Camping in your house.

old medic

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With several different threads going due to weather related issues, I wanted to toss this Idea out for folks. If you can, when conditions allow, take and turn off your power sources, and work on practicing emergency camping in your home... Not talking a few hours, although thats a start, but a weekend. Look at the issues in different seasons. For us it's not an issue, We have several totes of gear, easy to make rations, water filter, and JetBoil set up. Being prepared is the key issue, not trying to figure as you go once stuck it that position. Good Luck everyone.
 

Last December power was out for 5 days. I live in a condo and my heat didn’t work or my stove. But my refrigerator, bedroom and bathroom had power. Luckily I had space heaters and lived in my bedroom. I couldn’t run the space heater for long periods of time because I didn’t have the right cord if I wanted to use it in a room without power.

I couldn’t get out of my parking lot because of record snow and our vendor failing to come clear it. All the condos had partial power which must mean the buildings are on 2 transformers. My friend offered to come get me to stay at her house but I rather be home.

After that experience I bought 3 heavy duty extension cords made for appliances, 2 big flashlights, etc. I also bought an extra space heater.
 
I dont have to practice out here in the country there are usually several power outages each year due to winter storms or vehicles into poles when we find out which batteries have died since last time, but after years of country living I have most of it in hand.
I have several sources of heat the main back up being a wood stove but also able to run a generator to enable me to run the propane furnace and one or two other essentials if needed. I have two battery operated 110v power supplies which let me check the situation on both the TV and the internet as well as run some other stuff if needed.
As 'Old Medic' says it is a good idea to have a plan as to what you need to handle an extended power outage, I have found that knowing where you left that flashlight (which invariably will be flat when you find it after stumbling around in the dark) it is an important first step !

It sounds like a lot of folk down the east U.S. coast are getting some practice in that regard about now, stay safe folks.
 

With several different threads going due to weather related issues, I wanted to toss this Idea out for folks. If you can, when conditions allow, take and turn off your power sources, and work on practicing emergency camping in your home... Not talking a few hours, although thats a start, but a weekend. Look at the issues in different seasons. For us it's not an issue, We have several totes of gear, easy to make rations, water filter, and JetBoil set up. Being prepared is the key issue, not trying to figure as you go once stuck it that position. Good Luck everyone.

I love the idea. We will try it. Thanks! :)
 
Good idea to be prepared... absolutely. And yesterday/last night I had a trial run. :) Except for the furnace not running and the house going into the 50s, I was pretty much prepared... I have a number of long burning emergency candles and flashlights, food in the pantry that can be eaten cold, and I even had some Mylar thermal space blankets that I bought years ago. Only thing I miscalculated was not having a propane heater because the electric's usually back on in an hour or two but that is now taken care of as well.
 
I dont have to practice out here in the country there are usually several power outages each year due to winter storms or vehicles into poles when we find out which batteries have died since last time, but after years of country living I have most of it in hand.
I have several sources of heat the main back up being a wood stove but also able to run a generator to enable me to run the propane furnace and one or two other essentials if needed. I have two battery operated 110v power supplies which let me check the situation on both the TV and the internet as well as run some other stuff if needed.
As 'Old Medic' says it is a good idea to have a plan as to what you need to handle an extended power outage, I have found that knowing where you left that flashlight (which invariably will be flat when you find it after stumbling around in the dark) it is an important first step !

It sounds like a lot of folk down the east U.S. coast are getting some practice in that regard about now, stay safe folks.
On NJ's East Coast, power outages are commonplace due to the Atlantic Ocean winds always whipping around. My son is so accustomed to it, that, unless it's an extensive outage, he doesn't even bother with the generator most of the time. He disabled the automatic on it, and makes the decision himself.
 
Anyone living in earthquake country like here in coastal California, would be wise to be prepared to exist off grid for at least a week. A big quake could greatly damage power infrastructure and in older cities like San Francisco that might consume any bandwidth for fixing power for weeks.

