Derek Chauvin stabbed in prison:

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rgp said:
Floyd's past wasn't part of the arrest,and Cahuvin wasn'tbeing judge,jury & executioner, he was making an arrest by the book ... plain & simple. {I} pointed out Floyd's past criminal record ... these are the kind of people the police deal with every day on the street in an attempt to keep the rest of us safe. If one wants to remove all chance of dying in an encounter with the police ....behave ! It's just that simple.
Also, I never said anyone was above the law, but Chauvin never should have been charged.
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It was deliberate murder, that is why the killer cop was charged with his modern day lynching. Mr. Floyd was doing nothing that warranted his death. We watched the murderer kill Mr. Floyd. Citizens, Black and White throughout the country were angry and disgusted by the actions of this racist pig.

May Mr. Floyd rest peacefully, sympathy to his family.
 
Paladin1950 said:
There are alot of great police officers in this country. No one is condemning them. Just one heartless bastard who probably would behaved differently if the man he killed was of his own race. May he spend the rest of his life in prison and spend every day reflecting back on just why he is there. No pity. He doesn't deserve any. He wasn't doing his job at all. Open your mind and eyes. Just look at that picture of Chauvin with his knee on Floyd's neck. No compassion. No pity when Floyd was calling out. Look at that face and those eyes. No kindness. No humanity at all. Just a cold hearted man with no compassion at all.
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Good post, and I agree. There are many good officers in this country, and bad cops like this killer leave a poor reflection on them all. There is no doubt, if Mr. Floyd was a white man, he'd still be alive and breathing today. No doubt.
 

SeaBreeze said:
Good post, and I agree. There are many good officers in this country, and bad cops like this killer leave a poor reflection on them all. There is no doubt, if Mr. Floyd was a white man, he'd still be alive and breathing today. No doubt.
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Why are you so sure of that?

Do you think if a white man refused to get out of the car when police showed up so that they had to call in reinforcement and then only got out of the car after a gun was drawn, then began claiming "I can't breath," while still standing ( a common way criminals try to get out of going to jail) and then the white man struggled with the police, then he had to be forced into the back of the van, then he continued to struggle with the police so much the police car shook, then got out of the car and had to be held down.

All over the course of a long difficult hour. You think that white man wouldn't have had the same neck hold put on him?

In 2021, 446 white men were killed by the police. That's the reality of police work with criminals, not your certain fantasy.
 
Della said:
Why are you so sure of that?

Do you think if a white man refused to get out of the car when police showed up so that they had to call in reinforcement and then only got out of the car after a gun was drawn, then began claiming "I can't breath," while still standing ( a common way criminals try to get out of going to jail) and then the white man struggled with the police, then he had to be forced into the back of the van, then he continued to struggle with the police so much the police car shook, then got out of the car and had to be held down.

All over the course of a long difficult hour. You think that white man wouldn't have had the same neck hold put on him?

In 2021, 446 white men were killed by the police. That's the reality of police work with criminals, not your certain fantasy.
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If Mr. Floyd was white, he would still be alive and breathing.

They can use any holds they need to on any suspect, cuff him and arrest him. Kneeling on his neck until death is a modern day lynching that would not have happened if he were white.

We all know about police work, we all know there are times especially when someone points a gun at an officer, that the cop must make the decision for deadly force. This is not the case.

He was deliberately and slowly murdered by a racist pig, who would never kill a white person in that manner.

You can deny it, but I don't like the modern day lynchings because I'm not a racist, and black lives do matter to me and many other Americans. It is clear that Mr. Floyd was murdered on that day for no good reason, other than his skin color.
 
SeaBreeze said:
If Mr. Floyd was white, he would still be alive and breathing.
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It is clear that Mr. Floyd was murdered on that day for no good reason, other than his skin color.
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While I understand what you're saying and perhaps race played into it, there really is a deeper underlying problem to police culture and there has been since policing and policemen came into being.

