Canada Legalizes Marijuana

[Camper6]

From the website:

Cannabis, like alcohol and tobacco, poses a number of health risks.
You should not use cannabis if you are pregnant or breastfeeding. It poses a risk to the fetus or new born child. Heavy cannabis use has been linked to lower birth weight. There may also be other health risks associated with cannabis use during pregnancy and breastfeeding.
At any age, cannabis use affects the way the brain functions. This includes impacts on:

• attention
• memory
• learning

The brain does not stop developing until around age 25. The younger you are when you begin cannabis use and the more often and the longer you use it, the more likely that it will have a bigger impact on your brain.

 

[Keesha]

They don't allow smoking in the casino I go to. They do serve alcohol. The price of a beer is three times what you would be able to buy it for at a liquor store or grocery store.

They have darn good food and they give discounts on it. So your claim of insanity doesn't ring a bell.

My advice. Don't go to a casino. You might get addicted to gambling.

My point being that you stated that you HATE being around alcohol yet visit a casino. I’d never get addicted to gambling.
Its not my thing.

 

[Camper6]

Camper, it's really funny how you are accusing everyone else of "missing the point!" Very clearly, that's what you are doing.

Do you really want to discuss this very legitimate issue, or are you just trying to provoke a fight? Sounds to me more like the latter. (And here I thought all you Canadians were so nice!) :distrust:

Missing the point is hardly a provocative phrase.

 

[Camper6]

My point being that you stated that you HATE being around alcohol yet visit a casino. I’d never get addicted to gambling.
Its not my thing.

If you have never gone, then you don't know if you would get addicted. It wasn't my thing either. Just look at how many casinos there are now. They are making money obviously so it must be addictive.

I know what your point was and I explained it to you what the difference was between what you stated and actual reality about smoking and drinking.

 

[Camper6]

My point being that you stated that you HATE being around alcohol yet visit a casino. I’d never get addicted to gambling.
Its not my thing.

Smoking is not allowed and alcohol is not a big thing in casinos because it's too expensive.

The draw is gambling. It's addictive. That's why people go.

 

[Keesha]

There ARE laws against smoking cigarettes in cars. You are not allowed to smoke anything in a car with children in it and the fines are HUGE.




I doubt that is accurate. The long term effects on the lungs is the same as smoking.




They will do both. They are doing both now. I doubt there wiill be less violence and deaths. States that have legalized marijuana haven't seen a decrease in crime.


In spite of the laws, young people under age will use it?



Yes we know that. But making it legal makes it easier to get.




Legallizing marijuana is not going to stop that for underage children.




The dealers will be selling stuff with higher THC levels. More bang for the buck.



I'm not interested. Sucking stuff into your lungs and impairing your brain is harmful regardless of your high standards. The only thing that works is not smoking it in the first place.



Wait. I thought someone here posted that there is not one recorded death due to marijuana.


Enforcement will be a nightmare and suck more of our police resources?




Not according to the police. That's your opinion. They will still have to enforce the law.



That's not a logical reply. They are against it for a reason.


We are dumbing down Canada?


There are studies that support my contention.
In today's mail from the government announcing the Cannabis Act. Here's what you need to know.

Know the health effects. Like alcohol and tobacco, cannabis has risks, especially for youth and young adults.
www.Canada.ca/Cannabis






And your point is exactly what?




It hasn't been put into effect yet so how do you know that? If you think cannabis is going to save Canada from debt you are whistling in the dark.

I'm starting to wonder now on this thread who are the users now.

The ladies doth protest too much.

Wrong again. The long term effects of smoking marijuana are NOT even close to the same as smoking marijuana. Tobacco causes cancer. Nicotine is filled with addictive additives that are cancer causing. Marijuana has anti cancer causing properties and not everybody smokes it like we did in high school.


How do you know people are doing both?
Are you a professional councillor ?




Yes in spite of the the law young people will use it which they would do anyway. The difference being that the chances of them having clean ,unaltered cannabis is greatly improved .


Exactly Camper. Legalizing cannabis isn’t going to stop kids from doing it. Newsflash! Nothing will.


