Countdown to the Russian invasion of Ukraine

I never fully understood why the Russians have such disregard and hate for the Jews. I do remember when I was in college and took a year of world history, our professor gave a lecture on the Jewish that lived in Germany, Russia and Ukraine. He stated that the reason the Germans hated the Jews was because they had blamed their loss of WWI on the Jews. This was why they decided to annihilate the Jewish population during WWII.

The Russians supposedly were taught that they were superior to the Jews. I think many, many Jews have settled in Ukraine. Both countries, Germany and Russia shared prejudices against the Jews. Both countries are still considered to be anti semitic.
 

Kyiv today accused Russia of trying to 'destabilise' Moldova's breakaway region that borders Ukraine after two explosions there prompted fears of Russia launching 'false flag' attacks to justify invading the territory.

The explosions destroyed two powerful Soviet-era radio antennas that were re-broadcasting Russian stations in the region of Transnistria, an unrecognised Moscow-backed sliver of land bordering southwestern Ukraine, on Tuesday.

The blasts occurred in the small town of Maiac roughly 12 kilometers (7 miles) west of the border with Ukraine, just days after a Kremlin military chief warned that 'Russian-speakers' had been 'oppressed' there.

A day earlier, several explosions believed to be caused by rocket-propelled grenades were reported to hit the Ministry of State Security in the city of Tiraspol, the region's capital. No one was hurt in the explosions, officials said.

On Tuesday, a military unit in the village of Parcani was also targeted. Officials did not offer any details on the incident, but declared a 'red level of terrorist threat' and promised to impose additional security measures in the region.

Ukrainian presidential adviser Mykhailo Podolyak accused Russia of trying to destabilise Transnistria and warned that 'if Ukraine falls tomorrow, Russian troops will be at Chisinau', the Moldovan capital.

'Russia wants to destabilise the Transnistrian region and hints Moldova should wait for 'guests',' Podolyak said.

'Good news, Ukraine will definitely ensure strategic security of the region. But we need to work as a team.'

The United States has warned amid the war in Ukraine that Russia could launch 'false-flag' attacks in nearby nations as a pretext for sending in troops.

Last week, Kremlin military chief Rustam Minnekayev said Russia sought control of southern Ukraine, which could provide access to Transnistria, 'where there have been cases of oppression of the Russian-speaking population'.

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The explosions destroyed two powerful Soviet-era radio antennas that were re-broadcasting Russian stations in the region of Transnistria, an unrecognised Moscow-backed sliver of land bordering southwestern Ukraine today Tuesday

Transnistria, a strip of land with about 470,000 people between Moldova and Ukraine, is recognised internationally as part of Moldova but is effectively controlled by Russia, which has given citizenship to separatists
For pictures, video and more story... https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...reakaway-Moldovan-region-borders-Ukraine.html
 
Ukraine is a tragedy. But, with NATO, and the U.S. continuing to ramp up military supplies and equipment to Ukraine, we are just increasing the odds that Putin will expand his attacks beyond Ukraine. The more "frustrated" Putin becomes with the setbacks the Russian military is experiencing, the more likely he will be to use a "tactical" nuke. If that happens, the world is Screwed!
If world gives into Putin now, he will be embolden to continue to take over more countries. Where to stop him? If a nuke is used, I'm sure he will say it was used by the west to blame Russia. Just like all the destruction to hospitals, schools, civilian homes wasn't done by Russian troops according to Putin. What all would you give because of threat of 'tactical nuke'? Ukraine, Poland, Europe, Alaska, California???? New Zealand, Australia, Fuji, etc look like pretty good places to live now.
 

The biggest concern I have is that the USA currently is not prepared to protect itself from a full out nuclear attack by Russia and/or China. Just like in 1941 when our government was 'asleep at the wheel' when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor! Pearl Harbor cost us thousands of lives that day, today, if attacked it will cost millions of lives....and begin WWIII. Which may not be survivable to most>>>
 
The biggest concern I have is that the USA currently is not prepared to protect itself from a full out nuclear attack by Russia and/or China. Just like in 1941 when our government was 'asleep at the wheel' when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor! Pearl Harbor cost us thousands of lives that day, today, if attacked it will cost millions of lives....and begin WWIII. Which may not be survivable to most>>>
we're the same, absolutely not prepared...we barely even have an army or navy now, much less fighting ones.. but he'd have to nuke us, and he knows it, because we'd still tan his hide in combat ..ready or not!
 
hollydolly....as the son of a WWII soldier, I love the United Kingdom, they stood alone for far too long in WWII, holding the German horde at bay! Only God knows what would have happened if the UK did not stop Hitler cold...!

