Clinton on track to win....

Regarding Hillary, without going into any details now about reservations I have, I will of course support her. I have reluctantly accepted Elizabeth Warren's statement that she will not run. What worries me now is the prospect that Hillary will not have any competition for the nomination and this is really scary uncharted water. No non incumbent candidate has ever gone unopposed to the nomination. This means HRC will not have the benefit of the political excitement a real primary campaign creates. And sad to say getting the political juices flowing in the Democratic constituency takes a lot of doing. Witness the recent off year elections.
 
[h=1]Hillary Clinton And Elizabeth Warren Had A Secret Meeting In December[/h]Source: TPM/NYT

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had a private one-on-one meeting in December at the former secretary and likely presidential candidate's home in Washington, DC, The New York Times reported.

Clinton heard policy ideas and suggestions from Warren, according to an unnamed Democrat briefed on the meeting and quoted in the Times.

The meeting was a rare direct interaction between Clinton and Warren, who supporters hope will run for president as a liberal and populist alternative to Clinton. Warren has repeatedly said she is not running for president but the Run Warren Run movement has persisted (albeit without posing much of a threat to Clinton's potential campaign).

The meeting in December between Clinton and Warren came a few months after they ran into each other during a rally for Massachusetts Democratic gubernatorial candidate Martha Coakley. At that run-in, Clinton praised Warren for fighting Wall Street special interests and big banks.

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/hillary-clinton-elizabeth-warren-secret-meeting


hummm.......now that would be a dream team.

I too will support Hillary.
 

I've been reading the political tea leaves a long time and I agree this time around it is Hillary's to lose. More than eighteen months out from the election, I agree Hillary is likely to be the next President. I'm a life long democrat.The Republicans are too fractionalized to win an election, I think. I don't know how Bush will do but the rest of their line up, as it was last time, are a bunch of dipsticks, lacking leadership. With Romney out there is no leadership, no one of a national character who can step into the void and make something happen, unless Bush comes on strong. Bush has the financial support lined up to run a good race if he can attract enough independents and a few democrats. Republicans on their own can't elect a president. They run off too many people. They will need help and i don't know who would want to help these present dipsticks.
 
Ok! First Hillary Clinton is head and shoulders above any of her potential opponents. I would have loved to see Elizabeth Warren run but she apparently isn't going to. I will not only support Hillary I will back it up with some money (not a huge amount but it will help) and I will offer to work for her. She has NO chance in Arizona nor would any Democrat, but I will be trying.
 
I will support Hillary, too, although, I would rather support Warren. And neither of them have any chance in Oklahoma.
 
drifter said:
I've been reading the political tea leaves a long time and I agree this time around it is Hillary's to lose. More than eighteen months out from the election, I agree Hillary is likely to be the next President. I'm a life long democrat.The Republicans are too fractionalized to win an election, I think. I don't know how Bush will do but the rest of their line up, as it was last time, are a bunch of dipsticks, lacking leadership. With Romney out there is no leadership, no one of a national character who can step into the void and make something happen, unless Bush comes on strong. Bush has the financial support lined up to run a good race if he can attract enough independents and a few democrats. Republicans on their own can't elect a president. They run off too many people. They will need help and i don't know who would want to help these present dipsticks.
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I think you're selling GOP short. They're going to spend a ton of money repeating the insane stupid things they always say, and they're going to say it over and over again and a significant percentage of the electorate above and beyond the right wing base will eventually come to accept their stuff as true. It took a really major effort to put together the the coalition that elected Obama twice and as soon as the election is over that Democratic coalition falls apart and has to be reassembled at great effort for the next presidential election. Having the right ideas doesn't make it happen. Motivating the Democratic coalition takes next to a miracle.
 
Josiah, you are being pessimistic....I hope it goes differently! If Joe Average or Irene Elder have a chance it will take Democrats to deliver it.
 
Josiah09 said:
I think you're selling GOP short. They're going to spend a ton of money repeating the insane stupid things they always say, and they're going to say it over and over again and a significant percentage of the electorate above and beyond the right wing base will eventually come to accept their stuff as true.
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I think that the GOP is running out of issues to be against, Roe v. Wade has no chance of being reversed, gender issues are a mine field- being against any human issues in general can make a politician look bad in a hurry. The 47% are still alive, and hanging chads won't deliver another GOP victory.

Making noises about economic issues or foreign policy is dangerous for republicans as well, neither arena is their strong suite.
 
Josiah09 said:
I think you're selling GOP short. They're going to spend a ton of money repeating the insane stupid things they always say, and they're going to say it over and over again and a significant percentage of the electorate above and beyond the right wing base will eventually come to accept their stuff as true. It took a really major effort to put together the the coalition that elected Obama twice and as soon as the election is over that Democratic coalition falls apart and has to be reassembled at great effort for the next presidential election. Having the right ideas doesn't make it happen. Motivating the Democratic coalition takes next to a miracle.
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But aren't you forgetting that this may be our first woman president.... That will generate HUGE interest.. People wanting to get on the right side of history and this historic election..
 
tnthomas, the Republicans don't need to have any fresh ideas to win. They know how to go negative. That's all they've been doing for the past 7 years and what did it get them in 2014? They won handily. I predict that is 2016 they'll beat the war drums and convince a majority of the American electorate that what we need is to unleash the American military to solve once and for all the problem of Islamic terrorism in the middle east. I know I'm describing the American electorate as a bunch of know nothings, but in the hands of the Republican propaganda apparatus fueled with unlimited financial resources, I've seen it happen over and over again.

