Coconut Oil No Good?

RadishRose said:
Thanks Lara, that's good. Peanut oil smokes at 450 according to

https://www.thespruceeats.com/smoking-points-of-fats-and-oils-1328753

(scroll down for the full alphabetical table.)

Myself, I usually just pan-saute' so I don't need a high burning oil and love the taste of olive oil, but I bet your avocado oil is delicious.
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I don't need high burning oil either and when I do saute, I mix olive oil and coconut oil and it's good in my life. I use CO on my joints too, so I use it for many reasons.

I trust it.
 

Camper6 said:
Fine but that's not very scientific.
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Oh here we go with the science. Someone's own body and mind don't count on what they feel is RIGHT for them? It's call intuition, gut feeling. I have plenty of that science on my own body, no one knows it like me.
 

RadishRose said:
I think selective breeding is different than GMO, isn't it? This is a painting of an early watermelon. Compare to today's.

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You are asking a question so you don't know?

Selecting seeds from plants that have modified themselves to produce beneficial characteristics is the same as artificially engendering the seeds.

Plants are engineered to result in increased yield from crops.

All crops are sprayed with pesticides of one sort or another or most crops would have a huge degree of waste.

The world needs food not waste.

Is the life expectancy and diseases any less where GMO is not allowed?
 
Camper6 said:
I know that but when your health is involved you should be relying on science no hunches.

A blood test will tell you more about your body than a guess. A diabetic needs to know exactly what his blood sugar is in order to regulate it.
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Science doesn't tell me when one gets leg and foot cramps or a person gets what is called today restless leg issues. That usually is attributed to magnesium deficiency. And often one does end up with heart issues like afib and magnesium is said to be low in that person's body.

And I do get annual labs and my MD does test for magnesium levels. But I know my body and what I eat and know how much mag I'm getting. The longer on this earth the more the body needs supplementation. I've been working with supps for over 25 yrs and I'm 80 and in good health.
 
Lara said:
Most countries have banned GMO's..

The US planted the most GMO crop area at 73 million hectares (one hectare contains 2 1/2 acres), followed by Brazil (49 million), Argentina (24 million), Canada (12 million) and India (11 million). These 5 countries made of 91 percent of the global area of GMO crops.

Notice, there are no GMO's allowed in Europe

https://gmo.geneticliteracyproject.org/FAQ/where-are-gmos-grown-and-banned/
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That's true Lara, and I prefer non-GMO foods if available, I notice in the stores a lot of foods are now being labeled non-GMO. I've also been using virgin coconut oil for years now, internally and externally. I don't fry/saute with it, I'll usually use extra virgin olive oil for that, and if I'm frying a rib-eye steak, I'll use butter. I do use coconut oil in baking as a replacement for oil or butter. Sometimes I'll use light olive oil for baking.

From all I've read over the years about coconut oil, I believe it's healthy and does not cause high cholesterol or arterial blockages. I'm pretty healthy and I try to take a spoonful per day, also have used it for my teeth like Jaminhealth, and have some right now on my arms to soothe the itching I've been having from mosquito bites. I've posted some threads about coconut oil here with info on its benefits.

The 'follow the money' argument can be used against the medical industry also, a medical association won't say anything positive about herbs, spices or supplements until they are the ones putting them in pills and selling them via doctor's prescriptions. But they will advertise pharmaceutical drugs on TV all the time, money is no object for the ads, but they make their bread and butter with the drugs and treatments they sell to the public, regardless of dangerous side effects.

There are times when people need certain medicines and there are no natural alternatives, in those cases I'm glad what they need is available even though the cost is usually sky high.

In the end, we just should do what we feel is best for ourselves personally, everyone's different and will have different points of view on these things. I don't try to tell anyone what to put into their bodies, that's none of my business, I just share what I do and what has been working for me.
 
Coconut oil is your friend, Rose!:eek:nthego:
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jaminhealth said:
Science doesn't tell me when one gets leg and foot cramps or a person gets what is called today restless leg issues. That usually is attributed to magnesium deficiency. And often one does end up with heart issues like afib and magnesium is said to be low in that person's body.

And I do get annual labs and my MD does test for magnesium levels. But I know my body and what I eat and know how much mag I'm getting. The longer on this earth the more the body needs supplementation. I've been working with supps for over 25 yrs and I'm 80 and in good health.
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But you are guessing that it's a magnesium deficiency. I'm 85 and never take sups except what a doctor recommends based on blood tests.
 
