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I get the impression that most of us here are of a similar age ? or at the least of the same generation ?

Is it just myself or...Has anyone else noticed the almost sudden ? Constant advertising for diabetes medicines ? It seems to me that , go back just five years, and the ads were much less numerous..10 years for sure.

My question(s) are A: is it suddenly an increasing / widespread disease ? B: a disease that has increased in severity ? Or are we being lied to in some manner ? Has it become a gold mine for big-pharma. Are the numbers not as serious as we are led to believe? But the fear of those numbers make us eager to buy these medicines?

It just seems to me that the ads are everywhere and constant.

On radio this morning I noticed a number of ads, I received two magazines subscriptions , two ads in each magazine. Turned on the TV , seems like an ad at every commercial break...??
 

"A: is it suddenly an increasing / widespread disease ? B: a disease that has increased in severity ?"

For the most part, I think yes. We get fatter every year. Our children are Fruit-Looping their way into it, too. This causes diabetes, even when your family has no history of it.

All of our labor-saving machines cause us more immobility, so unless you can afford a gym membership with a walking-machine, weights, then sit in the recliner and don't burn off those calories from a long-stack of pancakes with syrup.
 
Well, about a third of the U.S. (~100 million people) has diabetes, so I don't think we're being lied to.

The commercials ARE pervasive, though. And yes, it IS a goldmine for pharmaceutical types.
 

SifuPhil said:
Well, about a third of the U.S. (~100 million people) has diabetes, so I don't think we're being lied to.

The commercials ARE pervasive, though. And yes, it IS a goldmine for pharmaceutical types.
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Pharmaceutical goldmine? You betcha!

I think not ALL diabetics get this disease from excess weight but most do. Some just inherit. My grandmother had it.
 
RadishRose said:
Pharmaceutical goldmine? You betcha!

I think not ALL diabetics get this disease from excess weight but most do. Some just inherit. My grandmother had it.
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Yes, I know two 'thin' folks that have it. No one in my family did...but I'm told I have an A-1C that needs watching...whatever the hell that means? Last report , it had improved. And yes , due to arthritis i am overweight. But I have no "sweet-tooth" and I do eat healthy...not vegan, but healthy.
 
rgp said:
Yes, I know two 'thin' folks that have it. No one in my family did...but I'm told I have an A-1C that needs watching...whatever the hell that means? Last report , it had improved. And yes , due to arthritis i am overweight. But I have no "sweet-tooth" and I do eat healthy...not vegan, but healthy.
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Nobody is overweight due to arthritis.

Less movement = less food intake and that's that.
Actually if some of the weight was lost, the arthritis would not be as painful, less pressure on the joints, especially the knees.

Vegan does not necessarily = "healthy", I don't know how that rumor got started.

If you're told to watch your A1C, you must. Medicare pays for test kits, it's not hard to do a tiny blood test from your finger tip.

Glad your last test showed improvement.
 
The A1C test is an indicator of how your glucose numbers have averaged over the past 3 months. An A1C level below 5.7 percent is considered normal. An A1C between 5.7 and 6.4 percent signals prediabetes. Type 2 diabetes is diagnosed when the A1C is over 6.5 percent. Type 2 used to be called "adult onset" diabetes but now people are being diagnosed at younger ages.

I can't recall exactly when, but about 10 years ago the medical community "adjusted" the A1C numbers for a diagnosis of diabetes which caused a lot of people to suddenly be diagnosed as diabetic. (Kind of like when they changed the numbers for diagnosing high blood pressure.) I believe that Big Pharma plays a HUGE role in these determinations; got to keep the big bucks on prescription meds rolling in.

Many times prediabetes or early Type 2 can be controlled with diet and exercise.
 
C'est Moi said:
The A1C test is an indicator of how your glucose numbers have averaged over the past 3 months. An A1C level below 5.7 percent is considered normal. An A1C between 5.7 and 6.4 percent signals prediabetes. Type 2 diabetes is diagnosed when the A1C is over 6.5 percent. Type 2 used to be called "adult onset" diabetes but now people are being diagnosed at younger ages.

