StarSong
Awkward is my Superpower
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US deaths are somewhere above 165,000 right now. @fmdog44 picked up the the wrong number for US deaths.
COVID-19 Vaccine math... Are my numbers wrong?
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For those who suggest that I use the "ignore" feature, I never put anybody on ignore. If anyone is making up complete nonsense about a life-threatening subject like this, I want to know about it. Not answering it just leaves the field open for more nonsense, and where does that end?
And also, by my nature, I am interested in scientific findings, and the evolution of knowledge. Remaining silent to utter claptrap just leaves the field open to anyone making stuff up, or quoting very "dubious" authorities. Or habitually posting sneering insults about hightly respected professionals who are knocking themselves out to try to solve a devastating health crisis. Anyone constantly doing that is inviting others to answer.
However, I do have my own mental "ignore" button, which sometimes gets triggered. In other words, I just skip over some of the entries at times, but I like to be in control of what I do or do not read. (I know that at times, some of these extreme points of view are deliberately being planted as "bait." So what? They still need to be answered.)
And also, by my nature, I am interested in scientific findings, and the evolution of knowledge. Remaining silent to utter claptrap just leaves the field open to anyone making stuff up, or quoting very "dubious" authorities. Or habitually posting sneering insults about hightly respected professionals who are knocking themselves out to try to solve a devastating health crisis. Anyone constantly doing that is inviting others to answer.
However, I do have my own mental "ignore" button, which sometimes gets triggered. In other words, I just skip over some of the entries at times, but I like to be in control of what I do or do not read. (I know that at times, some of these extreme points of view are deliberately being planted as "bait." So what? They still need to be answered.)
Copied and pasted from the CNN website (I don't know how to change the font size):
The US has 4% of the world's population but 25% of its coronavirus cases.
Aneeda72
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I only put people on ignore when I get overly frustrated and then take then off after I’ve regained my mind with one exception. Win asked me to put him on ignore and I refused. I like what he has to say sometimes. And, I’m sorry, but his insults are sometimes funny and witty.
Anyway, he makes things interesting as do others on the forum. There are people who do not appreciate my comments and opinions as well. As sunny says, just read them and move on; or don’t read them and move on. It’s not like we live next door to each other.
That’s truly horrible statistics.
Speaking of worry, I worry for the U.S.
There’s so much tragedy happened lately
How do we know this to be true? Yes, we have 4% of the world’s population, but not everyone in the U.S. has been tested, so how do we know that we have 25% of the cases?That’s truly horrible statistics.
Speaking of worry, I worry for the U.S.
There’s so much tragedy happened lately
OK, I believe you. I have always been gullible.Because they'd never tell us anything that wasn't true. That would be dishonest.
And I want you to listen to me because I'm going to say this just once: "I did not....have.....sex....with that woman."
Aneeda72
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I believe you too win, but what was the name of the woman you did not have sex with and is there a video?
And I want you to listen to me because I'm going to say this just once: "I did not....have.....sex....with that woman."
C'est Moi
Dishin' it out.
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That was precisely my point.
I remain unconvinced that any of the reported "statistics" are valid.
peramangkelder
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We would need approx. 8 Billion doses of Covid 19 vaccine worldwide to vaccinate every man, woman and child
Aneeda72
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Well, my dose will be available for a long time. I am not in a rush.We would need approx. 8 Billion doses of Covid 19 vaccine worldwide to vaccinate every man, woman and child
Well, since she's not a politician, it's probably OK to say her name - Monica Lewinsky. No video, but she was in a video when she became a spokesperson for Weight Watchers.I believe you too win, but what was the name of the woman you did not have sex with and is there a video?
She said, "I lost 40 lbs. on Weight Watchers. Now, I can fit under a desk again."
911, the 25% statistic is based on the number of cases that are known about so far. It's at least 25% of the world total, could be higher as the testing continues. But of course these figures are approximate. Every person on earth has not been tested, and never will.
