Depression

PeppermintPatty said:
Snap out of it!
Suck it up!
Get over it!
Grow up!
Grow a pair!
Let it go!
Just forget it!
You’re not even trying!
We all have bad days!
You’re being lazy!
You’re exaggerating!
It can’t be that bad!
Stop your nonsense!
Just try harder!
You don’t look/ sound depressed!
You don’t seem sad!
You’re being selfish!
Things could be worse?
You think you have it bad …
It’s all in your head!
You’re doing this to yourself!
You only think of yourself!
You’ve got this blown out of proportion!
This will pass!
It’s all part of Gods plan!
Try and think positive!
This isn’t like you!
You just need a drink!
You just need a good nights sleep!
Cheer up!
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Man, this should come with a freaking trigger warning. :(
How many times have we all heard the above all our lives?
 

Okay, we were just talking about dragging things up repeatedly in another thread so I'm reticent to do this, but I've been thinking about @Lee here and I'm feeling like she might have gotten caught in one of those situations, which we've all probably been in, where you just say whatever's on your mind without really catching the feel of the thread and the post. A "not reading the room" situation which may not have been meant to be the callous statement it came out as.

Of course we all got upset at this as it is, unfortunately, the exact kind of statement we've all been pushed aside and made to feel weak or invisible with so many times.

However, she may not have meant it that way and, as @Pepper pointed out, may even have been talking out loud to herself.

It's just unfortunate that happened here.

I'm thinking though that'd I hate for Lee or anyone who needs to talk to feel unwelcome. Maybe she didn't come in with a machine gun, but simply tripped on the rug on her way in. It happens to me all the time.
 
Medusa said:
Okay, we were just talking about dragging things up repeatedly in another thread so I'm reticent to do this, but I've been thinking about @Lee here and I'm feeling like she might have gotten caught in one of those situations, which we've all probably been in, where you just say whatever's on your mind without really catching the feel of the thread and the post. A "not reading the room" situation which may not have been meant to be the callous statement it came out as.

Of course we all got upset at this as it is, unfortunately, the exact kind of statement we've all been pushed aside and made to feel weak or invisible with so many times.

However, she may not have meant it that way and, as @Pepper pointed out, may even have been talking out loud to herself.

It's just unfortunate that happened here.

I'm thinking though that'd I hate for Lee or anyone who needs to talk to feel unwelcome. Maybe she didn't come in with a machine gun, but simply tripped on the rug on her way in. It happens to me all the time.
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We all makes mistakes and we’ve all been told off at one point or another.
I trip on the carpet all the time and sometimes post in topics like I have a machine under my coat. It’s all part of forum life and I hope is forgivable stuff. Just because someone speaks their mind about a questionable post doesn’t mean they are condemned forever.

Theres a saying that we judge other people by their words and actions but judge ourselves by our intentions.
 

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PeppermintPatty said:
We all makes mistakes and we’ve all been told off at one point or another.
I trip on the carpet all the time and sometimes post in topics like I have a machine under my coat. It’s all part of forum life and forgivable stuff. Just because someone speaks their mind about a questionable post doesn’t mean they are condemned forever.

Theres a saying that we judge other people by their words and actions but judge ourselves by our intentions.
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Can I just add that I see your comments, which I completely agreed with, as directed more at the post content than the poster.
 
We made this forum to be a place to support one another which we have been doing. It’s been a great place to share information with one another.

Some people don’t share the same sentiment and that’s ok. They don’t have to. I think focussing on the people who don’t wish to support this section is counterproductive to supporting each other.

P.S. I supported the forum but never reported the post. 🫤
 
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PeppermintPatty said:
We made this forum to be a place to support one another which we have been doing. It’s been a great place to share information with one another.

Some people don’t share the same sentiment and that’s ok. They don’t have to. I think focussing on the people who don’t wish to support this section is counterproductive to supporting each other.
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Yep. I have to agree. I was trying to help, but I think I should have just left it.
 
Medusa said:
Okay, we were just talking about dragging things up repeatedly in another thread so I'm reticent to do this, but I've been thinking about @Lee here and I'm feeling like she might have gotten caught in one of those situations, which we've all probably been in, where you just say whatever's on your mind without really catching the feel of the thread and the post. A "not reading the room" situation which may not have been meant to be the callous statement it came out as.

Of course we all got upset at this as it is, unfortunately, the exact kind of statement we've all been pushed aside and made to feel weak or invisible with so many times.

However, she may not have meant it that way and, as @Pepper pointed out, may even have been talking out loud to herself.

It's just unfortunate that happened here.

I'm thinking though that'd I hate for Lee or anyone who needs to talk to feel unwelcome. Maybe she didn't come in with a machine gun, but simply tripped on the rug on her way in. It happens to me all the time.
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I must admit, when I first read @Lee post I didn’t pick up so much on what others felt they saw. Only when other’s pointed it out, did I pick up on it, or so I thought?

So after now reading your post, I'm left wondering what is the true meaning of Lee's post? Might it be specific regarding a specific situation, and one that we are not privy too? Collectively, did we give lee the opportunity to clarify?

I'm also wondering how easy is it for us all to judge someone’s words based on how we see others later judging them. We can all be susceptible to this, I think. And as a consequence, completely miss what someone was or is trying to say. And then walk away from trying to understand what they were trying to say. A bit rude on our part perhaps?
 
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Dustbunny said:
Yep, if you aren't bleeding, most people think you are just having a bad hair day.
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Yes…you are so right. Sad personal story here. My best friend at university took her own life and I feel guilt to this day.

The reason being, I was young, I did not understand what was happening to her. I was one of those people who could not see. Many times I thought she was playing up.

Today, people are learning at a young age what depression is all about…keep learning.
 
