Considering buying an " E" collar.

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I have noticed something called an "E" collar on many youtube videos. They seem to be an excellent way to focus the dogs attention on what the owner says.
Apparently the "E" collar can be adjusted from a light vibrating and up from there.

Everybody knows what happens of we allow a child to drink huge amounts of sugary drinks , like coke. The kid goes absolutely wild. Well, that's what I have with my dog. just came back from the corner market and while inside he acted like a bucking bronco. leaping, twisting, flipping, trying to bite everyone's pant legs and being a general problem.

The "E" collar, if I buy it, just might be the solution.
 

Sounds kind of hilarious. :)

Curious — what did that have to do with sugary drinks? Is he eating sweet foods? Or ... is it just about him still being in the puppy stage?
 
Nothing to do with sugary drinks , just drawing an analogy.
 

I tried one on my my old pal Boo to keep him out of the road. He was a Chihuahua and weighed about eight pounds. I felt so bad when I used it I had to quit. It had a high pitched sound it produced that when used made him come to me if he was not busy doing something important to him. It had ten settings for shock severity. One was minor. Ten was a scorcher. I used the three setting but I just could not use it anymore after the first couple a times. The signal distance varied a lot also. It advertised one hundred yards but in reality it was fifteen to twenty in a straight. Walls and trees would sometimes interfere with the signal. My conscience just couldn't take it. He has passed on and it makes me sad to think I even tried it on him. Your mileage may vary.
 
Tish said:
Have you tried taking your dog for long walks to burn up some of its energy?
I take mine for long walks and play fetch with her.
The "E" collar sounds too close to a shock collar to me.
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yeah, I take him for walks. For such a small dog, once around a city block,3 times/day, should be enough. At least i'd think so.
 
Have you considered a pinch collar? While they do look barbaric they really just a gentle pinching and for us worked well with one of our
dogs. It's suggested to try it out on your forearm to see how it feels, that wasn't good enough for me, I tried it around my neck and pulled on it with both hands as hard as I could. It was fine.

Not only did it work instantly, but it became our dog's regular collar when out. We had a medium sized lab, a sturdy shorter haired dog. We gave one to our friend who has a collie, and his fur was too long and got tangled up. If it looks like it's worth a try , buy a GOOD ONE. I could go dig up ours and tell you what brand we had, I just remember it was made in Germany. The materials are heavier, better finished, and it's much easier to add and remove links to get the proper fit. For the right kind of dog it can work wonders.
 

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The dog needs a lot of play time, aside from the walks. I don't like the idea of a pinch collar .. which used to be called a choke chain collar. We tried one on our 2nd lab, about twice, then threw it out. A body harness would have been better.

 
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Pinky said:
The dog needs a lot of play time, aside from the walks. I don't like the idea of a pinch collar .. which used to be called a choke chain collar. We tried one on our 2nd lab, about twice, then threw it out. A body harness would have been better.
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I agree the pup needs a lot of playtime.

Regarding the collar though, really it required very little pressure and applied very little-- at least the one we have worked that way. It wasn't anymore force applied than a standard 1" wide leather collar did. I'm quite serious that I did put it around my own neck, pulled as hard as I could, to try it before we bought it and the most pressure I could put on it felt about what a bit too tight neck tie felt like. No sharp points or anything. We had already tried a harness which was useless. When I said it became his regular collar--that was only referring to when he was on lead.

What I call a choke collar is the plain chain that has a ring at either end. As I understand how it should be used is different as well... use with a quick snap and release to get the dog's attention. Using the pinch collar a gentle easy tug was all it took and it worked the first time and every time. Of course, this was just our experience, with our dog other dogs and people may not be the same. In our case there was literally nothing to be sad about.

I just took a quick look and I can't find it, but I know it was made in Germany, more expensive, and was vastly superior to others that I'd looked at when we were shopping.
 
I have long used electronic collars and an electronic "fence", it works very well to keep the dogs in the yard. It does require a lot of training for some dogs to understand. The most important part of that training is walking the dog in the safe areas, they need to understand that there are places where they do not get shocked and where those places are. It can take weeks for some dogs to learn, others are faster.

Also have used radio based collars when walking the dogs instead of a leash. That works too, but I have not been as satisfied as with the electronic fence things.

