Did Turkey Kill 1300 in Syria's Sarin Gas Attack?

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Last week, two MP's from Turkey's opposition Republican Peoples Party held a press conference and said there was evidence that Turkey was responsible for the sarin gas attack in Syria in 2013. You may recall the 'red line in the sand' situation where President Obama was on the verge of ordering commencement of an attack in Syria because that government had committed such an atrocity that killed 1300 Syrian people. And Russia President, Vladimir Putin defused the situation and got Assad to turn over all Syria's chemical weapons.

These MP's said this information came to light in the course of a criminal investigation that was looking at the involvement of several Turkish business men who were alleged to have provided the chemicals and the transportation through the porous border between the two countries and into the hands of the terrorists fighting against the current government of Syria. However, in short order, the charges were dropped and the people arrested were freed. The purpose of this 'false flag' operation was to provide a reason for the USA and Europe to become involved and force the removal of Bashar al Assad.

While Minister Erdem is on record during that press conference, saying that he will launch a criminal complaint against all involved, it is interesting that no mention has been made of this on any western media (that I can find). I did a search on CNN, MSNBC and CBC and no mention despite this information being relevant to the future of the world.

Is it time to kick Turkey out of NATO yet and for the West to take that government to task for shooting down the Russian jet on a pretext?

I actually have struggled with whether or not to even mention this here. I know that some of you folks have been unhappy with me airing my perspective on some things and I had intended to stay away from these topics, but maybe against my better judgement, I figured that we all deserve to know how our and world safety is being threatened and who is threatening it.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/turkis...y-on-false-flag-sarin-attack-in-syria/5483982

https://www.rt.com/news/325825-sarin-gas-syria-turkey/
 

Except Davey, these are all incidents that are potentially pushing the world towards WW3? Does that make it personal enough?

Do you think that when Turkey shot down Russia's jet, there wasn't some small intention to get a reaction out of Russia? Do you think that if Russia had reacted, that Turkey wouldn't have come screaming to you guys that Turkey is a NATO member and that it's your responsibility to protect them from Russia's retaliation? Thank goodness President Putin is wiser than this NATO idiot who is working with ISIS and facilitating beheadings, murders, havoc and mayhem in general. This is part of your problem just as it's part of the world's problem and we should all be paying attention.
 

So did Turks facilitate the attack and/or actually participate in some fashion. It could've happened. I'm sure many are glad for intervention. The whole region is filled with possible false flags if not a lot of people doing very manipulative things with ulterior motives. But the whole region is also filled with many different political, religious and economic factions. Being a "country" in that region doesn't hold the same meaning as it does in most of Europe or North America.
 
The MP who revealed it is saying the following: 'The investigation revealed that a number of Turkish citizens took part in negotiations with Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) representatives on the supply of sarin gas. Pointing to evidence cited in the criminal case, he said that wiretapped phone conversations proved that an Al-Qaeda militant, Hayyam Kasap, acquired sarin.' And one week later, despite this kind of evidence, the case was shut down.

Considering how PO'd Turkey got for the sake of Russia's 17 second 'trespass' if it even happened, I'd say that being a country there means exactly what it does here depending on the mood of the governments involved. Keep in mind that Iraq is demanding that Turkey leave their country and Turkey is refusing (so far) and also, the minute that Turkey shot down the Russian jet, they quit trespassing in Greece's airspace because they knew that their protestations about trespassing wasn't worth a hill of beans as long as they were flying over Greece. So borders are still borders even over there.

So it does seem that Turkey 'facilitated' to the extent that the authorities made sure that the criminals who sold and transported the sarin gas to the terrorists who used it to kill 1300 civilians, didn't suffer any repercussions for their act. If you and I sold/gave a gun to someone whom we knew was going to use it to kill someone, I would guess that we'd be charged for our part in that murder. I find it truly interesting that it's not being mentioned here at all.
 
WhatInThe said:
I understand the Turks might have had 'a' part but who actually unleashed the gas on those civilians?
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Considering that Assad was very willing to transfer out all the chemical weapons Syria had when asked, and as the investigation into the Turkish business men had wire taps that showed there were communications with al Qaeda or (FSA (Free Syrian Army)) terrorists about where to deliver it etc., my guess is that the terrorists who are fighting against the Syrian government are far more likely. I'm pretty sure that somewhere I've read too that the canisters that carried the nerve agent didn't appear to be military grade which if it was a terrorist group, would make sense.

I did a search and came up with the following statement by a UN diplomat involved with the investigation of who did it and as well the last link is a video that appears to be terrorists loading gas canisters onto a gun/cannon (?).

Testimony from victims strongly suggests it was the rebels, not the Syrian government, that used Sarin nerve gas during a recent incident in the revolution-wracked nation, a senior U.N. diplomat said Monday.Carla del Ponte, a member of the U.N. Independent International Commission of Inquiry on Syria, told Swiss TV there were “strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof,” that rebels seeking to oust Syrian strongman Bashar al-Assad had used the nerve agent.
But she said her panel had not yet seen any evidence of Syrian government forces using chemical weapons, according to the BBC, but she added that more investigation was needed. {emphasis ours} http://shoebat.com/2013/08/27/evidence-syrian-rebels-used-chemical-weapons-not-assad/

(the above text comes from a Washington Times article)

[video]http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/08/actual-video-footage-of-syrian-rebels-launching-chemical-weapons.html[/video]
 
Just read that the Turkish MP, Mr Erdem is now the subject of a treason investigation as a result of his disclosures about the closed sarin gas investigation. 'Killing the messenger' (but ignore the question of who is working with ISIS to kill innocent civilians).

'...Erdem revealed that five Turkish citizens had been arrested by the Adana Chief Prosecutor's Office as a result of an investigation coded 2013/139. A Syrian national was prosecuted in Turkey for procuring chemical agents for Islamist groups in Syria. At the same time, Erdem noted all the persons arrested within the framework of the 2013/139 investigation were released a week later....'


https://www.rt.com/news/326084-erdem-rt-interview-treason/


Is this really what NATO is all about? Looking the other way?
 
Some videos no longer available.

Canisters as in grenades? or containers for mortar or artillery shells? the video seems to show an adjustment on mortar fire then someone asks for the Sarin gas.

Most militaries have some kind of hazmat marker on the packaging let alone the ammunition.
 
The Washington's Blog video is still available and you can see a blue canister on the end of the rocket that the terrorists are loading. I couldn't see any markings on it, but to be fair I did come across mention that the attack that killed 1300 civilians happened at night and this video is obviously during the day, so I think I'll withdraw it as proof of anything other than perhaps some attempt at propaganda. Mind you, I still recall somewhere in all my reading that there was a mention that the bits and pieces of debris after the attack didn't appear to be military grade in any case, but try as I might I just can't seem to locate it.

But that doesn't negate the fact that the Turkish MP is now being investigated for treason because he is on public record accusing his own government of involvement in the sale of sarin gas to terrorists who were inside Syria. I guess whistleblowers don't have any protection in Turkey.
 
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