Kids will try it and like most people it will be a one time deal. They most likely won’t like it but at least they won’t die from a fentanyl overdose.


The dealers will be selling stuff with higher THC?


What has that got to do with legalization?
Dealers were already selling strains with higher THC percentages because they are available and always have been. Legalization has NOTHING to do with that.


Camper? Why do you assume all users are just smoking it and ruining their lungs?
You’ve got a fixed perception of cannabis that is so rigid and outdated that your points are no longer even valid. You may want to educate yourself a bit more on the subject.


Again! Newsflash ! Artificial marijuana IS NOT REAL. It DOES cause deaths. Read carefully.
Real marijuana causes NO deaths. You read that right.

That’s not a logical reply?
Neither are any of yours but it doesn’t stop you from expressing them.


Yes there was a notice in the mail that cannabis has risks. Isn’t that responsibly of our government to send out this flyer to let us all know what they are? As a ‘responsible’ adult we have a CHOICE!


Alcohol has risks and side effects but people still use it. Other drugs , that are legal , have risks and side effects yet people still take them.


Your point is????


There are side effects with everything.
There are side effects from over the counter drugs . There are side effects from foods. There are long listed side effects from prescription drugs. Some of them being death yet they are prescribed daily with no consideration at all.


Canada is in debt. The cannabis industry is a multi billion dollar industry. Surely you can connect the dots!!! But if not :laugh:
I’ll repeat it again. It will help our economy greatly. I didn’t say it was going to instantly fix our deficit and it most certainly will help.


Yes I’m a user Camper. I’ve been using since 1976. I’m legal and have been for many years now. I grow my own cannabis and make my own cannabis products because I can. I’m allowed and have ZERO shame.


The ladies doth protest too much???
Darn right we protest. Thank heavens for the bold brave women but I’d like to point out that you’ve been protesting this entire time too. Is it that your protests are acceptable and ours aren’t? :shrug:


What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.
Cannabis plants

Cannabis Buds

Cannabis Butter

Cannabis Cookies






I’m proud of the fact that I’m on one prescription only that helps relieve my anxiety, treat my P.T.S.D., my insomnia, depression, nausea, panic attacks, pain from arthritis etc. It might not be conventional medicine but some people prefer using holistic methods and the CHOICE should be ours to make. I resent being told by a government how I ‘should’ care for my mind and body. It’s not their right. It’s mine. As long as I’m not a danger to myself or others then it’s nobodys business but my own.

 

[Camper6]

Cut it any way you want. It's not healthy and it affects the brain.

 

[Keesha]

Who says it’s not healthy? Are you a doctor?
If it’s not healthy then why are doctors prescribing it ?

 

[Lara]

Hard drugs affect our brain negatively, not medical cannabis. It's healthy and the proof is in Keesha's healthy strong long fingernails (see pics above) :thumbsup: Seriously, nails tell us a lot about many levels of our health condition.

 

[Camper6]

Who says it’s not healthy? Are you a doctor?

If it’s not healthy then why are doctors prescribing it ?

No I'm not a doctor. Do I have to be a chef to recognize a good meal? I can only go by what I read in scientific journals and even the Canada website provided with my mail in. If it has health risks then it's not healthy.

Doctors are prescribing it as a medical drug to alleviate pain\ mainly because the patient requests it. They don't prescribe it for everyone. It doesn't work in every patient.

That doesn't make it healthy because of side effects.

And sucking smoke into your lungs is not healthy ever and I don't care what kind of smoke it is.


Call it what it is. A recreational drug. People smoke it because they get a high from it.

www.Canada.ca/Cannabis

The province of Quebec will raise the age that it can be bought and consumed to 21 from 18.

 

[Camper6]

My point being that you stated that you HATE being around alcohol yet visit a casino. I’d never get addicted to gambling.
Its not my thing.

I never stated I HATE being around alcohol. What I said was that alcohol is not the drawing card and alcohol is three times more expensive.

The drawing card at a casino is the gambling and the food.