You don't need to shock the dogs often, and once trained many dogs require no shock, the vibration or buzz warning is sufficient. However I have had dogs that needed more reminding...

The shock is pretty mild, I always test it myself first, would never subject a dog to something I am not willing to do to myself.
 
I, too, have a very active 11 month old dog. He's Border Collie / Australian Shepherd and is just about too active for us. If he is kept cooped up for too long he goes nuts. Luckily, we have a couple of acres so he is allowed periods to run free daily. But I will not resort to training methods using choke, prong, or shock collars. Dog training has progressed away from force/torture training. Please look into Positive Reinforcement training methods. There are lots of YouTube training videos.
 
Granny B. said:
I, too, have a very active 11 month old dog. He's Border Collie / Australian Shepherd and is just about too active for us. If he is kept cooped up for too long he goes nuts. Luckily, we have a couple of acres so he is allowed periods to run free daily. But I will not resort to training methods using choke, prong, or shock collars. Dog training has progressed away from force/torture training. Please look into Positive Reinforcement training methods. There are lots of YouTube training videos.
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Yes, I have tried positive reinforcement methods. He pays absolutely no attention. Oh, to be sure. he is delighted to receive treats but he does not associate treats with any command I give.
 
Sorry to say, @senior chef, but this does not seem like the dog for you. Perhaps consider rehoming him so that you and he can live happier lives. You've given it a good try.

And, if you want a dog, get one that doesn't have quite that much energy, and is perhaps older. (I don't know much about dogs, but that's all I can think of.)

Unless you wish to carry on with your puppy. Perhaps as he ages, he'll calm down and become more obedient, although I'm not sure of that.
 
senior chef said:
I have noticed something called an "E" collar on many youtube videos. They seem to be an excellent way to focus the dogs attention on what the owner says.
Apparently the "E" collar can be adjusted from a light vibrating and up from there.

Everybody knows what happens of we allow a child to drink huge amounts of sugary drinks , like coke. The kid goes absolutely wild. Well, that's what I have with my dog. just came back from the corner market and while inside he acted like a bucking bronco. leaping, twisting, flipping, trying to bite everyone's pant legs and being a general problem.

The "E" collar, if I buy it, just might be the solution.
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Have you ever jumped around trying to dodge a wasp or contorted yourself trying to get at that itch on your shoulder blade? Let's give you an electric shock next time you do.
 
senior chef said:
Yes, I have tried positive reinforcement methods. He pays absolutely no attention. Oh, to be sure. he is delighted to receive treats but he does not associate treats with any command I give.
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Then I urge you to seek the help of a professional (and kind) dog trainer, before you possibly ruin this pup with a shock collar. You can call your vet and ask for a recommendation. I'm going to say this in the gentlest way I can, but you and your dog are both in need of some "training" and your pup probably needs some proper socializing.
 
Nathan said:
Unruly dog behavior is a direct reflection on the owner. Becoming the pack leader in the human+dog relationship is essential. An E collar might help, but the owner / handler /trainer has to properly deploy and manage the E collar usage. For great dog ownership information see:
https://www.cesarsway.com/
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I still have nor decided upon whether to buy an "E" color or not.
It has now become a contest between me and the dog. He thinks he should be in control. I think I should be.
The only way the dog is happy is when he gets total freedom to run free in the apartment and to destroy everything he comes in contact with. I caught him chewing on live electric extension cords. It would be only a matter of time until he electrocutes himself. So, to protect him, I put him on a leash and looped the other end on a full 5 gallon bottle of water. He now can move in a full circle without reaching anything except chew toys and his bed.
As far as exercise is concerned, he can easily out pace me and he is only 9 weeks old. God knows what he would be like at 1 year of age.
 
Granny B. said:
Then I urge you to seek the help of a professional (and kind) dog trainer, before you possibly ruin this pup with a shock collar. You can call your vet and ask for a recommendation. I'm going to say this in the gentlest way I can, but you and your dog are both in need of some "training" and your pup probably needs some proper socializing.
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I am in a rough position. I live in Mexico and I only speak very basic Spanish. The vets here do not speak any English.
If I give him away, there is an excellent chance he would end up as "bait" for killer fighting dogs.
 
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