Chauvin pleads guilty to federal Civil rights charges

It never fails to surprise me when the American media state the colour of a victim or criminal... as in that link where they state Chauvin is white... and his victim was Black

I can't remember ever seeing our media stating someone's colour when reporting on a crime committed here .. the only time would be if they were reporting a crime committed in the USA and took the story directly from an American news agency...or if it was a crime committed due to someone's colour.....otherwise generally here.. unless we are to see pictures of the victims or the perpetrator we wouldn't know what colour they were...simply because really people are just people here... regardless of creed or colour
 
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But the federal crime charged was specifically due to Floyd being African American!

18 USC (United States Code) 242

Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or to different punishments, pains, or penalties, on account of such person being an alien, or by reason of his color, or race, than are prescribed for the punishment of citizens, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; --------
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hollydolly said:
It never fails to surprise me when the American media state the colour of a victim or criminal... as in that link where they state Chauvin is white... and his victim was Black
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In my opinion it is by design. Unfortunately it seems that these days in the U.S. hate and discontent is what makes the big bucks. Exploiting any opportunity to create that hate and discontent keeps the cash flowing....:(
 
Bretrick said:
That is really an unwarranted statement. Imagine how she must feel and how she would feel if she read this.
I am sure she has received much unwarranted hate mail.
For what? Having a child?
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If you watched his mother testify at her son's sentencing hearing (as I did), you would have a better understanding.
If she received hate mail, she earned it.
She talked about how wonderful her son is.
The rotten apple fell close to the rotten tree.
 
win231 said:
If you watched his mother testify at her son's sentencing hearing (as I did), you would have a better understanding.
If she received hate mail, she earned it.
She talked about how wonderful her son is.
The rotten apple fell close to the rotten tree.
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Exactly. She claimed he was so wonderful even though he had previously committed similar crimes against blacks and got off scot free. The SOB deserves the hangman's noose.
 
Did he take a plea deal by pleading guilty? That would get him fewer years in prison. Not sure why else he would have done it, other than the evidence against him!
 
dseag2 said:
Did he take a plea deal by pleading guilty? That would get him fewer years in prison. Not sure why else he would have done it, other than the evidence against him! Nu
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Yea, the article said he plead guilty to receive a lesser sentence than the law allowed.
 
hollydolly said:
It never fails to surprise me when the American media state the colour of a victim or criminal... as in that link where they state Chauvin is white... and his victim was Black

I can't remember ever seeing our media stating someone's colour when reporting on a crime committed here .. the only time would be if they were reporting a crime committed in te USA and took the story directly from an American news agency...or if it was a crime committed due to someone's colour.....otherwise generally here.. unless we are to see pictures of the victims or the perpetrator we wouldn't know what colour they were...simply because really people are just people here... regardless of creed or colour
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Hear hear! It's the same over here, no one mentions the colour.
 
ohioboy said:
He would have been convicted anyway. Just think, one morning he woke up a big bad police officer, but he wasn't when he went to bed!

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nati...0211215-rcizcmmvq5dzdmqushmhqshh74-story.html
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I'll leave his guilt and punishment up to the court, but it is curious that dozens of police officers die at the hands of criminals every year, and yet their deaths don't receive so much as one tenth of 1% of the attention of Floyd's demise. Why is that?
 
ElCastor said:
I'll leave his guilt and punishment up to the court, but it is curious that dozens of police officers die at the hands of criminals every year, and yet their deaths don't receive so much as one tenth of 1% of the attention of Floyd's demise. Why is that?
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Because a police officer getting murdered is rarely captured on a bystanders
Cellphone video that widely circulates over and over. Also, unless a well known media gets the story for nationwide viewing, it's simply a local/state thing. However, there are news stories locally about an officer being murdered out of state.
 