I can't recall exactly when, but about 10 years ago the medical community "adjusted" the A1C numbers for a diagnosis of diabetes which caused a lot of people to suddenly be diagnosed as diabetic. (Kind of like when they changed the numbers for diagnosing high blood pressure.) I believe that Big Pharma plays a HUGE role in these determinations; got to keep the big bucks on prescription meds rolling in.

Many times prediabetes or early Type 2 can be controlled with diet and exercise.
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I agree that Many times prediabetes or early Type 2 can be controlled with diet and exercise!

That was interesting what you said about "changing the numbers" C'est Moi! But we do have to address the rising obesity.
 
RadishRose said:
I agree that Many times prediabetes or early Type 2 can be controlled with diet and exercise!

That was interesting what you said about "changing the numbers" C'est Moi! But we do have to address the rising obesity.
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I agree, RR. I watched a documentary recently called "Fed Up" and it was a real eye-opener. I had no idea that the "big food' lobbyists had so much control over the food supply in the USA and what goes into our food. Lots of good information about the childhood obesity epidemic as well.
 
"Nobody is overweight due to arthritis.

Less movement = less food intake and that's that. "
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Wrong !...

Arthritis just about halts movement....= weight gain..and since you know nothing about my [or anyone's] metabolism, or what I eat, or how much...I won't even address the second comment.


 
"Vegan does not necessarily = "healthy", I don't know how that rumor got started."
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I didn't say it did....only commenting that it sure as hell doesn't look like it has been for him.

If the news stories are correct ? His daughter got him started on it after his heart attack,... as she is one.
 
rgp said:
I get the impression that most of us here are of a similar age ? or at the least of the same generation ?

Is it just myself or...Has anyone else noticed the almost sudden ? Constant advertising for diabetes medicines ? It seems to me that , go back just five years, and the ads were much less numerous..10 years for sure.

My question(s) are A: is it suddenly an increasing / widespread disease ? B: a disease that has increased in severity ? Or are we being lied to in some manner ? Has it become a gold mine for big-pharma. Are the numbers not as serious as we are led to believe? But the fear of those numbers make us eager to buy these medicines?

It just seems to me that the ads are everywhere and constant.

On radio this morning I noticed a number of ads, I received two magazines subscriptions , two ads in each magazine. Turned on the TV , seems like an ad at every commercial break...??
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Rgp, I don't think that type 2 diabetes has been sudden at all, I'm in my mid 60s and both my parents developed diabetes in their later years. The advertisement for prescription meds is 'up in you face' since they started to allow prescription drug advertisements on TV. The ads are constant and the new meds with new names pop up often. We are being deceived to a degree by exaggerated or deceptive advertising, which does indeed benefit the big pharmaceutical companies.

Prepared foods we buy in stores have a lot of carbohydrates and sugars in them, sometimes defined by sneaky names on the ingredient labels. I believe high fructose corn syrup, dextrose, fructose, etc. are some of the offenders. Also, just fast foods, cheap treats like Oreos, and common foods eaten by folks these days like pizza, cheeseburgers, etc. lead to weight gain and have little nutritional value.

They've changed the simple glucose fasting test for diabetes to the A1C test, and I believe they have changed the numbers on the blood pressure tests too. Both of these things, in my opinion, show more people with hypertension and diabetes at earlier stages, which sells more prescriptions and 'treatments', where years ago they would have just been warned by their doctors.

I personally think the TV drug ads should be banned, but doubt that would happen due to money interests. Many large corporations are 'in bed' with each other, and they will use any avenue to make money. The health of the public or transparency of their agendas seem to take second place. :dollar:
 
rgp said:
"Nobody is overweight due to arthritis.

Less movement = less food intake and that's that. "

Wrong !...

Arthritis just about halts movement....= weight gain..and since you know nothing about my [or anyone's] metabolism, or what I eat, or how much...I won't even address the second comment.


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That's fine. I also have arthritis and it does hurt! The theory is to expend as much as is taken in to keep level. If metabolism is slow, the intake would be reduced. I'm happy to agree to disagree.
 
