Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison:

[OneEyedDiva]

You're right, not part of the sentance. Also, as previously pointed out, the stabbing has no connection to the Justice system. Stabbing, slashing and rapes are what inmates do, in their social heirachy. May sound twisted, but prison society is a reflection of the greater society outside of the prison walls .

As the show Baretta's theme song said "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime." Maybe Chauvin should have watched a few episodes of Scared Straight before he kneeled on George Floyd's neck until he died. But then again, he probably didn't think he'd ever be convicted. People who do certain crimes get their a*ses kicked when they get to prison (yes, including rapes, stabbings, severe beatings). Cops already know it will be tough on cops. He should have thought about that before he so intently (I'll never forget the look on his face) applied pressure to Mr. Floyd's neck. @Myrtle

 

[Knight]

As the show Baretta's theme song said "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime." Maybe Chauvin should have watched a few episodes of Scared Straight before he kneeled on George Floyd's neck until he died. But then again, he probably didn't think he'd ever be convicted. People who do certain crimes get their a*ses kicked when they get to prison (yes, including rapes, stabbings, severe beatings). Cops already know it will be tough on cops. He should have thought about that before he so intently (I'll never forget the look on his face) applied pressure to Mr. Floyd's neck. @Myrtle

That almost sounds like Chauvin got out of bed intent on killing Floyd. When doing his job he was using a police tactic, the problem is he didn't let up. Listening to the videos of Floyd complaining of not being able to breathe before Chauvin did what he did could have played a role in the outcome. I don't know what Chavin mindset was I do know he is paying for what he did because that is how our system is supposed to work.

 

[ohioboy]

" Chauvin's knee on his neck for no reason, he would still be alive."

Chauvin's knee was on his neck as a taught maneuver when making an arrest, of a resisting criminal.

You keep harping on the fact it was a dept. approved tactic. So freaking what. Any reasonably prudent officer should possess enough intelligence to NOT do it. The general Civil standard for Negligence is "What a reasonably prudent person would or would not do in the same or similar circumstances". No reasonably
Prudent person kneels on someone's neck, much less for 8 or 9 minutes.

 

[SeaBreeze]

You keep harping on the fact it was a dept. approved tactic. So freaking what. Any reasonably prudent officer should possess enough intelligence to NOT do it. The general Civil standard for Negligence is "What a reasonably prudent person would or would not do in the same or similar circumstances". No reasonably
Prudent person kneels on someone's neck, much less for 8 or 9 minutes.

People around him were begging him to stop, he knowingly, intentionally and deliberately ignored all warnings and was determined to kill that man.

 

[rgp]

You keep harping on the fact it was a dept. approved tactic. So freaking what. Any reasonably prudent officer should possess enough intelligence to NOT do it. The general Civil standard for Negligence is "What a reasonably prudent person would or would not do in the same or similar circumstances". No reasonably
Prudent person kneels on someone's neck, much less for 8 or 9 minutes.

If it was/is what they are taught to do ... why would they not do it ? He was keeping Floyd detained until the squad arrived . That took the 8-9 minutes.

If you ever have a need for the police ... call a criminal, I'm sure they'd be glad to help.

I have no use for criminals ... I'm glad he is off the street permanently.

 

[Knight]

People around him were begging him to stop, he knowingly, intentionally and deliberately ignored all warnings and was determined to kill that man.

Or to reduce the aggressive non compliant arrest resisting tactic Floyd was using. The video HollyDolly posted shows 32 minutes of footage. It begins with tapping on the window where Floyd was seated behind the steering wheel.

In the video when the officers were trying to put him in the back seat of the patrol car. Still resisting Floyd suddenly became claustrophobic & couldn't breath.

I think saying he was determined to kill that man is stretching the unknown.

I'm not excusing the fact that Chauvin's action caused Floyd's death just trying to look at the event from a more analytical way.

 

[Rakaia]

call a criminal, I'm sure they'd be glad to help

I'm astounded at your trolling and doubling down.
Are you so naive to think that no cop ever did anything wrong?
It's odd that some random from Downunder has 2 degrees of separation from both parties in this situation, my understanding is that both were standover men.