The problem can be defined in 4 words of John Emerich Edward Dalberg-Acton in April, 1887:

"absolute power corrupts absolutely"
 
Della said:
You must not have watched the trial. I saw about fifteen cops in a row testify against Chauvin. They were only too eager to throw him under the bus in order to distance themselves from him. They knew how public opinion was going and they all wanted to save themselves from being associated with him. The mob outside the court house ruled the day, justice had nothing to do with his sentence.
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But, cops do take care of cops. As one who frequently associated with them in a parallel job cops are only as good as the worst of them because if they point him out they know no one is coming when they desperately call for a back up. They've broken the code. Everyone covers for everyone else. The citizen is quickly judged and sentenced by the cops long before he gets to trial. That is not the rule of law. Don't believe for a moment that what happened to Floyd can't happen to you.
 
Della said:
You must not have watched the trial. I saw about fifteen cops in a row testify against Chauvin. They were only too eager to throw him under the bus in order to distance themselves from him. They knew how public opinion was going and they all wanted to save themselves from being associated with him.
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..or it could be these officers were sick and tired of his actions while working with him, and had been praying for the day he'd get his comeuppance
 
Della said:
You must not have watched the trial. I saw about fifteen cops in a row testify against Chauvin. They were only too eager to throw him under the bus in order to distance themselves from him. They knew how public opinion was going and they all wanted to save themselves from being associated with him. The mob outside the court house ruled the day, justice had nothing to do with his sentence.
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It seems like you're excusing the 3 cops on scene that did NOTHING to prevent Floyd's death. Or the civilian complaint review board that did not get him off the police force. Or his cop superiors that kept him employed after being fully aware of his bad record as a cop.
 
hollydolly said:
..or it could be these officers were sick and tired of his actions while working with him, and had been praying for the day he'd get his comeuppance
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He was surrounded by other officers who could have helped him do his job, but he did not seem to allow them to help, he wanted to do it his way, using a slow death method. He had no intention of bringing Mr. Floyd to jail for his alleged crime of passing a fake twenty dollar bill. I don't think those officers had a choice, with the killer cop being so dominant and determined to kill. Personalities like Chauvin should not be allowed to wear a badge or carry a firearm.
 
SeaBreeze said:
He was surrounded by other officers who could have helped him do his job, but he did not seem to allow them to help, he wanted to do it his way, using a slow death method. He had no intention of bringing Mr. Floyd to jail for his alleged crime of passing a fake twenty dollar bill. I don't think those officers had a choice, with the killer cop being so dominant and determined to kill. Personalities like Chauvin should not be allowed to wear a badge or carry a firearm.
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yes that's what I'm saying..I think his fellow officers were probably sick of him and his bullying actions...
 
hollydolly said:
yes that's what I'm saying..I think his fellow officers were probably sick of him and his bullying actions...
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You're giving them to much credit. They had 19 years to get rid of him and they didn't. They actually like the bullying, most are tyrants and they have no fear of abusing people. I think it would different if there was no video, he would have gotten away w it.
 
againstthegrain said:
You're giving them to much credit. They had 19 years to get rid of him and they didn't. They actually like the bullying, most are tyrants and they have no fear of abusing people. I think it would different if there was no video, he would have gotten away w it.
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I'm not talking about his superiors I'm talking about his peers... and his underlings, who for all we know may have complained about him time and time again
 
Chavin was judged, is paying for what he did. Why have a justice system if while incarcerated for a crime the accused is attacked & it's recognized as something inevitable?
 
Knight said:
Chavin was judged, is paying for what he did. Why have a justice system if while incarcerated for a crime the accused is attacked & it's recognized as something inevitable?
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Kind of a strange question, there is no connection between the Justice System and prison attacks by inmates.

Jeffrey Dahmer was sent to prison for his heinous crimes(Justice System), some inmate beat his brains out with a mop wringer, probably because of Dahmer's notoriety. Charles Manson was attacked numerous times while in prison, again due to his high profile.
 
Knight said:
Chavin was judged, is paying for what he did. Why have a justice system if while incarcerated for a crime the accused is attacked & it's recognized as something inevitable?
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would you think the same if it was your child, or family member who he held down and choked to death ?
 

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