SeaBreeze said:
Prepared foods we buy in stores have a lot of carbohydrates and sugars in them, sometimes defined by sneaky names on the ingredient labels. I believe high fructose corn syrup, dextrose, fructose, etc. are some of the offenders. Also, just fast foods, cheap treats like Oreos, and common foods eaten by folks these days like pizza, cheeseburgers, etc. lead to weight gain and have little nutritional value.
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Yes! I read an ingredient on a product a few months ago (forgot what it was ) but the ingredient was "cane juice"! LOL They'll say anything but sugar.
 
RadishRose said:
That's fine. I also have arthritis and it does hurt! The theory is to expend as much as is taken in to keep level. If metabolism is slow, the intake would be reduced. I'm happy to agree to disagree.
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After I quit smoking 17 yrs ago I started gaining, 10,20,30 lbs...continued my workout routine [pre-arthritis], tightened my diet no help. So I used my doc's scale for reference only. I bought a kitchen [food] scale. For six months , I weighed my food, [portion control] took up label reading, for fat content, calories, etc, I took my daily average calorie intake down to 1500-1750 , I was hungry all the time, but stuck with it , for six months exact. Weighed myself at the doc's I GAINED one pound !

The general 'rule of thumb' just does not apply to all.

I have noted in the past...

Jack LaLanne lived the fitness life...lived to be 96.

George Burns lived the nightlife ...lived to be 100.
 
I take Chromium Picolinate and Bitter Melon daily as a preventative for diabetes, here's an article about why diabetics should know about Turmeric (Curcumin), which I also take every day. Full story here.

Many diabetics already know about the benefits of a low-glycemic diet and the need for regular exercise, but why haven't they heard about turmeric, one of the world's most extensively researched anti-diabetic plants?


A recent literature review published in the International Journal of Endocrinology and Metabolism titled, "Anti-Hyperglycemic Effect and Insulin Sensitizing Effects of Turmeric and Its Principle Constituent Curcumin," adds promising new support to the notion that the ancient Indian spice turmeric may provide an ideal drug alternative to treating and perhaps even preventing type 2 diabetes, which has become of the world's most prevalent diagnoses.

The study reviewed research published between 1998 to 2013 that indicates the active polyphenol in turmeric known as curcumin may provide an ideal intervention for type 2 diabetes, capable of mitigating characteristic pathophysiological hallmarks of the disease such as elevated blood sugar (hyperglycemia) and insulin resistance.

Nineteen of the studies reviewed were cell (in vitro) and animal (in vivo), all which showed beneficial effects. Five of the studies were human clinical trials using turmeric or curcumin, three of which were performed in those with either diabetes or prediabetes.

Amazingly, the animal and cell research literature review concluded that curcumin could improve the type 2 diabetic state through 10 distinctly different mechanisms, such as:


  • Reduction in liver glucose production
  • Reduction in liver glycogen production
  • Stimulation of increased glucose uptake (by increasing GLUT4, GLUT2 and GLUT3 gene expressions)
  • Increasing the activation of AMP kinase
  • Promoting PPAR γ ligand- binding activity
  • Suppressing hyperglycemia-induced inflammatory state
  • Stimulating insulin secretion from pancreatic tissues
  • Improvement in pancreatic cell function,
  • Increasing phosphorylation of AKT
  • Increasing insulin receptor β and reduction of insulin resistance
The human clinical research conducted on diabetic and pre-diabetic patients revealed that curcumin had the following beneficial effects:


  • Glucose lowering effect
  • Improved beta cell function
  • Improved fatty acid oxidation and utilization
One of these studies is especially worth highlighting, as it found a turmeric extract was highly effective in preventing the development of diabetes within pre-diabetic subjects. The study published in 2012, in the American Diabetic Association's own journal, Diabetes Care, and titled, "Curcumin extract for the prevention of type 2 diabetes," found that the administration of six capsules containing 250 mg of curcumin daily for 9 months was 100% effective at preventing the development of type 2 diabetes in prediabetics; more specifically: "16.4% of the subjects in the placebo group were diagnosed with T2DM, whereas none were diagnosed with T2DM."
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I don't have diabetes and don't want it so watch my numbers and foods like a hawk. I developed nerve tingling in my feet which I believe is from arthritis and/or opioids and abx drugs from a staph infection I went thru in my knee. Long story and won't bore you all.