It's a form of entertainment if you don't get carried away.

 

[Keesha]

Cut it any way you want. It's not healthy and it affects the brain.

I will ask again. How do you know? Better yet, what qualifications do you have to state such things.?

Who says it’s not healthy? Are you a doctor?
If it’s not healthy then why are doctors prescribing it ?

Are you a doctor or a councillor?

No! You aren’t. You are just somebody who has had experience with it in the past who also has control issues.
You gambled once and now can’t control yourself. MOST people have FAR more control and will power than this Camper.

Hard drugs affect our brain negatively, not medical cannabis. It's healthy and the proof is in Keesha's healthy strong long fingernails (see pics above) :thumbsup: Seriously, nails tell us a lot about many levels of our health condition.

I am incredibly healthy. I’m almost 59 and have been using for almost 43 years now.
My heart rate is well below 60 beats per minute, my blood pressure is better than optimal , my bad cholesterol level is optimal. All my blood work comes back negative with no problems whatsoever.

I do half an hour of yoga every morning, walk anywhere from 3 or 4 miles to 8 per day, care for our home, family and large property on my own, and don’t drink or take any illegal drugs.
I not only grow my own cannabis but also grow other herbs and vegetables which I use in my diet for optimum health. I literally could run circles around the lot of you.

Each year I help my husband cut and chop 4 chords of wood. Most of you won’t know how much wood that is but it’s about the equivalent to about 20 to 25 average size trees and we don’t use a wood splitter. We do it all manually.

For someone who has destroyed their mind using cannabis for almost their entire life I did manage to get a degree in biology, a course in nutrition, two courses in healing with herbs to become a qualified nutritionist and while I can’t prescribe marijuana I most certainly am educated enough to suggest using it.

I see the positive effects on some of my most severely PTSD affected veteran clients. Before taking marijuana, many were overprescribed toxic cocktails of pharmaceuticals prescribed by doctors who did not understand how to treat their trauma. They could barely function, if at all. Now, most of them require only a small quantity of such pills, if any. This definitely brings a greater sense of peace and harmony to both these vets, and those whose lives they touch.

Shalimar has a degree in psychology. She might not be qualified to write prescriptions but most certainly is qualified to suggest using it if she feels her patients would benefit from it.

What qualifications does Camper have?
Nada! ZERO! None!
Hes just a disgruntled citizen who’s flapping off because he doesn’t like it yet isn’t educated enough to make any substantial claims against it.

Well tough! Get in line with the others who are sulking and complaining because once or twice when they used it as a kid they got all chitfaced and couldn’t handle it so figure it’s got THAT effect on EVERYONE!

NEWS FLASH again. It doesn’t. You are WRONG!

And thanks for the compliment Lara. You’re so darn cute I could kiss you :thankyou:

 

[Keesha]

I never stated I HATE being around alcohol. What I said was that alcohol is not the drawing card and alcohol is three times more expensive.

The drawing card at a casino is the gambling and the food.

It's a form of entertainment if you don't get carried away.

And a place where most people drink in excess, gamble their money away and then drive home but luckily there is NOTHING wrong with their brains :shrug:
I rest my case. :lofl:

 

[Lara]

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In the spirit of some somewhat needed levity,
"I interrupt this program for a Special Report".
Fittingly, for this thread, it's currently the...
40th Anniversary Cheech & Chong's movie and song, "Up in Smoke". :cool1:artytime:

They'll always "keep 'em laughing" from their Low-Rider automobile "The Love Machine" (and song by the same name).

Of note: "Reefer Madness" is a 1936 movie that helped lead to the first federal laws criminalizing marijuana.

 

[Trade]

And a place where most people drink in excess, gamble their money away and then drive home but luckily there is NOTHING wrong with their brains :shrug:
I rest my case. :lofl:

I've been in a casino one time in my life.

I was 15 at the time.

My mother and I were staying in this cheesy motel in Tahoe. She was hoping to get a job out there and improve our lives, but that didn't work out.

On the nightstand was a complementary roll of nickels with the name of a casino on the wrapper.

