Do you support bringing in ME refugees?

I may be wrong... but isn't that what they are doing? But I guess when you are fleeing for your life "pretty please" doesn't really cut it.
 

Reminds me of a scene from "A Christmas Carol"

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Somewhat difficult to fish in an empty dried up pond, unless you believe in miracles. As for bootstraps, hmm. First you need boots. Sophistry aside, this is all about fear and greed. Primarily greed. "These people" just might lower my standard of living by some minuscule amount, or wipe their foreign Muslim feet all over my prejudices. This is xenophobia at it's finest, aren't we proud? What a marvelous example to set for our children.
 
You bet QS. Next time a woman/child is raped/beaten/tortured due to the conflict, they better be certain they have all the necessary forms filled out in triplicate. Plus a comprehensive plan on rescuing their country from the dogs of war. Pleeeez,
smoke and mirrors, to hide a dark agenda. There is no viable excuse for systematic inhumanity.
 
MaryZPA said:
Perhaps the refugees can attend etiqutte classes in the detention camps.
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Etiquette should be part of assimilation which is part of a formal immigration policy in which one has to wait their turn and complete an actual meaningful immigration process.
 
WhatInThe said:
Etiquette should be part of assimilation which is part of a formal immigration policy in which one has to wait their turn and complete an actual meaningful immigration process.
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Sooo... tell me.... when you have lost your home and all your possessions, You have nothing but the shirt on your back. your wife and daughter have been raped or murdered. You scoop up your younger kids and run for your life from ISIS... exactly WHAT line do you get into to "wait your turn"? where do you live... what do you eat... while you are waiting and filling out your papers???
 
QuickSilver said:
Sooo... tell me.... when you have lost your home and all your possessions, You have nothing but the shirt on your back. your wife and daughter have been raped or murdered. You scoop up your younger kids and run for your life from ISIS... exactly WHAT line do you get into to "wait your turn"? where do you live... what do you eat... while you are waiting and filling out your papers???
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Revolutions have been motivated by less. And I doubt every single refugee border hoping has experienced all those event. They're coming from a war zone, you fight, stay or flee. They seem to have enough energy and where with all to sneak and/or cross entire countries and borders after conspiring with a criminal smuggler. Those efforts should been put into conspiring revolution, retribution, justice, organization, recruitment, weapons procurement etc.
 
QuickSilver said:
I'd do all those things too if I were trying to protect my kids and get out of harms way... wouldn't you?
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I'd try to keep them out of the way, not countries or continents away until they could chose to fight or flee. And I would be training them to fight along with staying hidden. Entire governments have been overthrown by the local population including families.
 
QuickSilver said:
So these families should just stay and fight ISIS? And if they or their kids are killed? oh well.... that's the breaks?
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I would be a sad fate but not one of running or fleeing. The washed body of the boy on the beach says there is no sure thing or right answer for all families. Nor does one want to be seeing those same kinds of pictures years from now.
 
I had seen this film before and do fully agree with allowing all so called victims stay near their home lands and working with those governments to fix the problems there.
 
BobF said:
I had seen this film before and do fully agree with allowing all so called victims stay near their home lands and working with those governments to fix the problems there.
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I had never seen that particular film before and I urge YOU to watch it.
I didn't know that the US takes in around one MILLION migrant people a year?
With congress possibly voting to allow in more.

I agree with the presenter there, as he gets it spot on for me!
 
We(all of "we" in North America) should do everything we can to aid the refugees. I am not sure that hearding them into our slums is going to be doing them a huge favor, but I guess it's better than being

slaughtered by the ISIS monsters.

I am not a "hawkish" person...perhaps since "we" contributed the rise of ISIS(thank you GWB) by removing Saddam Hussein from power maybe we should

do more militarily to quash ISIS. I hate the idea of being pulled further into mddle east politics, but there is definitely unfinished business to be taken care of there. For better or for worse, the NATO members

all have middle eastern blood on their hands, and will have to deal with it, now or at some time in the future.
 
I would like us all to remember that there is a difference between economic refugees and those who are being displaced through military actions.

The film was, I think, talking only of economic refugees.
 
Lara said:
Only single mother's and their small children should be accepted first. Wait, do they even have single mothers in Syria? Is divorce allowed? Always mothers and children first on a sinking ship.
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Maybe you haven't read this yet but 70% of those refuges are grown males, makes you go hmmmmmmm.
 
I have to vote no this time, as I believe we have taken in and given away too many free benefits already. only to have the recipients turn around and demand more and more.

I would hope that this country would do it's best to take care of the ones we already have and to quit running around the world looking for the next PR/ feel good movement to throw more money and rescources at.

There are plenty of people in the USA that are homeless,hungry and struggling to take care of FIRST before we go looking for more, not much PR in that I guess!

I am sorry but I for one am sick and tired of the feel good police looking around the world for more problems to fix when it is right in front of them!!
 
tigrunner said:
I have to vote no this time, as I believe we have taken in and given away too many free benefits already. only to have the recipients turn around and demand more and more.

I would hope that this country would do it's best to take care of the ones we already have and to quit running around the world looking for the next PR/ feel good movement to throw more money and rescources at.

There are plenty of people in the USA that are homeless,hungry and struggling to take care of FIRST before we go looking for more, not much PR in that I guess!

I am sorry but I for one am sick and tired of the feel good police looking around the world for more problems to fix when it is right in front of them!!
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From the UK.
I would just like to say that I agree with every single word that you say there Tigrunner.
 
Just a thought on American overseas aids.

If the States were to donate ONE BILLION dollars a WEEK to all of the people earning less than two dollars a week,
... and if ALL of that money went to the poor people, and NOT the greedy and grasping administrators,

Then each poor person would receive just under SIX DOLLARS A YEAR.....

All overseas donations must be in the form of development projects, ie, to provide drinkable water, power, agricultural and so on.
... It must be down to the governments of those countries to maximise on these funds, but sadly, many are spending them on arms deals - with the USA, UK, France, China and Russia.

Why isn't there an agreement that weapons are not sold to underdeveloped countries?

I know that weapons are sold via the 'backdoor' method. The supplying country will sell them to a 'friendly' country who then forward them to a poor country.
... The selling country know damned well where their weapons are going to end up, but they turn a blind eye to it. It's all down to money.
Surely the United Nations could stop this from happening?
 

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