 

[SeaBreeze]

Or to reduce the aggressive non compliant arrest resisting tactic Floyd was using. The video HollyDolly posted shows 32 minutes of footage. It begins with tapping on the window where Floyd was seated behind the steering wheel.

In the video when the officers were trying to put him in the back seat of the patrol car. Still resisting Floyd suddenly became claustrophobic & couldn't breath.

I think saying he was determined to kill that man is stretching the unknown.

I'm not excusing the fact that Chauvin's action caused Floyd's death just trying to look at the event from a more analytical way.

Well, the ultimate result was death due to Chauvin kneeling on his neck for those last nine minutes when he obviously could barely breath and he had other cops right there to assist him if he allowed that, which he didn't.

I know he initially resisted arrest, but when he was lying on his stomach with the cop's knee on his neck, he was no longer a threat and in no way able to resist, just staying alive was his hope.

The cop killed the man for no reason. This thread is about the cop gettting stabbed while in prison, which is not uncommon for imprisoned criminals like killers. Once again, Mr. Floyd would welcome a knife in the gut instead of the death sentence he received by the cop who acted as judge, jury and executioner.

Too many cases of Black Americans getting murdered by rogue racist cops, or hillbilly gun nutter inbreds. Tired of seeing this behavior in the USA, we have a justice system that deals with those arrested and if some gun nutters see a Black American jogging down the road, they need to call the cops if indeed a crime was committed, not take it upon themselves to hunt him down and shoot him to death. Enough is enough already!

 

[rgp]

I'm astounded at your trolling and doubling down.
Are you so naive to think that no cop ever did anything wrong?
It's odd that some random from Downunder has 2 degrees of separation from both parties in this situation, my understanding is that both were standover men.

I never said cops do no wrong , I said Chauvin followed his training and did as he was taught . It just went wrong for the drug addled criminal.

 

[Rakaia]

I never said cops do no wrong , I said Chauvin followed his training and did as he was taught . It just went wrong for the drug addled criminal.

Oh my my, I'm still astounded at your attachment to the high moral ground.
I'm of the school of thought that the only time you look down on someone is when you're giving them a hand up. In my current work in community services and mental health, I have met and worked numerous *drug addled criminals,* not all are beyond redemption.
The MPD has also shown it's inadequate training in the instance of an Australian woman who called 911 for *service and protection*, she died from an MPD bullet not long after making that call. MPD's training and culture is/was questionable at best.

 

[Rakaia]

I never said cops do no wrong

I never said you were a racist.

 

[rgp]

Oh my my, I'm still astounded at your attachment to the high moral ground.
I'm of the school of thought that the only time you look down on someone is when you're giving them a hand up. In my current work in community services and mental health, I have met and worked numerous *drug addled criminals,* not all are beyond redemption.
The MPD has also shown it's inadequate training in the instance of an Australian woman who called 911 for *service and protection*, she died from an MPD bullet not long after making that call. MPD's training and culture is/was questionable at best.

I'm not looking down on anyone ... merely stating fact.

 

[rgp]

I never said you were a racist.

Your post makes no sence ?

I never said, you said I was a racist .

But you did say I felt [in my comments] that cops do no wrong.

And again, not taking any moral high ground .... The facts lead me to my comments period.

 

[DonnyO]

well floyd didn't kill anyone.. he was in his car , asleep.. so you think he deserves to be killed for that ?

Try watching the tape. The whole tape.

 

[DonnyO]

People around him were begging him to stop, he knowingly, intentionally and deliberately ignored all warnings and was determined to kill that man.

Drugs killed the man. That was an approved hold my the Police Department.

 

[ohioboy]

Try watching the tape. The whole tape.

Holly said he did not kill anyone, which he did not. Watching the tape is irrelevant to her statement.

 

[rgp]

Try watching the tape. The whole tape.

Exactly ... it was posted here by @Della.

In post #68

 

[Nathan]

I never said cops do no wrong , I said Chauvin followed his training and did as he was taught . It just went wrong for the drug addled criminal.

