staff which has caused most consternation. Compared with George Smith's claims in last week's Mail on Sunday that he was raped by a member of the prince's staff, the revelation that he was one of five valets who accompanied the prince on a trip to Egypt may not have registered high on the shock scale. The number of valets has since been reduced to four - two senior, two assistant - in the spirit of royal cuts, but the central concern remains: why exactly does one man need so many people to help him get dressed? According to Ingrid Seward, editor of Majesty magazine, the answer can be found in Charles's fondness for being fussed over.

The prince often changes his clothes five times a day. The discarded outfits, including £2,000 bespoke suits and handmade Turnbull and Asser shirts, are left strewn across the floor for one of the valets to pick up. It is then their job to make sure the clothes are washed and returned to the correct place in his mahogany wardrobes. Wherever he is in the world, Charles demands that at least one of the senior valets or two of the assistants are available around the clock to prepare his wardrobe.


Picking up his clothes from the floor is not the only menial task his staff are expected to perform. It emerged this week that the prince even gets one of his valets to squeeze his toothpaste on to his toothbrush (from a crested silver dispenser), while one of the more bizarre facts to emerge from the Paul Burrell theft trial was that when the prince broke his arm he even got his then head valet, Michael Fawcett, to hold his specimen bottle.


Pampered prince puts sun king in shade
 
If you say so HD

my view is of of him as a younger man

I didn't read all of your post
Back in those days there was no Youtube but there were other such like forms of garbage information which people read.
Believe them or not.
 
Even William is baffled over the fact that Charles keeps buying up so many houses, and then rents them out. They are often at odds with one another according to those who work for both of them.
 
Mizmo said:
If you say so HD

my view is of of him as a younger man

I didn't read all of your post
Back in those days there was no Youtube but there were other such like forms of garbage information which people read.
Believe them or not.
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I didn't post a Youtbe Video..I posted a long piece from the Guardian a respected newspaper ... just one of many newspapers who have written about his pampered and spoiled ways over the years.. not only that, almost every butler and valet whose ever worked for him have told their story..the same story...

Still.. if you know better :cautious:
 
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No I don't know 'better'

I suppose I could post some horror stories about the butlers etc.. posted in the newspapers over the years
but it is not important enough to me or the subject post.
 
Nathan said:
I like Prince William for a lot of reasons, I hope he ascends to the throne and becomes King soon...
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I don't think it will be very long. I hope his youngest is a little bit older tho' before William and Catherine become King & Queen. The longer they can be parents to small children the better...
 
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Mizmo said:
No I don't know 'better'

I suppose I could post some horror stories about the butlers etc.. posted in the newspapers over the years
but it is not important enough to me or the subject post.
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..there's very few of those... I don't know why you're making an argument out of this. I have worked with the royals as has my husband .. as part of jobs in the media.. we've seen things, heard things.. and been up close and personal
 
hollydolly said:
they're not just ordinary people.. they really are not. the King ... is very far from an ordinary Person.... he really has no clue how a regular person lives...

prince Wiliam tries his best to be a 'common people person'' he learned this from Diana .. he has experienced. normal life at various periods in his life.., going to the pub as a teen at Unniversity , serving as an Air ambulance helicopter pilot, and rescuing people from various situations. Catherine grew up in a middle class household..her mother was a simple airline stewardess... and until and even after she and William married, and before they had children she still shopped for her own groceries in amongs the common people, at the regular supermarket.....

So both of them are aware and have to some extent, mixed with the ordinary joe... but surrounded as they are with riches.. never a concern about how to pay a bill.. or how to afford shoes for their kids... having chefs, and dressers... and completely surrounded by sychophants.. they unfortunately are the closest the RF will ever get to be ''normal'' people like the rest of us..
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I realize they are held with high regard and at a different standard by those of your nation. In my life I have met and interacted with persons held in such levels of esteem. I respect that and find no fault with it. The ones that I have held the highest regard for are those who occupy their station in life and still display commonality of spirit and consideration.

I once attended a quasi political meet and greet. I found myself seated next to a truly interesting couple of some years. I didn't recognize the man at first, but as our pleasant conversation continued I found that he was a former governor of our state. Despite his accomplishment and obvious stature our talk was very normal and as we shared some time I realized that he saw the real ME and allowed me to know the real HIM. I like to think that your Princess Catheryn demonstrates those qualities. Hope I'm not mistaken.
 
Because of their birth, some nutters don't like them,
I don't think that that article is fact Nathan, but their
lives are always at risk.

I, for one, hope that they all enjoy long, healthy and
happy lives.

Mike.
 
The corny background music was enough to put me off after a minute or two of this nonsense. (And why did they give their A-I an American voice?)
 
There is a strong movement in the UK against the Royal Family, and what they represent. It's all part of the "the Elites are keeping us down" mantra.

Think of that what you will.

Personally, I'm in favor, in principal, of the Royal Family. I like their history, and the history of our great nation. I don't think we have a United Kingdom without them.

That said - our King made a grave error with Lady Diana. Unforgivable really. I don't like Camilla, and I hate that she's the Kings wife. Sorry. They whole Diana thing was a travesty. It would be far better if Charles had stepped aside for William.

Then you have Andrew who is a complete train wreck. A stain on the family. It's almost beyond words.

Then you have Prince Harry, who is also intent in destroying his heritage and following his own muse. His mistakes haven't been heinous, but they've been obvious and obnoxious.
 
VaughanJB said:
There is a strong movement in the UK against the Royal Family, and what they represent. It's all part of the "the Elites are keeping us down" mantra.

Think of that what you will.

Personally, I'm in favor, in principal, of the Royal Family. I like their history, and the history of our great nation. I don't think we have a United Kingdom without them.

That said - our King made a grave error with Lady Diana. Unforgivable really. I don't like Camilla, and I hate that she's the Kings wife. Sorry. They whole Diana thing was a travesty. It would be far better if Charles had stepped aside for William.

Then you have Andrew who is a complete train wreck. A stain on the family. It's almost beyond words.

Then you have Prince Harry, who is also intent in destroying his heritage and following his own muse. His mistakes haven't been heinous, but they've been obvious and obnoxious.
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I feel exactly as you do about the Charles, Diana, Camilla situation. Can't stand Camilla and couldn't stand Charles, but I have to admit I am liking him a little better since he became king.
 
They add such good entertainment and history to the country and are I believe genuinely caring and happy to serve! - but they have made some mistakes and hope that these may one day be forgotten - some never perhaps like the death of Dianna and the schisms between Harry/Meghan and the rest of the family [no blame clause!] The next King if there is one will I think do it well and serve well. Tourism should do well out of it all!!
 
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