Jamala said:
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Yes…you are so right. Sad personal story here. My best friend at university took her own life and I feel guilt to this day.

The reason being, I was young, I did not understand what was happening to her. I was one of those people who could not see. Many times I thought she was playing up.

Today, people are learning at a young age what depression is all about…keep learning.
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I think often when someone commits suicide, everyone is shocked, no matter the circumstances beforehand. People simply can't know and should never take guilt onto themselves, especially young people. ♥

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All we have here are our words.

If you’re on forums much at all you all know how easy it is to misunderstand someone’s post or to have your own post misunderstood. It’s so freaking easy when you can’t see facial expression or hear tone of voice. 🤦🏼‍♀️

So it behooves both the poster AND the reader to extend some grace. The reader needs to be damn sure the poster meant what they said. And the only way to do that is to refuse to be offended until the post is clarified by the author.

The poster needs to make sure to make their post as unambiguous as possible in all the ways available..lots of explanations, emoji, appropriate punctuation etc. and even then, to be open to the fact that it’s STILL possible that more clarification is needed. Why do you think I talk so damn much here?? 😂🤦🏼‍♀️

We’re supposed to be friendly here. To do our best to understand. To support each other…I mean, let’s face it, it ain’t no fun getting old, but it sure beats the alternative!!

So how about we extend grace, cut each other some slack, and assume the best rather than the worst of each other? ❤️😇😍
 
PeppermintPatty said:
Really. I shall look this up and see if it’s something I can take. I’d seriously love to take something that helps me sleep AND helps with depression. That would be ideal.
Thank you 🙏

I think Nathan said the same thing but this thread is going so fast I can’t keep up. Lol
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It was actually me who also mentioned Trazadone. It was given to my mother in hospice to help her sleep. I had tried Ambien and it made me do crazy things (like sleepwalk). For me, 50mg of Trazadone does the trick. I tried taking 100mg at first and stumbled around until I went to bed.

Later I learned it was used as an anti-depressant in the 60's and 70's. It is also non-narcotic so my doctor can prescribe refills without seeing me. It may be worth a try.
 
seadoug said:
It was actually me who also mentioned Trazadone. It was given to my mother in hospice to help her sleep. I had tried Ambien and it made me do crazy things (like sleepwalk). For me, 50mg of Trazadone does the trick. I tried taking 100mg at first and stumbled around until I went to bed.

Later I learned it was used as an anti-depressant in the 60's and 70's. It is also non-narcotic so my doctor can prescribe refills without seeing me. It may be worth a try.
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I had been breaking my 50mg tablets in half,was working fine. But then refills were with smaller sized 50mg tablets, which were difficult to break, so I just started using the whole dose.
 
@PeppermintPatty I can relate to dealing with depression your whole life. Someone once told me if you're a woman in this society it would be odd if you weren't depressed.

From the time I was a young child and till I was about 18 I was abused and I won't say what kind of abuse I will not say because it triggers me when I do. The abuse didn't end just changed the kind of abuse happening throughout my life. But I endured many forms of abuse.

Depression, I believe was a natural result of those experiences. I feel especially bad during anniversaries of that abuse starting which is this month.

My life has had much depression, yes, but there have been some good and fun times too. I try to look forward to times, even if just moments, of better times and things.

Medicine has helped as well as therapy but I have not found a lasting cure. Just being honest about it.
 
. 2 Corinthians 5:17 - this always keeps me moving on? - but whilst it is for everyone it may NOT be chosen by everyone [we still have free will] - just sayin that's all
 
Jamala said:
How do you know they are doing " nothing to get out of that state"??
It does not matter how "big"a girl you are or how "big your panties" are ...you are vulnerable and I really do think you should apologise to all those suffering with depression...I really do!
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I'm surprised at you Jamala!
Lee is speaking of those she knows and there are people who are like that.
It doesn't serve you to be sanctimonious.
 
Ruthanne said:
@PeppermintPatty I can relate to dealing with depression your whole life. Someone once told me if you're a woman in this society it would be odd if you weren't depressed.

From the time I was a young child and till I was about 18 I was abused and I won't say what kind of abuse I will not say because it triggers me when I do. The abuse didn't end just changed the kind of abuse happening throughout my life. But I endured many forms of abuse.

Depression, I believe was a natural result of those experiences. I feel especially bad during anniversaries of that abuse starting which is this month.

My life has had much depression, yes, but there have been some good and fun times too. I try to look forward to times, even if just moments, of better times and things.

Medicine has helped as well as therapy but I have not found a lasting cure. Just being honest about it.
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there are some good and new therapies around but they may not be cheap depending which country you are in??

sexual abuse therapies
 
Ronni said:
All we have here are our words.

If you’re on forums much at all you all know how easy it is to misunderstand someone’s post or to have your own post misunderstood. It’s so freaking easy when you can’t see facial expression or hear tone of voice. 🤦🏼‍♀️

So it behooves both the poster AND the reader to extend some grace. The reader needs to be damn sure the poster meant what they said. And the only way to do that is to refuse to be offended until the post is clarified by the author.

The poster needs to make sure to make their post as unambiguous as possible in all the ways available..lots of explanations, emoji, appropriate punctuation etc. and even then, to be open to the fact that it’s STILL possible that more clarification is needed. Why do you think I talk so damn much here?? 😂🤦🏼‍♀️

We’re supposed to be friendly here. To do our best to understand. To support each other…I mean, let’s face it, it ain’t no fun getting old, but it sure beats the alternative!!

So how about we extend grace, cut each other some slack, and assume the best rather than the worst of each other? ❤️😇😍
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thanks ronni one of the very best posts I have read for a long time! three cheers
 

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