Do you ever find things so disturbing/upsetting that you have trouble speaking?

PeppermintPatty said:
Oddly enough, I never found the road runner funny either. I think I didnt find it funny cause it really wasn’t real. In my life when someone was violent to me, and it happened often due to my dad, I didn’t bounce back. In a way, I resented those silly cartoons. In my life, bouncing back seconds later after being attacked, just didn’t happen. I like the Flintstones and the Jetsons. I know there was violence in both those shows but not consistent violence.
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Fair enough. Nobody was beating on me so I neither personalized those scenes nor resented the non-reality of the bounce back in the following scene.

Of course, lowbrow physical comedy wouldn't be funny to in the slightest to those who were trapped in violent homes. I'm sorry that was your experience - you must have felt so trapped and powerless.
 

StarSong said:
Fair enough. Nobody was beating on me so I neither personalized those scenes nor resented the non-reality of the bounce back in the following scene.

Of course, lowbrow physical comedy wouldn't be funny to in the slightest to those who were trapped in violent homes. I'm sorry that was your experience -
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When I was younger I didn’t really understand why I was or felt different than other kids. I just ‘knew’ I was. It wasn’t until I became an adult and realized most kids didn’t have my type of family life that I realized the ‘why’ of it all.


StarSong said:
you must have felt so trapped and powerless.
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While the violence was happening I felt VERY powerless. My dad was a big strong man. The fact that no other member in my family stepped in to stick up for me made me feel like I must have deserved it.

THAT in itself was the worst feeling. When my own sense of self didn’t feel worthy of anything better WAS like living in hell. Even as an adult I go through some stages of deep self loathing. Eventually I pull myself out.

Note: There have been many times throughout the 6 years here that I’ve lost myself. I back tract and delete my posts. Delete all my friends. It hasn’t happened in a while. The hardest part is forgiving myself.
I’m not sure if that makes sense or not. It’s a hard thing to try and explain.
 
VintageBetter said:
For many years I used to think I was such an oddball that this happens to me sometimes. But sometimes things happen ether in real life or in the news that are so horrible I cannot easily speak about them.

Then a few years ago I learned that there really is such a thing as Highly Sensitive Persons. (HSPs). What Is a Highly Sensitive Person (HSP)?. As I read more about this class of people I thought, "Holy ***t, that's me."

There is also a well-known Bible psalm (77) that speaks of this phenomenon:
3I remembered you, God, and I groaned;
I meditated, and my spirit grew faint. b
4You kept my eyes from closing;
I was too troubled to speak.

So, there you have it. A Bible-endorsed legitimate reaction to trauma.

What say you Seniors?
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I learned long ago that such people do exist. I stay away from such a person. Not walking on eggshells in order to gain a friend.
 
PeppermintPatty said:
Oh you do have a right to exist as do I and all the other women you chose to put down today.
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I am not putting down any women. Just saying their thoughts are sometimes clouded by the feminist's attempt to convert them from child bearers and homemakers to other family-destructive roles.
 
jpstrap said:
I am not putting down any women. Just saying their thoughts are sometimes clouded by the feminist's attempt to convert them from child bearers and homemakers to other family-destructive roles.
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Again. Convert them from child bearers and homemakers to other family destructive roles?
You over look ALL your short comings and blame everything on women and the feminist movement. We don’t ALL want to be baby makers and homemakers.
 
jpstrap said:
I am not putting down any women. Just saying their thoughts are sometimes clouded by the feminist's attempt to convert them from child bearers and homemakers to other family-destructive roles.
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PeppermintPatty said:
Again. Convert them from child bearers and homemakers to other family destructive roles?
You over look ALL your short comings and blame everything on women and the feminist movement. We don’t ALL want to be baby makers and homemakers.
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Agreed. Some of you choose to make yourselves a place in an area in which you are not naturally suited.
 
Pepper said:
Maybe he wants a woman financially dependent on him so she can't leave. In the 1950's, the women weren't able to leave for that reason. @PeppermintPatty
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It’s all about power and control for you.
jpstrap said:
Agreed. Some of you choose to make yourselves a place in an area in which you are not naturally suited.
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Gee. How would any of us know what to do without having men like you in our lives!! IMG_4139.gif
PLEASE note the sarcasm.
 
jpstrap said:
I am not putting down any women. Just saying their thoughts are sometimes clouded by the feminist's attempt to convert them from child bearers and homemakers to other family-destructive roles.
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I apologize, but I cannot believe this extremely misogynistic statement. The claim that women's thoughts are "clouded" by feminism, and that feminism itself promotes "family-destructive roles" for women is deeply sexist and regressive. It promotes offensive gender stereotypes about women's primary role being childbearers and homemakers.

