Canada banned all handgun sales

senior chef said:
Ok, your country, your rules. However, if a thug tried to break into my RV in the middle of the night, while I was traveling in Canada, I'd be completely helpless without a gun.
Perhaps you believe there are no thugs in Canada ?
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Helpless without a gun? Try the Canadian traditional stand by...A hockey stick. Or a baseball bat. Of course we have criminals in Canada. So does every other country in the world. The difference is in how we deal with them here. JimB.
 
senior chef said:
I had a similar incident in 1996. I had been driving with my RV across the northern U.S. and I decided to cut across Canada at the Detroit/U.S. border to see the sights and see Niagra Falls. There was a sign at Canadian customs to declare any firearms. Since I often had camped at some very lonely spots, I had a hand gun hidden in the RV for self protection and I reported it to them.

The Canadian customs really made a big deal about my pistol. Together, we went into the Rv and I was about to fetch it from it's hiding place when the agent said, "STOP ! Don't touch it " He acted like I might shoot him . He wanted to confiscate it , and gave me a big lecture saying that it was illegal in the U.S. to transport guns. He did not like it one bit when i told him, "Wrong ! As long as no driver/passenger can access it while moving, it is perfectly legal. " He said you may not enter Canada with any gun. I replied, "Ok, fine. Put the gun back in it's hiding place and I'll go back into the U.S. Which I did.
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From what I've read, in the U.S., having a gun in your vehicle is under the same laws as having one in your house. You can conceal it, have it in the open, have it in your hand, and that's all perfectly legal. I guess it depends on the state, though.
 

jimintoronto said:
Helpless without a gun? Try the Canadian traditional stand by...A hockey stick. Or a baseball bat. Of course we have criminals in Canada. So does every other country in the world. The difference is in how we deal with them here. JimB.
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LOL - a hockey stick or baseball bat. No one except me decides how I protect myself & when it comes to my safety (or the safety of my loved ones,) I choose what is most effective. If sticks or bats were effective self defense, police would not bother with firearms.
A hockey stick or baseball bat is the type of object I would hope my adversary has; it would ensure that he would lose.
 
senior chef said:
Ok, your country, your rules. However, if a thug tried to break into my RV in the middle of the night, while I was traveling in Canada, I'd be completely helpless without a gun.
Perhaps you believe there are no thugs in Canada ?
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All "Holier Than Thous" & "Mine's better'n yours" believe whatever fits their narrative & makes them feel superior.
 
SeniorBen said:
From what I've read, in the U.S., having a gun in your vehicle is under the same laws as having one in your house. You can conceal it, have it in the open, have it in your hand, and that's all perfectly legal. I guess it depends on the state, though.
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A gun in your house has 4th AM protection. A gun in a car has diminished protection under the "Automobile exception" to the warrant/seizure requirement.
 
jimintoronto said:
Helpless without a gun? Try the Canadian traditional stand by...A hockey stick. Or a baseball bat. Of course we have criminals in Canada. So does every other country in the world. The difference is in how we deal with them here. JimB.
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Great post.
I thought hand guns were always banned within Canada. It just shows how much I don’t know about our laws. Lol
 
Michael Z said:
Don’t have a handgun myself, but if my daughter was being stalked, I would want her to conceal and carry. I think if someone has a pressing reason for self defense, they should have that right.
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I think a lot, maybe a majority, of Americans would agree with you. However I am not sure that makes a person any safer, there are hazardous associated with carrying a gun, everything from unintentionally falling into the wrong hands to the increased risk due to pulling it out and/or incompetent use. I suspect this only makes those who are highly trained, like the police, any safer.

However I know this is just my belief, and I could be wrong. I have done some research and you can find lots of studies that come down both ways on this. I know it's a very politically charged issue, but good unbiased data would be very helpful to us all. Unfortunately from what I can tell that just isn't out there.

I've gotten rid of my handguns, and keep my long guns locked away and no ammunition in the house. Never carried a gun, except when hunting, or target practicing.
 
SeniorBen said:
Canada's new nationwide handgun sales ban went into effect Friday.

The ban will bar anyone from buying, selling or transferring handguns within Canada, and it will stop people from bringing new handguns into the country, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said in an announcement.
https://www.axios.com/2022/10/22/canada-handgun-sales-ban-rules

Canada doesn't have a Constitutional right to own guns.
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Having heard the news from the US today, I am really thankful for our Prime Minister!



"Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is placing a nationwide freeze on the sale, purchase and transfer of handguns, effective immediately.

The handgun freeze is the latest in an ongoing battle among Canadian lawmakers over gun control measures. In parliament, legislators are still debating the passage of a bill, introduced in May, that would be one of the strongest pieces of gun control legislation in decades. The new handgun freeze is an "immediate action" the Trudeau administration said it is taking as conversation around the bill continues.

"When people are being killed, when people are being hurt, responsible leadership requires us to act," Trudeau said at a news conference on Friday, announcing the new measure. "Recently again, we have seen too many examples of horrific tragedies involving firearms.""
 
Alligatorob said:
I think a lot, maybe a majority, of Americans would agree with you. However I am not sure that makes a person any safer, there are hazardous associated with carrying a gun, everything from unintentionally falling into the wrong hands to the increased risk due to pulling it out and/or incompetent use. I suspect this only makes those who are highly trained, like the police, any safer.

However I know this is just my belief, and I could be wrong. I have done some research and you can find lots of studies that come down both ways on this. I know it's a very politically charged issue, but good unbiased data would be very helpful to us all. Unfortunately from what I can tell that just isn't out there.

I've gotten rid of my handguns, and keep my long guns locked away and no ammunition in the house. Never carried a gun, except when hunting, or target practicing.
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I admire you, AB. You are one of the, if not the, most sensible and level headed posters I've ever encountered since algore invented the internet. You continually dish out common sense, and level headedness on every topic. You don't rise to take the stinky bait and show respect and empathy for all views, especially the ones you don't agree with. I strive to be like you irl and on the net; however I mostly come up short. I would like to buy you an adult beverage some day if you happen to make your way narth to Idaho. In the meantime, cheers!!!
 
I have owned guns most of my life, but I am open minded on the issue. I'm more philosophically minded these days.
I agree with the adage that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
A great deal of people will hold onto a belief no matter what the evidence is because they have an agenda. I think there is a big difference between sound reason and reasons that sound good. If something works well in another country, and it's not working here, then it would be very unwise of me to ignore it. If it works for them, then it's not a crazy idea. Time will tell.
 
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