When I was by myself in the room I took the 2 bucks in nickels and went out and walked into the first casino that I came to and started playing the slots.

I remember I started out winning and got a couple of bucks to the good.

Should have quit then, but I didn't. I started losing and soon lost all my winnings, and then the $2 in nickels that came with the room.

About that time this dude walked up to me and said one word, "Identification"?

To which I replied something like "Huh?"

So he elaborated with "Are you 21?"

I was big for my age but no way did I look 21, so I said "No"

And he said "Then ýou are going to have to leave".

And I did.

So that was my one and only casino experience.

Should have just kept the 2 bucks in nickels. It would have paid for a good chunk of that cheesy motel bill, which I doubt was more than 5 or 6 bucks a night.

 

[ClassicRockr]

On CBS Sunday Morning, this morning, on their Weekly Calendar, they mentioned about Canada's Recreational Marijuana upcoming legalization.

 

[Camper6]

I will ask again. How do you know? Better yet, what qualifications do you have to state such things.?

The only qualifications I have is the ability to read. If the ones that are in charge of making the rules state that there are health risks then I believe it.

Are you a doctor or a councillor?

No! You aren’t. You are just somebody who has had experience with it in the past who also has control issues.
You gambled once and now can’t control yourself. MOST people have FAR more control and will power than this Camper.

That's the nature of addiction. Yes I know. And most people have far more control of their temper than what I read here.

I am incredibly healthy. I’m almost 59 and have been using for almost 43 years now.
My heart rate is well below 60 beats per minute, my blood pressure is better than optimal , my bad cholesterol level is optimal. All my blood work comes back negative with no problems whatsoever.

Your personal experience means nothing. How do you know you wouldn't be even healthier if you have never used anything.

I do half an hour of yoga every morning, walk anywhere from 3 or 4 miles to 8 per day, care for our home, family and large property on my own, and don’t drink or take any illegal drugs.
I not only grow my own cannabis but also grow other herbs and vegetables which I use in my diet for optimum health. I literally could run circles around the lot of you.

Well you are taking illegal drugs if you use marijuana.

Each year I help my husband cut and chop 4 chords of wood. Most of you won’t know how much wood that is but it’s about the equivalent to about 20 to 25 average size trees and we don’t use a wood splitter. We do it all manually.

So what? What does that prove? If you didn't indulge maybe you could cut and chop 6 cords.

For someone who has destroyed their mind using cannabis for almost their entire life I did manage to get a degree in biology, a course in nutrition, two courses in healing with herbs to become a qualified nutritionist and while I can’t prescribe marijuana I most certainly am educated enough to suggest using it.

You only have one problem. You are a bit on the crabby side.

Shalimar has a degree in psychology. She might not be qualified to write prescriptions but most certainly is qualified to suggest using it if she feels her patients would benefit from it.

That also means zilch. I'm telling you it has health risks. Would you take it if you were pregnant?

What qualifications does Camper have?
Nada! ZERO! None!
Hes just a disgruntled citizen who’s flapping off because he doesn’t like it yet isn’t educated enough to make any substantial claims against it.

Well I have never smoked cigarettes or marijuana and I'm 85 years of age and healthy. I was an accountant and I have a good memory. Apparently it affects the brain so perhaps if I had indulged I wouldn't have a good memory. I am educated enough to make substantial claims against it. I read the warnings and the risks posted at www.Canada.ca/Cannabis. You should try it.


W

ell tough! Get in line with the others who are sulking and complaining because once or twice when they used it as a kid they got all chitfaced and couldn’t handle it so figure it’s got THAT effect on EVERYONE!

NEWS FLASH again. It doesn’t. You are WRONG!

I'm not wrong about one thing. The ones that claim that cannabis settles you down and makes you peaceful are wrong and that's obvious after reading the comments here.

 

[Camper6]

And a place where most people drink in excess, gamble their money away and then drive home but luckily there is NOTHING wrong with their brains :shrug:
I rest my case. :lofl:

And the ones that smoke marijuana do exactly the same thing but there is something wrong with their brains.