They say, history repeats itself, hopefully not with the Russians...
 
Uk..pop : 67 million


Russia is 70 times bigger than the UK.. pop : 144 million
Germany is 1.5 times bigger. Pop : 83 million

Canada 41 times Larger : 38 million
Usa 40 times larger than the UK : 329 million
Brazil 35 times larger : Pop 212 million
Australia 35 times larger : 25 million
India 13 times larger... : Pop :1 billion, 380 million....

Well Brits are notoriously not afraid to stand up for themselves, but with Russia 70 times larger , and with a population of 80 million more, and now Putin getting into bed comfortably with India ... it would be a little bit of an unfair fight for this tiny Island, unless we had our friends from over the pond on our side and from the other side of the world..NZ & Australia .. as with the last war..

Anyway please god it never happens
 
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hollydolly...unfortunately, with things being what they are in Washington DC now, I fear that one cannot 'depend' on our help in a war situation. We lack intestinal fortitude by our leadership...! Don't worry through, numbers of soldiers or people really does not count in a nuclear war.
 
hollydolly...unfortunately, with things being what they are in Washington DC now, I fear that one cannot 'depend' on our help in a war situation. We lack intestinal fortitude by our leadership...! Don't worry through, numbers of soldiers or people really does not count in a nuclear war.
ok well I won't worry... I'll just wait to be nuked....😖

Actually I remember even when I was a child, my mother would talk then..60 years ago about the fact that any future wars would be nuclear.. ( altho' as we can see with Ukraine it's all on the ground combat)... but she would talk about how '' you won't know anything about it, you''ll get dissolved in a second''...

Other mothers read their children, fairy tales.. mine preferred to scare us to death!!
 
I heard on an NPR radio broadcast, that the Russian soldiers were ordered to kill all Ukraines they came in contact with. If that is true, I can’t understand why someone near Putin hasn’t sacrificed himself for the good of humanity by taking him out.
A question I am asking all the time.
 
hollydolly...unfortunately, with things being what they are in Washington DC now, I fear that one cannot 'depend' on our help in a war situation. We lack intestinal fortitude by our leadership...! Don't worry through, numbers of soldiers or people really does not count in a nuclear war.
Yes they can. The US military has 2 main concerns right now; refitting our big guns and radar systems so they can operate without our military satellites, and protecting our military satellites. Our military had fallen behind until congress OKed a huge budget several years ago, and they just OKed another one. Our military is playing catch-up now, but meanwhile we're using every non-military weapon at our disposal, like the toughest sanctions ever imposed, deep spies, the internet, and the market.
 
I never fully understood why the Russians have such disregard and hate for the Jews. I do remember when I was in college and took a year of world history, our professor gave a lecture on the Jewish that lived in Germany, Russia and Ukraine. He stated that the reason the Germans hated the Jews was because they had blamed their loss of WWI on the Jews. This was why they decided to annihilate the Jewish population during WWII.

The Russians supposedly were taught that they were superior to the Jews. I think many, many Jews have settled in Ukraine. Both countries, Germany and Russia shared prejudices against the Jews. Both countries are still considered to be anti semitic.

The history of Anti-Semitism is long and involved. But a short overview might give some basic structure to what has been going on.

The Catholic Church forbade usury, the loaning of money in the economic form that became capitalism.

That was true, right through the year 1400 or so.

As a result, the Christians (they were all Catholic back then), made the Jews in the community, the bankers. Since their religious laws forbade the kinds of economic dealings they wanted to make...they made the Jews the bankers.

And, guess what? The bankers were always the richest people...and so, the Jews who were made the bankers, were rich.

The rich are always envied. When they come from a different culture...they are more of a target.



So, the Christians made the Jews the bankers, then hated them for becoming bankers.


Can't make this stuff up.


That is a huge basis for all the Anti-Semitism in the modern world.


As far as the Nazis are concerned, it is really better to think of them not as an ideology, but as a Mafia. One of Hitler's inner circle, was, in fact, the actual Mafia boss of Berlin.

They were power hungry murderous thugs, murdering their way to the top of the political ladder. They used anything to gain power. Hatred of Jews was ripe in Europe at the time. Anger at the peace treaty of World War I was huge in Germany at the time. They used both things to get the public on their side. What did they actually believe?

Well, I think it was Goerbels...he had a sister. His sister was married to a guy who was either Jewish or half-Jewish. So, as an ideologue, what did he do? Did he have his sister arrested? Did he have her husband killed? Nope...he smuggled both of them out of Germany, with about 20 of their Jewish friends.

Personally, I think they were much more Mafia people than anything else. They built a city of mansions in Bavaria, I think. They all had incredible paintings and wine cellars and mistresses and you name it. They were not following some ideology...they were just stealing for themselves.

I am sure there was some Anti-Semitism in the mix, but most of it was for political expedience.
 
@JonSR77
315AD
Constantine I enacts various laws regarding the Jews: Jews are not allowed to own Christian slaves or to circumcise their slaves. Conversion of Christians to Judaism is outlawed. Congregations for religious services are restricted, but Jews are also allowed to enter the restituted Jerusalem on the anniversary of the Temple's destruction.
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1298
Accusations of Host desecration against the German Jews. More than 140 Jewish communities face forced conversions.
1298
During the civil war between Adolph of Nassau and Albrecht of Austria, German knight Rintfleisch claims to have received a mission from heaven to exterminate "the accursed race of the Jews". Under his leadership, the mob goes from town to town destroying Jewish communities and massacring about 100,000 Jews, often by mass burning at stake. Among 146 localities in Franconia, Bavaria and Austria are Röttingen (20 April), Würzburg (24 July), Nuremberg (1 August).
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Your reasoning as per banking is merely one part of more modern anti Jewish feelings. I'm sorry, but to rely on that one issue is simplistic. It goes deeper than that by over 1,000 years.
 
Uk..pop : 67 million


Russia is 70 times bigger than the UK.. pop : 144 million
Germany is 1.5 times bigger. Pop : 83 million

Canada 41 times Larger : 38 million
Usa 40 times larger than the UK : 329 million
Brazil 35 times larger : Pop 212 million
Australia 35 times larger : 25 million
India 13 times larger... : Pop :1 billion, 380 million....

Well Brits are notoriously not afraid to stand up for themselves, but with Russia 70 times larger , and with a population of 80 million more, and now Putin getting into bed comfortably with India ... it would be a little bit of an unfair fight for this tiny Island, unless we had our friends from over the pond on our side and from the other side of the world..NZ & Australia .. as with the last war..

Anyway please god it never happens

I guarantee you that the Russians do not want to fight the Germans. Not under any circumstances. Just like the Chinese don't ever want to fight the Japanese again.
 
met someone from Ukraine today.

Back at the dentist, re oral surgery I had.

One of the staff had an odd accent. I asked her where she was from.

She said,"Urkaine." I asked her if she had people still over there. She nodded.

She was very somber.

I felt horrible for her.

Very moving moment.

When it is live and in front of you....much more powerful.
 
we're the same, absolutely not prepared...we barely even have an army or navy now, much less fighting ones.. but he'd have to nuke us, and he knows it, because we'd still tan his hide in combat ..ready or not!
It's the same here although our defense minister on ANZAC day stated that we need to be prepared for War.
How on Earth do you prepare for a Nuclear attack without a pre-emptive strike first?
 
hollydolly...unfortunately, with things being what they are in Washington DC now, I fear that one cannot 'depend' on our help in a war situation. We lack intestinal fortitude by our leadership...! Don't worry through, numbers of soldiers or people really does not count in a nuclear war.

I disagree. The UK is our staunchest ally. We have a "special relationship" as well as the legal obligations that go with being NATO members to defend the UK if it is attacked by Russia. And every NATO member has the same obligation. Putin may be crazy, but he's not stupid, and I think he understands this as well.
 
Threat of a nuclear attack takes me back to school days when getting under a desk was a solution. Even though I have a desk that my computer & keyboard sit on I'm smarter now & know getting under it won't do me any good.
I just have start doing exercises to limber up enough to be able to bend over enough to kiss my own a$$ goodbye. :(
 
hollydolly...unfortunately, with things being what they are in Washington DC now, I fear that one cannot 'depend' on our help in a war situation. We lack intestinal fortitude by our leadership...! Don't worry through, numbers of soldiers or people really does not count in a nuclear war.
Sorry, but politics are not allowed in this forum. This is an interesting thread. Sorry you may have spoiled it.
 
Sorry, but politics are not allowed in this forum. This is an interesting thread. Sorry you may have spoiled it.
dseag2...."Come on man!" I used no names, no political parties, nothing political here! You want "political" look at JimBob1952 response to my post...
 


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