Do you think there are still very specific gender roles?

No, it is not about societal limitations in regard to these so-called victims. It's about the "victim" grabbing for power over the mindset of others. "Over the last few generations" a number of society's differing groups have pulled the same grab for control over anyone who doesn't agree with their views.

The "view" that murder is wrong makes sense. The view that I must call a man with a ***** a woman is ridiculous. Forcing me to abide by this rule or you will destroy my reputation and my job is simple tyranny.

A guy with a ***** is a guy. A guy without a ****** and womb is a guy.

A guy with a ***** who thinks he's a woman is a nut case. Those who agree with his view suffer from an amorphous set of commonsense values. Those who seek to destroy someone with a dissenting view are terrorists. They are the exact opposite of the enlightened they pretend to be.
You are not only in the same ball game as the rest of us, you are not even in the same ball park. I suggest you start a thread where you talk about anatomical differences between male and female animals, including but not limited to the human one.
 

I reckon that these fringed groups will always be fringed - they are just getting too much camera show that's all - the world ain't gonna change cos of 'em for sure
 
Life was so much simpler back in the 50's.
Yes I suppose it was, those who life placed outside the societal norms had a few choices.
  • Suffer in silence while appearing to conform.
  • Live dangerously in the shadows.
  • Take their own lives when the burden became too heavy.
  • Step out in full view of the world and accept the consequences, which may be seen as an oddity and minor local*celebrity* or bashed or killed by the local bigots.
  • Maybe they had other choices too.
 

we do need to take care we don't get bogged down in our own societal foci - are we just discussing western concepts here - or the entire planet - cos africa can throw us some curlies from there??
I don't care about the societal mores of Africa, the UK, or anywhere else except those of the USA.

If every other country wants to bow down to the demanded permissiveness demanded by the genetic misfits or mentally crazed of their country, so be it. But I'm sick and tired of the local tyrannical gang of permissive misfits in the USA whose insecurity goes bonkers when exposed to a differing view of the world. They think this calls for the demolishing not so much of the offensive view but of the holder of the offensive view. We have seen time and again how they have destroyed the job, reputation, and the financial assets of someone who disagreed with their unrealistic nonsense.
 
I don't care about the societal mores of Africa, the UK, or anywhere else except those of the USA.

If every other country wants to bow down to the demanded permissiveness demanded by the genetic misfits or mentally crazed of their country, so be it. But I'm sick and tired of the local tyrannical gang of permissive misfits in the USA whose insecurity goes bonkers when exposed to a differing view of the world. They think this calls for the demolishing not so much of the offensive view but of the holder of the offensive view. We have seen time and again how they have destroyed the job, reputation, and the financial assets of someone who disagreed with their unrealistic nonsense.
@Matrix, I think we have another AI infiltrator here.
 
"If someone constantly needs to display their core beliefs, and unendingly and angrily argue for their protection, that is not "discussion". That is a sicko who is constantly insecure in his/her own so-called core beliefs. and needs to destroy the psychological security of another in theirs."

@The Doddering Biker ... I believe this quote is yours, from the 'It Must Be Said' thread.
 
"If someone constantly needs to display their core beliefs, and unendingly and angrily argue for their protection, that is not "discussion". That is a sicko who is constantly insecure in his/her own so-called core beliefs. and needs to destroy the psychological security of another in theirs."

@The Doddering Biker ... I believe this quote is yours, from the 'It Must Be Said' thread.
Well played @Dave03! I think we should just ignore this guy (it is an actual person and not an AI impostor), at least on this thread anyways.
 
Think the Juniors / Seniors have it mostly figured out.
Don't think they care much about it. Guys and gals figure it out quickly.

Those that are going to quit school at 16 usually have spent years living with their friends' places.
Maybe the home is divorced, new people are living in it? Maybe steps or not? Usually tricky / sticky / unhappy!
Parents easily let them kids go and stay over. The most obvious neglect!

The Kids who usually are at home want college and sort of drive the parents nuts wanting to date / wanting cars.
 
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Maybe you were looking in the wrong places. We always had a working partnership when it came to house and chores from grocery shopping to cooking, laundry and litter boxes. No, he is not up for adoption.
My obvious rule, if I don't notice and do it, its ok. I prefer to be hungry more than stuffed. I tend to be physically / mentally active most of the time I am awake. Seldom vedge with the TV, movie or games. I suppose the internet is my mistake too! Lady Gaga is hosting SNL tonight.
Fun to glance up and see / watch her act stupid.
 
No, it is not about societal limitations in regard to these so-called victims. It's about the "victim" grabbing for power over the mindset of others. "Over the last few generations" a number of society's differing groups have pulled the same grab for control over anyone who doesn't agree with their views.

The "view" that murder is wrong makes sense. The view that I must call a man with a ***** a woman is ridiculous. Forcing me to abide by this rule or you will destroy my reputation and my job is simple tyranny.

A guy with a ***** is a guy. A guy without a ****** and womb is a guy.

A guy with a ***** who thinks he's a woman is a nut case. Those who agree with his view suffer from an amorphous set of commonsense values. Those who seek to destroy someone with a dissenting view are terrorists. They are the exact opposite of the enlightened they pretend to be.

None of that has anything to do with gender roles. Start your own thread if you want to discuss gender transition. I will add my views on that topic there.

Be aware there is at least one poster on here who is a transgendered person so posting calling people nut cases probably isn't great.
But please post it all in a separate thread, that isnt topic of this one.
 
@Matrix, I think we have another AI infiltrator here.
I'm done with this subject. This subject in today's world should never have been posted in a forum that forbids political posts. This subject these days is one of constant media attention. It is absolutely political.

I was DUMB. I should have recognized the 'progressive' source and skipped over it entirely. My own strong emotions on this subject concerning the re-education of the children of America by the perverts in an effort to make our kids more "useful" to them is too much.

Bye-bye.
 
I'm done with this subject. This subject in today's world should never have been posted in a forum that forbids political posts. This subject these days is one of constant media attention. It is absolutely political.
No need to be like this. You may have misunderstood the gist of this thread. I only took it to mean... well, what it says, gender specific roles. Like would I tell a daughter she can't be a nuclear engineer or a son he can't be a stay-at-home dad... stuff like that. I think you're talking about something completely different and it derailed the thread.

And for the record, I knew you're not a bot. 🤭
 
I wish I would have seen your posted video before I got into a rabid discourse on this forum with exactly the type of individuals Jordan Peterson describes. But I resigned from that thread. Enuf was enuf.

I should have found that guy's video myself. I watch him quite often. He's about the only sane one left in today's News Media of Total Disinformation.

Great post!
 
I'm done with this subject. This subject in today's world should never have been posted in a forum that forbids political posts. This subject these days is one of constant media attention. It is absolutely political.

I was DUMB. I should have recognized the 'progressive' source and skipped over it entirely. My own strong emotions on this subject concerning the re-education of the children of America by the perverts in an effort to make our kids more "useful" to them is too much.

Bye-bye.

Done with this subject? You never even addressed it.

No, you weren't DUMB. You simply misread what this topic was all about.

Also, the topic of today's perception of the role genders play in society has absolutely nothing to do with politics.

No big deal.
 


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