 

[Trade]

The only qualifications I have is the ability to read. If the ones that are in charge of making the rules state that there are health risks then I believe it.

That's the nature of addiction. Yes I know. And most people have far more control of their temper than what I read here.




Your personal experience means nothing. How do you know you wouldn't be even healthier if you have never used anything.


Well you are taking illegal drugs if you use marijuana.



So what? What does that prove? If you didn't indulge maybe you could cut and chop 6 cords.



You only have one problem. You are a bit on the crabby side.



That also means zilch. I'm telling you it has health risks. Would you take it if you were pregnant?



Well I have never smoked cigarettes or marijuana and I'm 85 years of age and healthy. I was an accountant and I have a good memory. Apparently it affects the brain so perhaps if I had indulged I wouldn't have a good memory. I am educated enough to make substantial claims against it. I read the warnings and the risks posted at www.Canada.ca/Cannabis. You should try it.


W

I'm not wrong about one thing. The ones that claim that cannabis settles you down and makes you peaceful are wrong and that's obvious after reading the comments here.

This one is for you dude. :bigwink:

 

[Camper6]

Every time cannabis is used it can:


Impair your ability to drive safely or operate equipment. Cannabis can slow reaction times, lower your ability to pay attention, and harm coordination.Footnote 1 Using cannabis and driving can result in a car accident, serious injuries or death.
Make it harder to learn and remember things. After using cannabis, you may have problems paying attention, remembering or learning things, and making decisions.Footnote 2 Using cannabis can reduce your ability to perform well on the job or at school.
Affect mood and feelings. Cannabis use can cause anxiety or panic.Footnote 2
Affect mental health. Cannabis can trigger a psychotic episode (not knowing what is real, experiencing paranoia, having disorganized thoughts, and in some cases having hallucinations).Footnote 2


How can cannabis affect young people’s health?
Cannabis use that begins early in adolescence, that is frequent and that continues over time is more likely to bring about harms. Some of those harms may never fully go away.


Youth are especially vulnerable to the effects of cannabis, as research shows the brain is not fully developed until around age 25. This is because THC, the substance which gives the “high” in cannabis, affects the same machinery in the brain that directs brain development.Footnote 6 The higher the amount of THC in cannabis, the more likely one is to be harmed by it.


Cannabis, like alcohol and tobacco, poses a number of health risks.


You should not use cannabis if you are pregnant or breastfeeding. It poses a risk to the fetus or new born child. Heavy cannabis use has been linked to lower birth weight. There may also be other health risks associated with cannabis use during pregnancy and breastfeeding.


At any age, cannabis use affects the way the brain functions. This includes impacts on:


attention
memory
learning
The brain does not stop developing until around age 25. The younger you are when you begin cannabis use and the more often and the longer you use it, the more likely that it will have a bigger impact on your brain.

 

[Olivia]

Anything can be unhealthy, depending on how you use it.

 

[Shalimar]

Anything can be unhealthy, depending on how you use it.

Absolutely.

 

[Camper6]

When I was a kid old people like you used to give me a case of the ass.

But now that I'm old too, you know what?

They still do. :tongue:

Who are you trying to kid? You still act like a child.

 

[Camper6]

Camper, your point isn't going over anyone's head here. It is faulty logic.

If marijuana is illegal in Canada, according to you, no one will use it, correct? There will be no impaired drivers, etc. Everyone will be squeaky clean.

We all know how well that works.

Smoking pot (or anything else) is a bad idea, as far as I know. But some people are going to smoke it regardless. Drinking alcohol causes endless tragedies in personal lives, yet some people (probably most people) drink it. When they tried to enact prohibition in the U.S., it was a complete disaster. People who wanted to drink didn't stop drinking, they just visited the speakeasies.

Isn't it better to have the pot smoking legal and out in the open, where at least the quality is under government control, than to have a black market, with criminals running the empire?

We have alcohol out in the open and the quality is under government control.

What has it done for us?

 

[Trade]

You still act like a child.

Yeah!

Awesome ain't it?

:bigwink: