Cosby Trial Deadlocked

I was a pretty young woman once, but I have never been "a young honey." That term is patronising, reductionist, and downright insulting. I yearn for the day when women are judged by the content of their character rather than their appearance.
 

Shalimar said:
I was a pretty young woman once, but I have never been "a young honey." That term is patronising, reductionist, and downright insulting. I yearn for the day when women are judged by the content of their character rather than their appearance.
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Just what is it that YOU think the term "young honey" means that you think is so insulting and that I am so awful for using it?
 

dpwspringer said:
Just what is it that YOU think the term "young honey" means that you think is so insulting and that I am so awful for using it?
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I don't think you are an aweful person. I think you mean well. You may well believe your words are complimentary, I don't. Why? Because it labels a woman by her looks. For many of us who have struggled to be taken seriously in the

business/professional world, being pretty was not an advantage. When I first received my Doctorate, and began practicing as a clinical psychologist, my petite, doll-like appearance was a hindrance more often than not, particularly among some of my older

male colleagues. They had difficulty seeing me as a doctor first, a woman second. In their minds, I could not be both pretty and qualified. That stigma is shrinking, but still exists, particularly in the scientific community.
 
Can I start the age old battle? I just saw a commercial on TV. A fellow was walking along, and a young woman was shimmying out a window butt first. A commercial selling womans jeans to woman. In todays world I am fairly sure that the staff involved with creating that commercial were mostly if not all women.
You have babies barely more than toddlers being dressed up with gowns,tiarras, and make up to simulate a mature female.
You have cheer leading/dancing by high school girls that is only a pole away from being a club act
Waitresses all unbutton one extra because they know cleavage gets tips
And you ask why you are objectified?

You claim we are equal,but then when you or one of your sisters takes a handful of Quaaludes and goes to a frat party, suddenly the as a male the burden of responsibility shifts back to me? At what point does your sisters responsibility to make responsible decisions come to the forefront?

I have had sex with many a drunk chick,and I am sure some that I was to drunk to remember. And no I didn't,"get them drunk", any alcohol or drugs they consumed were of their own free will. Can I say that some where there isn't some gal that had the morning after regrets or done the walk of shame away from my place. Hell no, because I know some I have walked away from feeling that way. But I damn well know that I didn't rape or victimize them in any way!

I have no sympathy for the asshole who drugs a girl without her knowledge.
 
Pattypan said:
Here's the thing. We have a sexual predator in the WH. Why? Because we choose him over a qualified stateswoman because people carried on about her being a liar and a nasty woman that outta be in jail! Bottom line? Women are liars. Therefore, we shouldn't believe them. Those women probably came on to poor Bill anyway. He was the victim. They asked for it! He's a father figure. America's beloved Dad! Who you gonna trust? All those lying women or dear old dad? Especially on fathers day!

BTW, I put a hung jury in the same category as undecided voters. Really? You have no clue to who is lying or who you'd like to win the election? You simply can't decide? It's just too much for you? I have an idea. Either spit or get off the pot. Do your job or don't take on the job to begin with.

Is anybody really shocked about this verdict? In a country where men, and sadly some women, believe rape is all part of a god's (male god) plan, and that after a sexual attack women's bodies can shut it down if need be?

We sound and look like a bunch of fools to the rest of the world. No wonder the world is pointing and laughing at us. We are a joke!
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Good God, Hillary portrayed as a qualified stateswoman..... why no mention of her integrity while Bill was dipping into the intern pool and anywhere else he wanted to go? Cannot have it both ways..... Men and women are two totally separate species, brought together for the purpose of reproduction that are stupid enough to think they can understand each other..... viva la difference..... I have never abused a woman physically or mentally, and have never thought of a woman as a lesser being......ever. Although I have questioned the logic of some forum participants.... as they have questioned mine...:wave:
 
When I read this the other day it made me cringe, what could go wrong.

“Mr. Cosby wants to get back to work,” said Andrew Wyatt, a spokesperson for Cosby, “We are now planning town halls.... We’re going to talk to young people, because this is bigger than Bill Cosby. This issue can affect any young person, especially young athletes of today. And they need to know what they're facing when they’re hanging out and partying, when they’re doing certain things that they should be doing. And it also affects married men.”

IMO Mr. Cosby would do well to spend his last few years of freedom quietly, away from the public eye.
 
JaniceM said:
I noticed other threads on this topic, refrained from commenting, and hope commenting here doesn't result in getting figuratively jumped & spit on, but am I the only person who's considered the possibility that this guy might be innocent?
If one person had accused him, or maybe even two people, but all of those women accusing him? I'm tempted to believe they look at a rich-and-famous superstar in terms of how they might benefit from a guilty verdict.
Obviously if he's guilty he should pay the consequences, but the more women that jumped on the bandwagon the less guilty he looks.
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I don't think he's completely innocent Janice and I don't think all those women accusers are completely truthful either. I agree with you that anyone who is found guilty should pay the consequence whether they're man or woman
 
WhatInThe said:
I think many of these women were trying to use Cosby to further their careers, help with a deal etc. But sex without consent is rape. Then again with no physical evidence it's he said-she said in many of those cases let alone this one.

The victim in this case continued to interact with Cosby after the incident.

One must wonder why and it wouldn't be a leap to think she was seeking a favor. Nothing wrong with that but it was probably one of the factors that hung this jury.

I also heard there were 3 charges and the jury couldn't even come to consensus on just one.
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What In The I feel the same way that those women were most likely trying to use Cosby to further their careers by flirting with him and getting drunk with him and so forth. If I'm flirting with a man and teasing him, drinking with him and going to his room I'd expect that having sex with him was in the future. I wouldn't get drunk with a man and lead him on unless I wanted it to go further. It's not like he drugged them duck taped them and brought them to his room in the trunk of his car. When he didn't do much for their careers they were probably angry and felt shame for their actions. When this whole thing came up they probably joined the gang to try a last ditch effort to cash in. I still say if he is proven guilty of any of the alleged accusations he should pay the price. Again I didn't follow this trial closely I had little interest from the beginning
 
Maybe it's just me. And I haven't read the whole thread. But. Doesn't the victims have some kind of responsibility in their life choices? Surely they cannot be that naive and that innocent.

Is it just me that feels that way?
 
My God, 2017, and blame the woman still exists. This serial sexual predator drugged these young women and sexually assaulted them! No wonder so many women don't report sexual assault. He, and he alone is responsible. The leading men on

defence is ludicrous. A man is not helpless in the face of crazed testosterone overload whenever confronted with a woman, sexy or otherwise. Sexual assault is a choice which speaks to arrogance, self entitlement, power/denigration of women dynamics.
 
Camper6 said:
Maybe it's just me. And I haven't read the whole thread. But. Doesn't the victims have some kind of responsibility in their life choices? Surely they cannot be that naive and that innocent.

Is it just me that feels that way?
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No it's not just you Camper and some "victims" can only become victims when things don't go their way. Again not all of them because there are many women in America and other countries that are forcibly raped and sometimes murdered and for those women I feel deep sympathy. I think most of the women in question here were not naïve or innocent but I wasn't there so I don't know the whole story there is usually two sides to consider
 

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