QS, I wish I could share your confidence about the excitement a woman running for president will ignite, but there have been so many consequential woman in so many important jobs that I feel that the novelty has worn off. People now know that woman can handle any job. There have been scores of female heads of state. Here in the US we're just a little bit behind. No big deal.

So far none of you has lessened my fear of a Republican nominating the next three Supreme Court justices and taking us into another stupid stupid war. Please keep trying.
 
Man I understand your fears there. I hope we can protect Social Security, Medicare, ACA with a Democrat in office to protect us.
 
I was listening to an intuitive on the Coast radio show last night, who also was into reading tarot cards. She said she saw Hillary taking the presidency in 2016, and saw her in a blue suit and hat. :D
 
SeaBreeze said:
I was listening to an intuitive on the Coast radio show last night, who also was into reading tarot cards. She said she saw Hillary taking the presidency in 2016, and saw her in a blue suit and hat. :D
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I'm sorry but a tarot card reading does nothing to quell my angst about the upcoming campaign. Nobody has commented on the glaring fact that it is during the primary season that people become interested and committed to a candidate and faced with no competitive opponents Hillary's primary season will have all the motivational impact of a piece of wet cardboard.
 
AZ Jim said:
Man I understand your fears there. I hope we can protect Social Security, Medicare, ACA with a Democrat in office to protect us.
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There have been Democrats in power for many years and not one effort has been made to protect Social Security and their shrinking funds. For many years there have been programs funded with what was considered to be SS surplus funds held by the government. Same problem with the Republicans not doing anything to end the raids. So how are we to expect any corrections, no matter which party is in charge. Too bad we can't just eliminate this 'Party' running our government and go back to the way our Constitution was designed and have the ones we elect act as the elected people running this country. Makes more sense than this off side non government group decided what we should do.
 
BobF said:
There have been Democrats in power for many years and not one effort has been made to protect Social Security and their shrinking funds. For many years there have been programs funded with what was considered to be SS surplus funds held by the government. Same problem with the Republicans not doing anything to end the raids. So how are we to expect any corrections, no matter which party is in charge. Too bad we can't just eliminate this 'Party' running our government and go back to the way our Constitution was designed and have the ones we elect act as the elected people running this country. Makes more sense than this off side non government group decided what we should do.
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Under the present law the Social Security Trust fund isn't shrinking and will continue increasing until 2021. This gives the country time to adopt any of a number to not very drastic changes to increase the revenues. What AZ Jim is worried about is a Republican administration that radically tries to privatize a program which has been the backbone of our safety net. And I share that concern.
 
And some of what you say is missing that a lot of the SS reserves have already been taken for other projects. If needed they will have to come from other government sources to replace them.

The effort you speak of was just a choice for people to take. Have their SS investment put into a different fund if they choose. Hopefully for a better outcome. It was not to just remove SS at all. To me, that choice would be a foolish thing to do so I would not have done that option had they gotten permission to do so.

I believe our joint congress was able to block that motion so no damage done. Just the way our government is supposed to work.
 
We the people got rid of most of the Democrats in Congress ,all we have left now is the one in the White House.

HAPPY DAYS ARE HERE AGAIN .
 
First of all SS is no longer a trust fund. It hasn't been for years. If it was a trust fund it would have always remained solvent. When I said "protect" I referred to the never ending assaults on it and Medicare and now ACA. If George Bush had his way we would all have gone without our EARNED benefit when the last stock market crash occurred. Republicans have whittled away at these programs every chance and any fool can see there intentions should they have unfettered ability to have their way. All seniors better begin thinking their own security when they vote Republican and depend upon there social programs.
 
We're a little off the topic of HRC in '16 but since Social Security seems to have garnered some interest, I'll offer this portion of an article in TPM

The definitive Democratic counterproposal in the fledgling fight over Social Security is starting to emerge, and it has a familiar ring in the era of income inequality politics: tax the rich.

More specifically, Democrats are proposing to raise or eliminate the cap on Social Security taxes. Those taxes are currently collected up to $118,500 of a person's income, and any income above that is Social Security tax-free. The liberal Center for American Progress said in a new report last week that the program had lost $1.1 trillion over the last 30 years because of it.

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) announced last week that he would propose eliminating the cap for income above $250,000. His office estimated that that would keep Social Security solvent until 2060; the program is currently projected to start running out of money in 2033.

“If Republicans are serious about extending the solvency of Social Security beyond 2033," Sanders said, "I hope they will join me in scrapping the cap that allows multi-millionaires to pay a much smaller percentage of their income into Social Security than the middle class."
 

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