SeaBreeze said:
That's true Lara, and I prefer non-GMO foods if available, I notice in the stores a lot of foods are now being labeled non-GMO. I've also been using virgin coconut oil for years now, internally and externally. I don't fry/saute with it, I'll usually use extra virgin olive oil for that, and if I'm frying a rib-eye steak, I'll use butter. I do use coconut oil in baking as a replacement for oil or butter. Sometimes I'll use light olive oil for baking.

From all I've read over the years about coconut oil, I believe it's healthy and does not cause high cholesterol or arterial blockages. I'm pretty healthy and I try to take a spoonful per day, also have used it for my teeth like Jaminhealth, and have some right now on my arms to soothe the itching I've been having from mosquito bites. I've posted some threads about coconut oil here with info on its benefits.

The 'follow the money' argument can be used against the medical industry also, a medical association won't say anything positive about herbs, spices or supplements until they are the ones putting them in pills and selling them via doctor's prescriptions. But they will advertise pharmaceutical drugs on TV all the time, money is no object for the ads, but they make their bread and butter with the drugs and treatments they sell to the public, regardless of dangerous side effects.

There are times when people need certain medicines and there are no natural alternatives, in those cases I'm glad what they need is available even though the cost is usually sky high.

In the end, we just should do what we feel is best for ourselves personally, everyone's different and will have different points of view on these things. I don't try to tell anyone what to put into their bodies, that's none of my business, I just share what I do and what has been working for me.
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If it wasn't for medication some people would stop functioning like diabetes. And tuberculosis would be rampant.
 
Camper6 said:
But you are guessing that it's a magnesium deficiency. I'm 85 and never take sups except what a doctor recommends based on blood tests.
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Good for you but I get the impression you deal with diabetes so take some drugs, right? I've done plenty of reading that diabetes can be prevented and even reversed.
 
jaminhealth said:
Good for you but I get the impression you deal with diabetes so take some drugs, right? I've done plenty of reading that diabetes can be prevented and even reversed.
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Well I'm not diabetic but I have two friends that do.

I exercise and watch my weight. I think that's very important in being able to be flexible and strong.

Whether it can be reversed or not will depend on science.
 
jaminhealth said:
Good for you but I get the impression you deal with diabetes so take some drugs, right? I've done plenty of reading that diabetes can be prevented and even reversed.
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Me too and you're absolutely correct that diabetes can be reversed with dietary changes. "Eat to Live" by Dr. Fuhrman is an excellent book to read about this.
 
RadishRose said:
  • A Harvard professor made some controversial comments concerning coconut oil in a lecture posted on YouTube.
  • The video, which has garnered 400,000 hits, comes after the American Heart Association advised people to avoid coconut oil.
  • In the talk, titled "Coconut Oil and other Nutritional Errors," professor Karen Michels described coconut oil as "pure poison" and "one of the worst foods you can eat."
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Just happened across this, the other side of the story regarding this professor and her lecture HERE.

The corporate-sponsored “mainstream” media, funded in large part by the pharmaceutical industry, is promoting a lecture given in German by a Harvard medical professor who claims that coconut oil is “pure poison.”

The lecture was given by Dr. Karin Michels, the director of the Institute for Prevention and Tumor Epidemiology at the University of Freiburg and a professor at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health.

Now, before I expose the old same tired lies the medical system and its media proponents claim about coconut oil, and the reasons why they are doing so, just consider the logic of making such a statement as “coconut oil is pure poison.”

While coconut oil has only become popular in the U.S. again in recent years, it is a traditional food that has been consumed in tropical climates where coconuts grow for many thousands of years.
Is it reasonable to think that all these billions of people have been poisoning themselves due to their consumption of coconut oil for the past several thousand years?

If it were truly a poison leading to heart disease and bad health, wouldn’t we be seeing an increase in many health problems among the millions of Americans who now use it as their primary dietary oil?

Is there any evidence at all for any of Dr. Michels claims?
No.

The only reason her comments and lecture are going viral today, and being promoted by the corporate media, is because of her “credentials.” In the field of logic this is called a fallacy of “appeal to authority,” as we are just supposed to accept her word on it without any evidence.

What Dr. Michels uses to explain her position is a failed theory of heart disease called the “lipid theory of heart disease” which condemns saturated fat as something terrible that is to be avoided at all costs.