To do so requires alternative energy sources and gear to run modern lighting, flashlights, small telecom equipment, rechargeable battery chargers, cook food, and stay warm. Of course, at least a modest supply of food and water, and fire lighting devices also. Over decades, I've extensively backpacked in wilderness, and remotely dispersed camped in my vehicles, so have gear for and am familiar with using whatever.

Although one can buy a long list of portable energy products, for short term outages, one's lead acid battery within vehicles can also be used for larger capacity electrical power as long as one can transfer such power between vehicles outdoors then into a residence indoors with intermediate power storage devices. First that requires plugs from say one's automobile cigarette and auxiliary receptacle outlets, cabling to whatever storage devices, and connector adapters for any target devices. Generally keeping one's vehicle gasoline tanks reasonably full would of course be wise as one would expect a run on gas stations and food markets that could be disrupted from resupply for weeks. And then there is TP. ;)

I own 5500 mahr, 10,000 mahr, and 40,000 mahr lithium power banks.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C2423BW9/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

For portable lighting, I own a couple rechargeable LED work Lights. A smaller unit is 3,000 lumen while the below is a bright 100 watts 8,000 lumen multi-level light with a big 4,200 mahr battery.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KYFSK94/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

For cooking that during emergencies would be done outside of residences, the classic camping standard used liquid white gas fuel in gallon cans but more recent products use canister propane gas fuel. For emergencies one needs both a stove, fuel, and actual experience using whatever.

A vehicles, AM and FM radios, can also be used for monitoring emergency information and news. Better is to also have a small portable battery operated AM/FM radio. A headlamp that frees up hands, will always be more functional for working in the dark. Also useful if all else fails are the hand crank type of emergency flashlights.
 
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With several different threads going due to weather related issues, I wanted to toss this Idea out for folks. If you can, when conditions allow, take and turn off your power sources, and work on practicing emergency camping in your home... Not talking a few hours, although thats a start, but a weekend. Look at the issues in different seasons. For us it's not an issue, We have several totes of gear, easy to make rations, water filter, and JetBoil set up. Being prepared is the key issue, not trying to figure as you go once stuck it that position. Good Luck everyone.
We had this type of experience some years back. A landslide at the south end of the highway up our valley. Power lines were down, home electrical was non existent. This was before the era of really strong LED lanterns, so we used the flashlights & battery lantern we had then, plus kerosene lamps. We had a battery radio for information, and I don't remember that our land-line phones were dysfunctional.

We could drive off our place & see friends, but couldn't get to town for any supplies. We extra-insulated our freezer, which is in our cool basement, with layers of blankets. We had a pantry full of home-canned & dried things, as well as bought canned foods, and remaining harvest of potatoes, etc. I think we prioritized eating from our fridge. Our water supply was secure, as it's gravity-feed & not dependent on electricity. We set up our propane camp stove on an outdoor table to cook or boil water.

The situation lasted about a week. We were very grateful when the power came back, but this was one more experience of being self-reliant & adaptive.
 
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Having a big portable container of water is a must. One specifically for drinking and cooking, the other for flushing the toilet.
It’s something many people forget about until they have no water.
A couple of good points for us rural folks which I have in hand but did not mention earlier, have several 5 gallon water jugs in basement and an old outhouse down the far end of the house clearing. Not sure I would want to use it about now whilst it is minus 15c out but its there if need be...
 
A couple of good points for us rural folks which I have in hand but did not mention earlier, have several 5 gallon water jugs in basement and an old outhouse down the far end of the house clearing. Not sure I would want to use it about now whilst it is minus 15c out but its there if need be...
We have a generator and a drilled well but we also have a natural spring just down the road with a hose attached for easier access. The water tastes delicious
 
After we sold our RV, I bought a small Coleman stove. So far, there’s been no need to use it (knock on wood). It sure was handy having that extra fridge & stove. In winter we have a natural fridge outside. It would be a major problem in the summer. A couple of coolers would help, if the stores had ice available.