It you google "Number of coronavirus cases worldwide," you will see a chart that tells you that the current number worldwide is 20.4. The current U.S. number is 5.26. In other words, approximately 25%.
squatting dog
Remember when... thirty seemed so old.
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Straight from the John Hopkins site............. Interesting read when you scroll through it entirely.
Differential diagnosis
- COVID-19 cannot be easily distinguished from other causes of a viral respiratory infection such as influenza, RSV, other respiratory viruses or community-acquired pneumonia based only on clinical grounds.
- Also, consider pulmonary embolus, acute myocardial infection, chest crisis (sickle cell disease), etc.
https://www.hopkinsguides.com/hopki.../540747/all/Coronavirus_COVID_19__SARS_CoV_2_
squatting dog
Remember when... thirty seemed so old.
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Perhaps the most egregious misrepresentation of reality is the media’s conflating a positive test result with the actual disease, COVID-19. These tests only test for the virus directly (PCR tests) or antibodies to the virus. COVID-19 is NOT a positive test; it is a clinical diagnosis of someone infected with SARS-COV-2 exhibiting severe respiratory illness characterized by fever, coughing and shortness of breath.
The media is intentionally confusing a positive test result with COVID-19 to deliberately mislead the public into believing the disease is far more serious than it is. They know better but consciously choose this despicable practice. A recent example would be CNN’s article, “Florida Has More COVID-19 Than Most Countries in the World.”4
They refer to the positive test as a “case.” This is beyond stretching reality to suit their nefarious purposes. A case is NOT a positive test result but, rather, a person that has a positive test result and is seriously ill. But you would never know it by reading their article.
Further down in their fear-mongering article is a subhead, “Florida Has Surpassed Italy in COVID-19 Cases, Too.” But at the very end of the article they finally admit the truth: Even though Florida surpassed Italy in “cases,” they had nearly 90% FEWER deaths — the metric that really counts, unless your goal is to perpetuate needless fear into the population.
The media is intentionally confusing a positive test result with COVID-19 to deliberately mislead the public into believing the disease is far more serious than it is. They know better but consciously choose this despicable practice. A recent example would be CNN’s article, “Florida Has More COVID-19 Than Most Countries in the World.”4
They refer to the positive test as a “case.” This is beyond stretching reality to suit their nefarious purposes. A case is NOT a positive test result but, rather, a person that has a positive test result and is seriously ill. But you would never know it by reading their article.
Further down in their fear-mongering article is a subhead, “Florida Has Surpassed Italy in COVID-19 Cases, Too.” But at the very end of the article they finally admit the truth: Even though Florida surpassed Italy in “cases,” they had nearly 90% FEWER deaths — the metric that really counts, unless your goal is to perpetuate needless fear into the population.
StarSong
Awkward is my Superpower
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- Los Angeles Suburbs
And that's presuming each person needs only one dose rather than a series.We would need approx. 8 Billion doses of Covid 19 vaccine worldwide to vaccinate every man, woman and child
MarciKS
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And in another thread this morning they're already discussing the face that we may need one every few months.
StarSong
Awkward is my Superpower
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Precisely. Some of the symptoms are similar, which is why "clinical grounds" (observed) are insufficient.
It doesn't state that a positive COVID laboratory test could instead be showing flu, RSV, pneumonia, etc.
There seems to little uniformity for being tested. So unless any statistic is put in proper context it's basically meaningless. That includes who and when those are tested. Some places offer testing to ever wants it others have to be an essential worker or ill.
Personally I the virus is a look more prevelent than most think as are many other diseases, viruses etc. Testing is only validation not a full count.
Personally I the virus is a look more prevelent than most think as are many other diseases, viruses etc. Testing is only validation not a full count.
Encouraging to read a post from a thinking person instead of a programmed robot.Name me a man - any man - who will not lie about an extramarital affair. It is coded into the male DNA.
And I want you to listen to me because I'm going to say this just once: "I did not....have.....sex....with that woman."
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hellomimi
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