againstthegrain
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I saw that story, thanks for posting it.
Cops misbehaving in the US
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OneEyedDiva
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You're welcome, of course.
I have been asked the same question over and over and also have seen it posted on many different sites. “Why do police have to wear military gear and carry military equip and firearms?”
I ask those people if they have ever seen what some drug distributors and dealers carry for weapons? Cops can’t go up against some of these people carrying AR’s, Uzi’s, TEC-9’s, or MAC’s. These are super military type weapons. If cops don’t carry the same or better weapons, they wouldn’t be able to get control of a situation. Even a Ruger Mini-14 is more powerful than any weapon the average cop has in his or her possession.
If police doesn’t at least match what the average drug dealers carry or even the terrorist groups, the country would be out of control very quickly. You won’t see cops throwing Molotov cocktails, but we have weapons to stop the bad guys from throwing them. All of these groups carry SMG’s and the police need to be able to stop them.
TEC-9 (The MAC-9 is very similar.)
I ask those people if they have ever seen what some drug distributors and dealers carry for weapons? Cops can’t go up against some of these people carrying AR’s, Uzi’s, TEC-9’s, or MAC’s. These are super military type weapons. If cops don’t carry the same or better weapons, they wouldn’t be able to get control of a situation. Even a Ruger Mini-14 is more powerful than any weapon the average cop has in his or her possession.
If police doesn’t at least match what the average drug dealers carry or even the terrorist groups, the country would be out of control very quickly. You won’t see cops throwing Molotov cocktails, but we have weapons to stop the bad guys from throwing them. All of these groups carry SMG’s and the police need to be able to stop them.
TEC-9 (The MAC-9 is very similar.)
againstthegrain
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Subject of op, Adams NYPD, ret now Mayor of NYC
NYT - "Four former high-ranking police officers are suing Mayor Eric Adams of New York, accusing him of enabling corruption in the Police Department, an agency where they said anyone who spoke out faced retaliation and humiliation.
The separate lawsuits filed on Monday in New York Supreme Court come as Mr. Adams, a former police captain, is running for re-election and using falling crime numbers to bolster his campaign. But the allegations from the former officers, who each spent decades in the department and helped lead bureaus like Internal Affairs and Professional Standards, could revive accusations that he presided over a law enforcement agency where chaos and cronyism reigned.
One of the former officers, James Essig, who served more than 40 years, was chief of detectives until August 2023. He said in the suit that Edward Caban, the commissioner at the time, had forced him to resign after he objected to the promotions of unqualified officers to elite detective roles and specialized units.
Mr. Essig’s lawsuit, which names Mr. Caban, Mr. Adams and Jeffrey Maddrey, the former chief of department, accused Mr. Caban of selling promotions in exchange for $15,000.
Instead of relying on a list of candidates recommended by supervisors, Mr. Caban and Mr. Maddrey often picked “friends and cronies” of theirs and Mr. Adams, according to the suit."
NYT - "Four former high-ranking police officers are suing Mayor Eric Adams of New York, accusing him of enabling corruption in the Police Department, an agency where they said anyone who spoke out faced retaliation and humiliation.
The separate lawsuits filed on Monday in New York Supreme Court come as Mr. Adams, a former police captain, is running for re-election and using falling crime numbers to bolster his campaign. But the allegations from the former officers, who each spent decades in the department and helped lead bureaus like Internal Affairs and Professional Standards, could revive accusations that he presided over a law enforcement agency where chaos and cronyism reigned.
One of the former officers, James Essig, who served more than 40 years, was chief of detectives until August 2023. He said in the suit that Edward Caban, the commissioner at the time, had forced him to resign after he objected to the promotions of unqualified officers to elite detective roles and specialized units.
Mr. Essig’s lawsuit, which names Mr. Caban, Mr. Adams and Jeffrey Maddrey, the former chief of department, accused Mr. Caban of selling promotions in exchange for $15,000.
Instead of relying on a list of candidates recommended by supervisors, Mr. Caban and Mr. Maddrey often picked “friends and cronies” of theirs and Mr. Adams, according to the suit."
againstthegrain
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Drunk driver gets away with it, when corrupt cop fails to show for trial. The scheme had been ongoing since the late 90's. Hopefully he remembers his inane advice about "consequences" to a drunk woman on the side of the road like he was somehow morally superior to her even though he sold out his "profession."
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"visa fraud, as well as mail fraud and money laundering".