Anyway, back on and will stay on turmeric (sports research brand) and notice for the last two weeks or more my feet are not burning when I go to bed. It's great to notice when something is working. It's so easy to change our health with foods and for me, supplements....
 
Some advice on reversing type 2 diabetes naturally with diet, exericse and supplementation. More here.

According to the 2017 National Diabetes Statistics Report, over 30 million people living in the United States have diabetes. That’s almost 10 percent of the U.S. population. And diabetes is the seventh leading cause of death in the United States, causing, at least in part, over 250,000 deaths in 2015.

That’s why it’s so important to take steps to reverse diabetes and the diabetes epidemic in America.

Type 2 diabetes is a dangerous disease that can lead to many other health conditions when it’s not managed properly, including kidney disease, blindness, leg and food amputations, nerve damage, and even death.


Type 2 diabetes is a completely preventable and reversible condition, and with diet and lifestyle changes, you can greatly reduce your chances of getting the disease or reverse the condition if you’ve already been diagnosed.

If you are one of the millions of Americans struggling with diabetes symptoms, begin the steps to reverse diabetes naturally today. With my diabetic diet plan, suggested supplements and increased physical activity, you can quickly regain your health and reverse diabetes the natural way.
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rgp said:
I get the impression that most of us here are of a similar age ? or at the least of the same generation ?

Is it just myself or...Has anyone else noticed the almost sudden ? Constant advertising for diabetes medicines ? It seems to me that , go back just five years, and the ads were much less numerous..10 years for sure.

My question(s) are A: is it suddenly an increasing / widespread disease ? B: a disease that has increased in severity ? Or are we being lied to in some manner ? Has it become a gold mine for big-pharma. Are the numbers not as serious as we are led to believe? But the fear of those numbers make us eager to buy these medicines?

It just seems to me that the ads are everywhere and constant.

On radio this morning I noticed a number of ads, I received two magazines subscriptions , two ads in each magazine. Turned on the TV , seems like an ad at every commercial break...??
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My observation is that as we age we tend to develop adverse effects and diabetes is one of them. I also think a lot of the population is overweight as we get older and that also contributes.

Take a look at shingles and shingles vaccine. Almost unheard of 10 years ago. The chicken pox virus stays with us for a lifetime.
 
I've managed my diabetes successfully over 20 yrs without giving in to fads or quackery. I also have arthritis with joint replacements. The only time my A1c got bad was when I had to spend some recovery time in an assisted living facility with poor food. The thing I resent most is the "Diabetes Industry" trying to convince people that have it that they need every kind of specialized product. Trying to make me buy diabetic shoes with a copay of $100 toward $ 500 when there is nothing wrong with my feet. I swear they'd try to sell diabetic toilet paper if they thought they could get away with it. Beware!
 
I don't think it is a coincidence that the rise in Type II diabetes began about the time Bispenol A (BPA) was introduced into our lives (1957). Although it is possible to now find specific BPA-free plastic items, it has become such an integral part of so many of the common products in use everyday that it is impossible to totally avoid it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisphenol_A

https://www.peoplespharmacy.com/2012/03/12/are-you-swallowing-phthalates-with-your-pills/

Seven Warning Signs You May Have BPA Toxicity

  • You Are Overweight. Historically, the concept of obesity was one of “calories in, calories out.” ...
  • Early Puberty. BPA disrupts our hormones. ...
  • Erectile Dysfunction. ...
  • Your Blood Pressure is Too High. ...
  • You Have ADHD. ...
  • You Have Heart Disease. ...
  • You Have Breast or Prostate Cancer

A simple urine test will reveal the amount of BPA in your system.
 
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That's why I count on Grape Seed Extract as I do. It does so much and cleans our blood from all the free radicals in everything out there. Grape seed ex is known to reduce diabetes too. Do a search for yourself anyone.
 
The American diet is largely responsible for the surge in diabetes. I was at a Walmart yesterday waiting about 30 minutes for my prescription. I could not help but notice the number of obese people coming and going. I have read the military has stated they could not man the military in an emergency because of the staggering number of overweight young people. Also, I was at a Kroger store recently and took notice that about 80% of on frozen food aisle was nothing but pizzas. Then there is the chips & popcorn aisles. Sad.
 

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