California exodus, curse or blessing?

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TennVet said:
California has some wonderful attributes, it also has what I view as compulsive liberalism, and taxation beyond reason. I guess it remains a somewhat less pleasant place to visit, and a definite no on my list of places to live.
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I don't know what "compulsive liberalism" is, maybe you could clarify that phrase. I think people from out-of-state get fed a lot of stereotype nonsense, that's helps them feel better about where they are from. Big city governments, no matter what state, are going to have "liberal" administrations because there are high concentrations of people to take care of. More sparsely populated rural areas run on frugal budgets because of fewer taxpayers and lower property values, hence "ya'all are on ya own".
 

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bobcat said:
It's not exactly popular in all areas of the country
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Boy isn’t that the truth unfortunately. Why some people want a monarch or dictator of some kind to swear loyalty to escapes me. That impulse should be reserved for only religion, marriage or the military, not government. (Does the phrase “Of the people, by the people, for the people” ring a familiar note?)
 
Nathan said:
I don't know what "compulsive liberalism" is, the county I live in is about as Red as Red can get, politically and culturally. There are the fascist punks running around town,flying F**K Biden flags from the bed of their pickup trucks. Nobody dares to have a Blue candidate's bumper sticker, else their car would be vandalized.
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Sounds similar to here.
 

MarkinPhx said:
It sounds like you live in an area that hasn't experienced growth. I live in an area that has experienced growth for the past 50 years (as has California by the way). And in the past few years, outside of Texas, more Californians have moved to this state than any other state. For awhile it did shake up the real estate market but I blame that more on greedy developers and the circumstances for the sudden migration here. But the housing market is leveling out now.

While at times I do think that things are getting too crowded where I live, I welcome those moving here from California, the Midwest, or anywhere else. It's a boost to the economy. And I welcome the change.


As far as the "California thing goes", people in California do not all have the same ideology. Some people I have actually met from California lean right and some lean left. A few are as religious as those I have met from the Southern Bible Belt and others aren't religious at all. Arizona is changing in an ideology way but it isn't because of the sudden influx of those from California.
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Ditto for Dallas. Texas doesn't have the beauty that California has, nor the temperate weather, but there are lots of things that are good about it. The relative cost of living, no taxes and a healthy tech industry are among them.

I had good friends who sold a spectacular home in Bell Canyon in SoCal and bought a virtual mansion north of Dallas. Their ideology was pretty far right but we have been friends for a long time and overlooked any differences we had. Others moving from California are more left leaning and I welcome their ideology as well.

I view California as a great state and people who live there have lots to be proud of.
 
Is the problem with Californians moving in that they might be liberal, or more likely that they sold their CA property and can buy up the local properties for more money. If you look at a problem, look where the buck stops. Those new folks might be similar to you, just with more $$.
 
I lived in San Diego during most of my Navy years. All of my ships were home ported there and when I transfered to shore duty, it was out on Point Loma. I really enjoyed San Diego in the 60s and early 70s.

Just before I retired I visited the City on a business trip and was shocked to see what happened to the area. WA has been overrun by California transplants which has changed Wa as well.
 
TennVet said:
California has some wonderful attributes, it also has what I view as compulsive liberalism, and taxation beyond reason. I guess it remains a somewhat less pleasant place to visit, and a definite no on my list of places to live.
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That's political. You are using this thread to promote your own political view, it's that simple. I could say more, but will abide by the rules of this forum, as you did not.
 
Nathan said:
Over the decades starting around the Great Depression and the Dustbowl people poured into California from all states, all countries to grab a share of the milk & honey. Some stay and become Californians, others grab what they could get and move on. With a Calif. state population of over 39 million, anyone that's driven California freeways would be thankful to see an exodus of people and their cars leaving the state.
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Wow, there are only 26.7 million people in all of Australia.
The land mass of Australia is about equal to that of mainland USA.
We are seriously under populated and most of that population lives around the perimeter, leaving the centre practically empty.
 
There is a vast range of types of people's lifestyles, philosophies, and political orientations in any state and that is noticeably greater in a large state like California with a significantly greater mix of higher educated immigrants and A to Z others than average. Many areas of the state have always been conservative and very much still are. It is the large urban regions where there are higher percentages of liberal progressives.

The majority are not natives but have moved here over decades as immigrants because it has become a Mecca for such more extreme lifestyles. And many criminals, leeches, and mentally ill have likewise. But so have many of the world's smartest, most educated people, especially in science and technology. So any categorization of those coming from our state to others, ought be prefixed with adjectives. For example "liberal progressive Californians" or "Orange County libertarians", or "Second generation Hispanics", etc. Otherwise, it amounts to over generalized name calling.
 
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HazyDavey said:
Or you could build a wall to keep us all out. We're coming to your neighborhood.. 😱 !!
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Llynn said:
I lived in San Diego during most of my Navy years. All of my ships were home ported there and when I transfered to shore duty, it was out on Point Loma. I really enjoyed San Diego in the 60s and early 70s.

Just before I retired I visited the City on a business trip and was shocked to see what happened to the area. WA has been overrun by California transplants which has changed Wa as well.
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I'm in the minority, but it seems the protest just proves the point. I don't mind being on my own, I learned to think for myself a long time ago.
 
They need to all leave and give the land back to the Native Americans. There is a lot of available space in Nevada.
 
Nathan said:
Well here we have our weekly California bashing thread, how nice. What's happening in your state that we can criticize? Maybe the high rate of opioid addiction? TN Faces of Opioids
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What other state can we criticize?
TA DA, Texas. Houston is still without electricity. Texas has allowed its power corporations to operate on a shoestring budget, when it comes to having adequate back up, maintenance, and power reserves. So, when a butterfly flaps its wings half of Texas is in the dark.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
What other state can we criticize?
TA DA, Texas. Houston is still without electricity. Texas has allowed its power corporations to operate on a shoestring budget, when it comes to having adequate back up, maintenance, and power reserves. So, when a butterfly flaps its wings half of Texas is in the dark.
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Rhode Island. Few people to defend it.
 
The last song of The Eagles album "Hotel California" is called the Last Resort . It is about how people moved to California and destroyed it's beauty and resources. The last lines of the song is

"You call someplace paradise
Kiss it goodbye"

Although the song was specifically about California, I think many of us can relate to those lines, no matter where we live. I often think the same about where I live too, especially when I am in a nostalgic frame of mind.
 
Nathan said:
No hard feelings here, but if people could realize that when bashing a state or city that there are people that live there that feel as loyal to their home as you do
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Just a thought had the original thread read Metropolitan area rather than naming a state it would have expressed my intended point much better. I'll try not to bruise others in the future.
 
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