Feminism simply aims to establish equal rights and opportunities for women in all spheres of life - be it professional, political, or personal. It does not demean mothers or homemakers, but expands the range of choices available to women beyond traditionally prescribed gender roles. Numerous studies have shown that when women have autonomy, it benefits families and societies at large.
 
Paco Dennis said:
I apologize, but I cannot believe this extremely misogynistic statement. The claim that women's thoughts are "clouded" by feminism, and that feminism itself promotes "family-destructive roles" for women is deeply sexist and regressive. It promotes offensive gender stereotypes about women's primary role being childbearers and homemakers.

Feminism simply aims to establish equal rights and opportunities for women in all spheres of life - be it professional, political, or personal. It does not demean mothers or homemakers, but expands the range of choices available to women beyond traditionally prescribed gender roles. Numerous studies have shown that when women have autonomy, it benefits families and societies at large.
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Yes feminism has done such things. It also has been infiltrated by man-haters, and social agendas which aim to dissolve the family unit. That is a fact. That is the feminism I am taking issue with. I feel your characterization of my comments are unfair. Why do you insist on this kind of approach to my posts, paco?
 
Paco Dennis said:
I apologize, but I cannot believe this extremely misogynistic statement. The claim that women's thoughts are "clouded" by feminism, and that feminism itself promotes "family-destructive roles" for women is deeply sexist and regressive. It promotes offensive gender stereotypes about women's primary role being childbearers and homemakers.

Feminism simply aims to establish equal rights and opportunities for women in all spheres of life - be it professional, political, or personal. It does not demean mothers or homemakers, but expands the range of choices available to women beyond traditionally prescribed gender roles. Numerous studies have shown that when women have autonomy, it benefits families and societies at large.
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Thank you Dennis.
You’re da man! 🙏❤️
 
jpstrap said:
Yes feminism has done such things. It also has been infiltrated by man-haters, and social agendas which aim to dissolve the family unit. That is a fact. That is the feminism I am taking issue with. I feel your characterization of my comments are unfair. Why do you insist on this kind of approach to my posts, paco?
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Because you make statements that have no facts. If what you say above is true, show me the studies. Otherwise
The claim that feminism has been "infiltrated by man-haters" with an agenda to "dissolve the family unit" is categorically false and promotes an inaccurate, harmful narrative about the feminist movement.

There is no credible evidence that any major mainstream feminist movement or organization has ever had an agenda to purposefully "dissolve the family unit." This claim seems to originate from anti-feminist propaganda aimed at misrepresenting and discrediting feminism's goals. You promote false narratives, for your special agendas. These are not even real accusations you are making. They are being fabricated by only you. Do you understand that?
 
Paco Dennis said:
Because you make statements that have no facts. If what you say above is true, show me the studies. Otherwise
The claim that feminism has been "infiltrated by man-haters" with an agenda to "dissolve the family unit" is categorically false and promotes an inaccurate, harmful narrative about the feminist movement.

There is no credible evidence that any major mainstream feminist movement or organization has ever had an agenda to purposefully "dissolve the family unit." This claim seems to originate from anti-feminist propaganda aimed at misrepresenting and discrediting feminism's goals. You promote false narratives, for your special agendas. These are not even real accusations you are making. They are being fabricated by only you. Do you understand that?
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I do hear you. I do understand your words. But I have no agenda. I am not a member of any activist group, I do not promote or support an anti-feminism viewpoint. I have told you my beef with the feminist movement. Many others share my viewpoint. Why are you so antagonistic? I cannot believe the way you allow your viciousness to permeate your comments to me. Perhaps YOU have an agenda here?
 
jpstrap said:
I do hear you. I do understand your words. But I have no agenda. I am not a member of any activist group, I do not promote or support an anti-feminism viewpoint. I have told you my beef with the feminist movement. Many others share my viewpoint. Why are you so antagonistic? I cannot believe the way you allow your viciousness to permeate your comments to me. Perhaps YOU have an agenda here?
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That reply is a show stopper for me. No more...ignore. :(
 
jpstrap said:
I do hear you. I do understand your words. But I have no agenda. I am not a member of any activist group, I do not promote or support an anti-feminism viewpoint. I have told you my beef with the feminist movement. Many others share my viewpoint. Why are you so antagonistic? I cannot believe the way you allow your viciousness to permeate your comments to me. Perhaps YOU have an agenda here?
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Dennis is, by FAR, one of the nicest, kindest, most interesting men on this forum. There’s absolutely nothing vicious about him.
 

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