I bought a little manual fan for $1 the other day. It’s better than nothing if the power goes in the heat of the summer.
 
With several different threads going due to weather related issues, I wanted to toss this Idea out for folks. If you can, when conditions allow, take and turn off your power sources, and work on practicing emergency camping in your home... Not talking a few hours, although thats a start, but a weekend. Look at the issues in different seasons. For us it's not an issue, We have several totes of gear, easy to make rations, water filter, and JetBoil set up. Being prepared is the key issue, not trying to figure as you go once stuck it that position. Good Luck everyone.
And if you go all-in by pitching a tent in the living room (or wherever), you can keep really warm. Propane camping heaters make a tent nice and toasty.

I used to do that with my kids when they were little...camp indoors when it was blizzardy. They loved it. We had a 2-man tent that I bought at a military surplus store, but since the kids were little, we all fit just fine.
 
It's just smart to be prepared a bit

We have a generator and a three burner propane camp stove
And a little buddy heater
Only 6 20lb tanks, however

Camping?
Heh, we did that for years up at our off grid cabin

Funny thing
We'd get a call from a guy down the path, saying his power was out, and was ours
We had no idea of power outages, as our power was from gas generators
 
It's just smart to be prepared a bit

We have a generator and a three burner propane camp stove
And a little buddy heater
Only 6 20lb tanks, however

Camping?
Heh, we did that for years up at our off grid cabin

Funny thing
We'd get a call from a guy down the path, saying his power was out, and was ours
We had no idea of power outages, as our power was from gas generators
There were a few winters during my cabin life when we had firewood shortages. Forest rangers severely limited how many and what kinds of trees we could cut, fallen or not, and cords in town sold out fast.

But, there's always a way to stay warm..and to cook as well. (re: comment #17)
 
With several different threads going due to weather related issues, I wanted to toss this Idea out for folks. If you can, when conditions allow, take and turn off your power sources, and work on practicing emergency camping in your home... Not talking a few hours, although thats a start, but a weekend. Look at the issues in different seasons. For us it's not an issue, We have several totes of gear, easy to make rations, water filter, and JetBoil set up. Being prepared is the key issue, not trying to figure as you go once stuck it that position. Good Luck everyone.
Well I don't have to "practice" for an emergency during a storm and cold temps in the house. Went through it after Superstorm Sandy when we had no electricity for a week. I tried different things to heat parts of the house, even to heat food but they were not sustainable options. Finally, my honorary daughter #1 (who became my DIL) invited me to stay at her apartment after 3 days. I guess if it's extremely hot, I'll keep drinking cold stuff, eat some ice cream and take a cold shower. :D We keep stocked with just about everything we could possibly need. And if we're "camping" at home, wouldn't that be considered "glamping" :unsure:
 
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There were a few winters during my cabin life when we had firewood shortages. Forest rangers severely limited how many and what kinds of trees we could cut, fallen or not, and cords in town sold out fast.
We were quite fortunate that most our trees were lodgepole pine.
Not natural to our area (loggers stripped the area of ponderosa back in the '50s)
The rangers didn't seem to care how many we fell, but we mostly cut up fallen trees

And we maintained our stock of wood
14 cord
And kept it rotated, as far as curing

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The only heat we needed up there

And that earth stove rocked
Get a good bed of coals
Fill it about an hour before bedtime
Damp it down at bedtime
Open the window at the head of the bed
Sweet sweet mountain air sleep

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As far as indoor tents, good idea...heating a smaller area

Another reason for a small cabin

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We were quite fortunate that most our trees were lodgepole pine.
Not natural to our area (loggers stripped the area of ponderosa back in the '50s)
The rangers didn't seem to care how many we fell, but we mostly cut up fallen trees

And we maintained our stock of wood
14 cord
And kept it rotated, as far as curing

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The only heat we needed up there

And that earth stove rocked
Get a good bed of coals
Fill it about an hour before bedtime
Damp it down at bedtime
Open the window at the head of the bed
Sweet sweet mountain air sleep

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As far as indoor tents, good idea...heating a smaller area

Another reason for a small cabin

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Yeah, I don't know why our rangers got so stingy about the wood. Especially fallen trees. But the BMI came down hard on forest services in the Sierras those few years with a long list of new restrictions and regulations.

