Yes you do, did you really not want me to tell you?Same here...I used to think purgatory made sense when it was explained as also a place for unbaptized babies, but I have long ago given up many beliefs I used to accept as a child in Catholic school
How did they make money off purgatory?? PLEASE don't tell me you could buy someone's soul out of purgatory
Do You Believe in an Eternal Hell
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Lara
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I hear you and get that. But, like you, Christians DO believe we will come back to Earth and live in new bodies here on Earth BUT without pain, no suffering, no evil...in perfect peace. But we can't have that peace on earth if God is going to give second chances to all the unbelievers with baggage who want to bring all that garbage and evil doings with them that they are still trying to work off and atone for on their own. No can do
Christians are willing right now to lay all that baggage down by accepting forgiveness for all of it this very minute offered to all for free through Jesus just by saying yes I accept. I Can Only Imagine what it will be like to live here on earth where there will be no sin, no suffering, no sadness...only joy, peace, love, harmony. I'm not going to miss out on that. But I will miss out on an eternity of Hell.
So, Serenity...it's kind of like reincarnation as we'll have new bodies and a new life...but no work, no pain, no evil...only joy, only love.
Here's the song "I Can Only Imagine"
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My conclusion exactly. With all the different experiences I’ve had I have to believe there are multidimensional and / or parallel universes where time doesn’t exist like it does while humanly incarnated.
There’s so many parts I don’t understand about the Catholic religion but when my husband told me this part, I was completely shocked. It sort of goes along with the same belief that one could murder someone but if they confessed their sins, they are good to go. Just like that.Same here...I used to think purgatory made sense when it was explained as also a place for unbaptized babies, but I have long ago given up many beliefs I used to accept as a child in Catholic school
How did they make money off purgatory?? PLEASE don't tell me you could buy someone's soul out of purgatory
It was called the selling of indulgences, wherein a person could buy his/her way out of sins, etc. The selling of indulgences was one of the promptings that caused The Reformation (Martin Luther)Same here...I used to think purgatory made sense when it was explained as also a place for unbaptized babies, but I have long ago given up many beliefs I used to accept as a child in Catholic school
How did they make money off purgatory?? PLEASE don't tell me you could buy someone's soul out of purgatory
Verisure
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I don't believe that I will be reincarnated as a cat, I don't believe that a "creator" is as superstitious as man, I don't believe that I will receive 72 virgins in the afterlife, I don't believe that Santa Claus can fit through my chimney, I do not believe that the money of the filthy rich will "trickle down" into my pockets, I do not believe that a talent scout will discover me and make me famous, I do not believe that blondes have more fun, and I do not believe in an eternal hell.
My goodness @J.B Books a bit of an overreaction?
Just a tad. He must have a sore swollen lip now.
Verisure
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The OP question is "Do You Believe in an Eternal Hell". Your reaction is "If you don't know, just say so". "If you don't know" what? Don't know if we believe? You cannot be saying if we don't know whether or not there's an eternal hell, because no one knows. No one. Nobody.
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So if you know the answer to the question, perhaps you could enlighten us all. (?)(!)
Then we’d ALL know.
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Most of the time, I don’t believe in an eternal hell, but have certainly experienced hell on earth. I tend to believe in reincarnation, parallel universes, etc, why not? Sometimes, the child abuse with religious overtones that I experienced stirs up an irrational fear that a permanent hell exists. I do believe in the eternal power of love and kindness. 
Well, I could have have known that, maybe
, if I googled it. 
People want to be so exact these days. 
SetWave
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All apologies, JB, but I have no use for catholicism.
Some Christians believe the way you do, I am sure, but not ALL Christians. I can imagine what it would be to live on earth as well, with no sin. BORING
Well, it’s a relief then, that you are not Catholic, because that would be silly.
Well, hmm, God might know, JC might know, some of the other deities might know. But humans, nope, we don’t really know so I kind of agree, sort of
Well thank you kindly for your explanation.
My husband says that his dad had a friend who’s father passed away when he was very young so the son went fishing with my husbands grandfather to support the family. The son had already lit the candles which he PAID for to get his father from purgatory into heaven. The priest walked by and told this boy, who was working extra hard to support his family, said his father was almost out of purgatory. He just needed a few more candles and the boy said “Father, dad is like a rat, if his head will fit through a hole, his butt will squeeze in behind him.”
And that was the end of that so instead of trying to help this unfortunate family, they tried to push for more money.
My husband is younger than me so this wasn’t anywhere near the 1500’s. Just sayin.’
Packerjohn
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I live in hell! When it takes over 2 hours to get a live voice from the taxation people you know you live in hell! Can't see them in person because they have locked themselves in. While waiting on the phone for over 2 hours, they play for you 3 short classical pieces over and over and over and over and over. Too think that we used to laugh at communist countries. HA! I think I'm gona have several strong shots of rum after this "deal" is over. They want our money ASAP but they sure don't want to see us or help us do our taxes. My "home sweet home", HELL, Canada!
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Yeah, I remember asking a very relig. Christian--don't remember whether Catholic or Protestant--about what would happen if a "saved" Christian woman, totally through no fault of her own, was raped and murdered, would she go to Heaven? Christian: Yep. Me: Then what would happen if, after she died, her rapist & murderer converted to Christianity and was "saved." Would he go to Heaven too? Christian: Yep. Me: Well, wouldn't it spoil Heaven for her if she ran into the SOB up there? Christian: Well, no because God would take away her memory of him and what he did to her. Me: But if you take such a huge memory like that away from someone, they're not themselves anymore since our memories make us what and who we are; she wouldn't be her anymore. Christian: [blank stare]. .There’s so many parts I don’t understand about the Catholic religion but when my husband told me this part, I was completely shocked. It sort of goes along with the same belief that one could murder someone but if they confessed their sins, they are good to go. Just like that.
How would anyone know whether a saved Christian woman would pass the judgement of God and JC and enter heaven or hell, for that matter. No one knows and, IMO, it is the ultimate of arrogance to claim to know.
You have to be dead to be judged. The woman, right before she died could have wounded her rapist, and if he died later, then she would also be a murderer; and she would have no time to repent or even know her of her crime.
We can be believers or not, we can believe in heaven and/or hell, or not. What we believe does not matter, actually. We will be judged by a deity or the worms, those are the real choices.
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