ElCastor said:
I'll leave his guilt and punishment up to the court, but it is curious that dozens of police officers die at the hands of criminals every year, and yet their deaths don't receive so much as one tenth of 1% of the attention of Floyd's demise. Why is that?
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Like everywhere else, we've had cops killed in the line of duty here in Minnesota. These have gotten considerable public attention. In fact, the funerals were shown LIVE on tv, newspapers presented many photos of these cops, people who grew up with them all say what a great guy he was, etc. Statues have been created to honor these cops. In fact, a statue was created to honor a police dog killed in the line of duty:

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Other municipalities have done the same.
 
Chauvin deserves to spend decades in prison, IMO. Perhaps his punishment will be a lesson for that small percentage of "macho" cops who think the badge gives them "immunity". Society needs trustworthy police in order for the public to cooperate with them and help keep the criminals under control.
 
ElCastor said:
I'll leave his guilt and punishment up to the court, but it is curious that dozens of police officers die at the hands of criminals every year, and yet their deaths don't receive so much as one tenth of 1% of the attention of Floyd's demise. Why is that?
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You are mistaken. When a police officer is killed, it is front-page news. And their funerals often replace regular TV programs.
And for every police officer that dies at the hands of criminals, hundreds more civilians are murdered.
Floyd's murder received much attention because he was murdered by a police officer who was sworn to uphold the law; not be a dirtbag criminal, himself.
 
It's in his best interest to plead guilty to lesser charges such as civil rights violations so when he comes up for parole, he can use it as proof that he was remorseful and should be let out early. All this, including his ultra-polite disposition at his trial, is carefully orchestrated by his lawyers to get him a good deal and make his sentence as painless as possible (IMO).
 
ohioboy said:
He would have been convicted anyway. Just think, one morning he woke up a big bad police officer, but he wasn't when he went to bed!

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nati...0211215-rcizcmmvq5dzdmqushmhqshh74-story.html
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Here in California a Highway Patrol officer- George Gwaltney was finally put away in prison for 90 years, after escaping conviction in local courts.

The civil rights statute is the 'silver bullet' to insure justice, when other efforts have failed.
 
Irwin said:
It's in his best interest to plead guilty to lesser charges such as civil rights violations so when he comes up for parole, he can use it as proof that he was remorseful and should be let out early. All this, including his ultra-polite disposition at his trial, is carefully orchestrated by his lawyers to get him a good deal and make his sentence as painless as possible (IMO).
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There is no Parole in the federal system.
 
Nathan said:
Here in California a Highway Patrol officer- George Gwaltney was finally put away in prison for 90 years, after escaping conviction in local courts.

The civil rights statute is the 'silver bullet' to insure justice, when other efforts have failed.
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I saw this on a crime show justice last night week.
 
win231 said:
You are mistaken. When a police officer is killed, it is front-page news. And their funerals often replace regular TV programs.
And for every police officer that dies at the hands of criminals, hundreds more civilians are murdered.
Floyd's murder received much attention because he was murdered by a police officer who was sworn to uphold the law; not be a dirtbag criminal, himself.
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Oh, really? This thing gets plastered all over the newspapers and TV for 18 months and Floyd has a 700 pound statue erected in his honor a thousand miles away in New York -- all because a police officer violated an oath? Hmmm, I think there is a bit more to this story than that.
 
hollydolly said:
It never fails to surprise me when the American media state the colour of a victim or criminal... as in that link where they state Chauvin is white... and his victim was Black

I can't remember ever seeing our media stating someone's colour when reporting on a crime committed here .. the only time would be if they were reporting a crime committed in te USA and took the story directly from an American news agency...or if it was a crime committed due to someone's colour.....otherwise generally here.. unless we are to see pictures of the victims or the perpetrator we wouldn't know what colour they were...simply because really people are just people here... regardless of creed or colour
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Stating people's color is what keeps people polarized, sadly. A crime is a crime, no matter what the person happens to look like.
 
carouselsilver said:
Stating people's color is what keeps people polarized, sadly. A crime is a crime, no matter what the person happens to look like.
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Well, if a black person robs a store, you don't expect the police to say otherwise when a wanted flyer goes out etc.?
 

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