Do you think that a time will come when humans will be able to live together in harmony?

Most certainly possible but under current world systems highly unlikely. There have already been some nations that have existed relatively benignly. Note I once took anthropology classes.

Due to the limitations of transportation and communication, we humans evolved at many different effectively isolated localized places across the planet with different cultures, morals, ethics, languages, religions, beliefs, histories, levels of science, and traditions. In recent millennia with the rise of science and tools, we became increasingly less isolated. As evolved Earth creatures we share some of the same basic drives as lower animals, many of which fight their own kind for food, territory, mates, and within groups, others within their groups to be leaders. In the modern era the whole human world is suddenly no longer isolated but we are still many independent nations with differences. There is a history of larger stronger powers attacking weaker others at levels far worse than any lower creatures that has led to fear and armed entrenchment.

If as I suspect, the Earth is actually a rare within the universe DNA organic biological zoo for an ancient race of advanced ultimate intelligent entities, it may be that at some point after we have proven to be incapable caretakers of this amazing blue water planet of life, they may return. It is logical they prefer to remain invisible not wanting to interfere unless they have to in order to save the rest of the planet's life. And won't do so unless we do something like WWIII after which none of us could argue we were not given a chance.

If so they may totally eliminate all humans or filter out the majority with behaviors likely to cause conflict. To do so such entities would not even have to make an obvious appearance. They could first infect the human world with a highly contagious lethal head cold virus for which we have no immunity. Then could systematically easily destroy all war weaponry. Any remaining humans would forever forward understand that there would never again be options to pursue the kind of greedy power of our current controlling world nor endless population and infrastructure growth at levels that damage the rest of the planet's life nor with disgusting moral behaviors. Thus we would need to learn to live peacefully, morally, enjoyably, in harmony in this paradise.
 

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Nathan said:
Which? In college anthropology I studied The Forrest People. They were very peaceful.
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Jared Diamond in his book "The World Until Yesterday: What Can We Learn From Traditional Societies?" (http://www.jareddiamond.org/Jared_Diamond/The_World_Until_Yesterday.html) lays out the evidence that on average ancient peoples were quite violent, more so than today even considering modern wars and atrocities.

This is a controversial conclusion, however he presents quite convincing evidence, and criticism appears based on anecdotal evidence of specific individual tribes, like your Forrest People. Exceptions, not the rule and not on statistical averages. He does a good job of refuting these criticisms here:
http://www.jareddiamond.org/Jared_Diamond/Rousseau_Revisited.html
 
Actually we are living together in relative harmony.

"The absolute number of war deaths is declining since 1945.

The absolute number of war deaths has been declining since 1946. In some years in the early post-war era, around half a million people died through direct violence in wars; in contrast, in 2016 the number of all battle-related deaths in conflicts involving at least one state was 87,432."

There is a good graph and more information at this link.

https://ourworldindata.org/war-and-peace
 
We humans are more peaceful than ever in our history. Less poor too.
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We still have a long way to go, as witnessed in Syria, Myanmar and elsewhere. But there is reason for optimism.
 
Churchill is misquoted as saying "Better jaw, jaw, jaw than war, war, war." What he actually said is that meeting jaw to jaw is better than war. In either case, in a global economy, diplomacy backed by sanctions can be pretty effective.
 
From accounts I've heard and read about people who've left Amish and similar communities, they're not all sunshine and lollipops.

Very controlling people at the helm of most communities.

One morning an Ohio friend of mine went to his Mennonite neighbor's house to return a borrowed tool. He heard the guy's wife call out, "Will you be having use of me this morning or shall I get dressed?"

EEEK!
 
We lived a more harmonious existence in the 60's and 70's so if our brain cells are intact, yes we can remember how to do that. Just stop forcing your opinion on others is a good start.
 
palides2021 said:
Yes. It depends on the cultures. The Amish people have lived in harmony for a long time, and so have other religious groups. There was a study done once on gorillas out in the wilderness. The group of gorillas had some dominant males that were terrible and would commit violent acts. One day, those males sifted through a garbage pile and ate the spoiled food, and ended up dying. The remaining gorillas that lived ended up living peaceably after that. Don't know if that relates to humans or not, but something to think about.
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There was also the troop of Bonobos Monkeys being studied in the wild where the males were tyrants and violent. Finally a bunch of females drove the 'leadership' out and after that drove out any adolescent male displaying those tendencies. i've long wished i could find a follow up to see if the pendulum swung al the way over and Females became tyrannical, or violent with each other as well as the males?
 
chic said:
We lived a more harmonious existence in the 60's and 70's so if our brain cells are intact, yes we can remember how to do that. Just stop forcing your opinion on others is a good start.
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Chic, I disagree. In the 60s we had Vietnam, Watts, Detroit, Chicago, assassinations of JFK, MLK, RFK, many other manifestations of violence and hatred. Some things have gotten worse but some things have gotten better. The 70s were more inward-looking and in some ways I do think there was more interracial understanding back then.
 
JimBob1952 said:
Chic, I disagree. In the 60s we had Vietnam, Watts, Detroit, Chicago, assassinations of JFK, MLK, RFK, many other manifestations of violence and hatred. Some things have gotten worse but some things have gotten better. The 70s were more inward-looking and in some ways I do think there was more interracial understanding back then.
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Agreed! i always think of the 60's as the decade of Assassinations and much violence in the streets. And most of the 'communes' were little more than cults. Tho i actually lived in a few small 'communal' households, largest being 6 people, where we simply could afford to live in better housing and eat better by pooling resources, most of us worked or were students funded by parents; split all monthly bills evenly--phone bills--the base was split, we paid for own long distance calls--they were itemized on the bills. But 2 of those were in the 70s not 60s.
 
No. Some could--a few groups have historically--but most throughout history have and always will be at the mercy of powerful, greedy people who want more of the same and oftentimes use discord and war to that end. In the US (and much of the Western world), we're being herded into polarized tribalism.
 
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Of course not. We're great apes. We have 99% of our genes in common with chimpanzees. Chimpanzees have tribalism, war, infanticide, rape, cannibalism.... in short, everything that we have—without culture.

The point is not to want to live in harmony. It will never happen.

The point is to value what we have that makes us human, that makes us more than our animal natures: art, literature, music, film... CULTURE.
 

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