Police chiefs in Louisiana essentially selling US visas to illegal aliens.
NYT -
"A federal grand jury has indicted current and former police chiefs in three communities, another local law enforcement official and a Louisiana businessman whom prosecutors described as the architect of the scheme."
"“People paid thousands of dollars to manufacture that status to get a shortcut to the privilege of staying in our great nation,” Jonathan Tapp, the special agent in charge of the F.B.I. in New Orleans, said in the news conference on Wednesday. “We expect law enforcement officers to protect the public and to honor their trust, not to sell that trust and the honor of their badges for personal gain.”
The scheme began in 2015, prosecutors said, and involved Chad Doyle, the police chief in Oakdale, La.; Glynn Dixon, the police chief in Forest Hill, La.; Tebo Onishea, the former police chief in Glenmora, La.; and Michael Slaney, a marshal in Oakdale. The towns are all south of Alexandria, in the rural sprawl of Central Louisiana.
Prosecutors said that immigrants who wanted to participate paid Chandrakant Patel, the owner of convenience stores and a Subway franchise in Oakdale, who then paid the police officials to provide the false reports. Mr. Patel paid the officials as much as $5,000 for each person named in the report, according to the indictment.
It is unclear how many immigrants participated in the scheme over the past decade. A spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney’s office declined to comment on the status of the immigrants who participated or whether they would face charges in the case.
Federal authorities were tipped off to the scheme a year ago, prompting an investigation that led them to find “an unusual concentration of armed robberies of people who were not from Louisiana,” Mr. Van Hook said.
Mr. Patel was charged with bribery, mail fraud and money laundering. The police chiefs and marshal were charged with visa fraud, as well as mail fraud and money laundering."
Corruption at every level, everywhere, everyday,,,,,the biggest gang problem in the US today.
Police chiefs in Louisiana essentially selling US visas to illegal aliens.
NYT -
"A federal grand jury has indicted current and former police chiefs in three communities, another local law enforcement official and a Louisiana businessman whom prosecutors described as the architect of the scheme."
"“People paid thousands of dollars to manufacture that status to get a shortcut to the privilege of staying in our great nation,” Jonathan Tapp, the special agent in charge of the F.B.I. in New Orleans, said in the news conference on Wednesday. “We expect law enforcement officers to protect the public and to honor their trust, not to sell that trust and the honor of their badges for personal gain.”
The scheme began in 2015, prosecutors said, and involved Chad Doyle, the police chief in Oakdale, La.; Glynn Dixon, the police chief in Forest Hill, La.; Tebo Onishea, the former police chief in Glenmora, La.; and Michael Slaney, a marshal in Oakdale. The towns are all south of Alexandria, in the rural sprawl of Central Louisiana.
Prosecutors said that immigrants who wanted to participate paid Chandrakant Patel, the owner of convenience stores and a Subway franchise in Oakdale, who then paid the police officials to provide the false reports. Mr. Patel paid the officials as much as $5,000 for each person named in the report, according to the indictment.
It is unclear how many immigrants participated in the scheme over the past decade. A spokeswoman for the U.S. attorney’s office declined to comment on the status of the immigrants who participated or whether they would face charges in the case.
Federal authorities were tipped off to the scheme a year ago, prompting an investigation that led them to find “an unusual concentration of armed robberies of people who were not from Louisiana,” Mr. Van Hook said.
Mr. Patel was charged with bribery, mail fraud and money laundering. The police chiefs and marshal were charged with visa fraud, as well as mail fraud and money laundering."
Corruption at every level, everywhere, everyday,,,,,the biggest gang problem in the US today.
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againstthegrain
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They broke the driving laws multiple times prior eventually leading to suspended licenses. Cameras, which caught the speeding violations, aren't subjective so I've got no problem w that. There's absolutely nothing wrong w enforcing laws, etc it's how that enforcement is applied that is the subject of this thread.
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Police are human and accordingly some do disrespect their profession. But these occurrences are few and far between.
When they do break the laws, eventually they will be caught, and they will then suffer the consequences of the crime and the disrespect of all their fellow officers.
When they do break the laws, eventually they will be caught, and they will then suffer the consequences of the crime and the disrespect of all their fellow officers.
againstthegrain
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That's clearly not what is happening, but if your pie in the sky view makes you happy it's all good.
Timewise 60+
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I would say exactly the same thing to you! As you tell us, you are "against the grain" person...
againstthegrain
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All you've got is a view point. Posted here is documentation that supports my case.
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