Maybe the BMI was getting pressure from the EPA or Sierra Pacific Ind., or the lumber mills, or all 3. You weren't even allowed to top any of the pines at Christmas time...didn't matter what kind. And nobody knew (or would say) what was going on. The mills and SPI lost millions in revenue those 3 years, people lost their jobs, and all we had was rumors.

It was a mess.

(this was up in and around Susanville, Chester, Jonesville, CA...all that whole area. Well, the whole mountain range, of course, but it hit the village populations really hard.)
 
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Two things that I remember a gentleman telling me was (1) We don't plan to fail, but we fail to plan & (2) Experience is something we get shortly after we needed it.

When we built our house in the country, we decided it wasn't going to be 100% electric. We chose LP gas for the furnace, flash hot water heater & cook stove. Our back up heat for winter is a wood burning stove which we can also cook on. Right now it's burning very nicely.
We also use it to cut back on the LP gas bills when the temps drop like now. Firewood comes from our woods. We get enough downed trees from nature that we don't have to cut them. Most now are from the Emerald Ash boar.

We finally got a generator when Hurricane Ike hit in Sept. 2008. We were without power from Sunday afternoon to Friday night. Now it will run the fridges, freezer, well pump & a few lights in the basement. Every season we start it up & make sure it's running properly.

The main lighting my family used since I was a kid when the power went out have been Aladdin oil lamps. I have a few other oil lamps, but nothing beats the Aladdin for brightness & the heat they put off (for winter). One fill on these lasts for about 12 hours. According to their website, Aladdin oil lasts indefinitely & what I have had for about 8 years burns quite well. They also will use kerosene if necessary, but you have to change the wicks if you change the fuel. They aren't cheap now-a-days, but well worth the money for at least one.

The other oil lamps are working antiques from my Grandma & ones I picked up from Walmart (Lamplighter Farms). Also have Dietz lanterns which are great for lighting up the porch at night, winter or summer. We have a few lanterns, LED flashlights & radios that run off of batteries.

I'm always looking for new ideas that someone else may have to make things better. It's also important to keep up on your stock so you can add or replace things too.
 
Funny thing
We'd get a call from a guy down the path, saying his power was out, and was ours
We had no idea of power outages, as our power was from gas generators
We have had the same issue here... We are still living in a camper, and although we are hooked to the power, Most everything in it is run on 12 Volts. Even have the entertainment circuit is run off an inverter so TV DVD all works. If the power goes out, we only lose the AC/Microwave in the camper, and power to the well, but he pressure tank still will have about 10 gallons of water. More than once we've been sitting here and hear a "BEEP" and notice the microwave clock flashing...
 
With several different threads going due to weather related issues, I wanted to toss this Idea out for folks. If you can, when conditions allow, take and turn off your power sources, and work on practicing emergency camping in your home... Not talking a few hours, although thats a start, but a weekend. Look at the issues in different seasons. For us it's not an issue, We have several totes of gear, easy to make rations, water filter, and JetBoil set up. Being prepared is the key issue, not trying to figure as you go once stuck it that position. Good Luck everyone.
We were under severe winter storm but temps going back up now. Yesterday it dawned on me with all the ice on the house that I could lose power. I didn't have to stress it at the old house because it had a built in generator. I'm going to look into a rechargeable generator. I have rechargeable bulbs for light and can charge my phone and laptop in the truck if need be. I also have a jetpack for Internet if it goes down. I had to have it when I worked from home.
 


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