Chaivin FAILED to follow his training obviously, as his arrestee died due to misapplication of a restraint technique.

 

[DonnyO]

Well, the ultimate result was death due to Chauvin kneeling on his neck for those last nine minutes when he obviously could barely breath and he had other cops right there to assist him if he allowed that, which he didn't.

I know he initially resisted arrest, but when he was lying on his stomach with the cop's knee on his neck, he was no longer a threat and in no way able to resist, just staying alive was his hope.

The cop killed the man for no reason. This thread is about the cop gettting stabbed while in prison, which is not uncommon for imprisoned criminals like killers. Once again, Mr. Floyd would welcome a knife in the gut instead of the death sentence he received by the cop who acted as judge, jury and executioner.

Too many cases of Black Americans getting murdered by rogue racist cops, or hillbilly gun nutter inbreds. Tired of seeing this behavior in the USA, we have a justice system that deals with those arrested and if some gun nutters see a Black American jogging down the road, they need to call the cops if indeed a crime was committed, not take it upon themselves to hunt him down and shoot him to death. Enough is enough already!

Great argument especially the hillbilly gun nutter comment. Anyone who does not believe what you believe? We are supposed to get wiser as we get older.

 

[OneEyedDiva]

I never said you were a racist.

Maybe you didn't say it, but I have in prior threads. If it quacks like a duck.....

 

[Knight]

It's been over 3 years since Floyd died due to the excessive time Chauvin kneeled on Floyd's neck. At the time that police method of dealing with a suspect that was resisting was used.

As a topic with over 144 posts the identity of the inmate doing the stabbing isn't known. The motive isn't known but many [suspect revenge] is. It would great if in article the name, race & motive of the person doing the stabbing was known. But that info wasn't there. Poor journalism, great attention grabber to sell a story.

The prior facts are known, for me the interest generated & variety of opinion posts are far better than the article.

 

[Nathan]

It's been over 3 years since Floyd died due to the excessive time Chauvin kneeled on Floyd's neck. At the time that police method of dealing with a suspect that was resisting was used.

As a topic with over 144 posts the identity of the inmate doing the stabbing isn't known. The motive isn't known but many [suspect revenge] is. It would great if in article the name, race & motive of the person doing the stabbing was known. But that info wasn't there. Poor journalism, great attention grabber to sell a story.

The prior facts are known, for me the interest generated & variety of opinion posts are far better than the article.

What if it was a white boy who stabbed Chauvin because he was a cop? Probably wouldn't be as satisfying or invoke the desired outrage than if the assailant were black. If there were any witnesses they would surely keep their mouths shut...

 

[Knight]

What if it was a white boy who stabbed Chauvin because he was a cop? Probably wouldn't be as satisfying or invoke the desired outrage than if the assailant were black. If there were any witnesses they would surely keep their mouths shut...

I agree that any witnesses black or white would surely keep their mouths shut. Since what if's are part of this.
1.What if Chauvin wasn't a cop?
2.What if any of the three other cops stepped in and pulled Chauvin off Floyd?
3.What if Floyd didn't resist when cops were trying to place him in the back of the police car.
4.What if the store manager hadn't accused Floyd of passing a phony $20.00 bill

1.Chauvin was a cop doing what cops are supposed to do. Seek out the accused & place under arrest.
2.he other three were convicted because they didn't
3.No resistance no need for the tactic used
4.The store manager did and that began the series of events that caused Cauvin to show up to begin his duty to do what his job was about.

What if the journalist writing the article included race & motive? Would we be posting about this?

 

[Rakaia]

But you did say I felt [in my comments] that cops do no wrong

I did not say that at all, yet you claim that I did.
Maybe now you can begin to comprehend why I facetiously stated that I never said you were a racist.
If you want to be reliant on facts learn the difference between a statement and a question.

 

[againstthegrain]

Maybe if MN didn't have qualified immunity for police Chauvin and many other cops would have a different outlook and/or would have been removed after facing lawsuits from civilians that filed complaints against him instead of their complaints meeting the blue wall of silence.