Using this theory, which has been thoroughly debunked by actual science, coconut oil then is condemned as guilty by association, since it has the highest amount of saturated fat than any other dietary oil.

The real reason coconut oil is being attacked in the corporate media by the medical system, is because it is a threat to their toxic drugs. Because outside of the U.S., the peer reviewed literature is publishing more and more studies showing just how healthy coconut oil really is, and how it is being used in nutritional protocols to help cure many diseases such as dementia and Alzheimer’s disease.

About saturated fats and cholesterol HERE.
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jaminhealth said:
I use it and will continue. I use both olive oil and coconut oil and use CO to make my toothpaste. I see no dentists...anymore and hope it lasts.

Every day someone comes out with a new test on this and that and am wise to all these so called new pronouncements.

Just recently a new test on how bad low carb is for us and how bad high carb diet is for us.

I go very moderate with carbs from veggies.

When I was in a rehab facility for my knee issue I met a lot of people from the Philippines and they would see my jar of CO on my tray, as I used in on my knee, and they would go on about their lives and CO.

I go out of my way to avoid corn, soy and veggie oils. And canola. Read the history on that one.


What I've learned to do is dig deeper to see who is "paying" the writer to write what they do. Which industry, which lobbyist etc. Money talks and walks.

Many have jumped on CO and could be the other oil industries are feeling the pain of lower sales.

There is a lot of information on CO and controlling the damage of memory issues.
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Exactly. You have to wonder who is getting paid to write this false information because it is fsksi. The facts are not even accurate. Coconut oil has medium chained fatty acids but they are known to reduce bad cholesterol. Coconut is unique to many oils which is why it has been known as a miracle oil. It’s anti bacterial, anti fungal and works wonders for many disorders. It’s great for hair and skin as well as cooking.

Camper6 said:
Butter and eggs got the same rap once and now they are supposed to be o.k.

I look at who is promoting coconut oil.

Coconuts don't grow in the U.S. Or do they? You couldn't find it on the shelves before and now it's even in dollarama.

I will still take a chance on coconut shrimp. I love that stuff with a spicy sauce.
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Very true Camper.

jaminhealth said:
Again do a search. I prefer foods that are not genetically modified. Give me pure natural foods not changed as what is going on today. Do a search on GMO's. If you like what you read go for them. We all make our choices on what we put in our bodies.


Here's some info for all the doubters that think GMO causes no harm.

As most of us know, a high percentage of Corn (93%), Soy (90%) are GMO.

Monsanto’s Roundup Must Carry Cancer Warning Label, Judge Decrees

WHAT’S THE CONNECTION BETWEEN GLYPHOSATE AND GENETICALLY MODIFIED CROPS?

It goes beyond just corn and soy
Which genetically engineered crops are approved in the U.S.?

This is just another prime example where the all mighty dollar comes before our health.
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You are absolutely right Jamie!

Camper6 said:
No difference. Selective breeding is the same as GMO.
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Selective breeding is NOT the same as GMO.
https://www.greenlivingtips.com/articles/gmo-vs-selective-breeding.html

RadishRose said:
I think selective breeding is different than GMO, isn't it? This is a painting of an early watermelon. Compare to today's.

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You are correct RaddishRose. It’s NOT the same thing.
Coconut oil is really good stuff. The article you posted is not factually correct. It’s way off.
 
Right, I live in Florida and see them all the time, LOL. Grew up eating fresh coconut meat. I have cooked with coconut oil on occasion, it adds a little coconut flavor to dishes like curry. I'll have to look into this info and reaccess. I've used in homemade sugar scrubs, too, with good results.
 
RebeccaBrowne said:
Right, I live in Florida and see them all the time, LOL. Grew up eating fresh coconut meat. I have cooked with coconut oil on occasion, it adds a little coconut flavor to dishes like curry. I'll have to look into this info and reaccess. I've used in homemade sugar scrubs, too, with good results.
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I love Thai green coconut chicken curry! I've always like the taste of coconut- Almond Joy, coconut-custard pie, ice cream, etc.
 
RadishRose said:
I love Thai green coconut chicken curry! I've always like the taste of coconut- Almond Joy, coconut-custard pie, ice cream, etc.
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Me, too, I love the taste of coconut. Have you ever had haupia pudding squares? Really good.

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