Dr. Robert Malone

Chic, you cannot hide from me. You have to try and do better next time! I always come up with the goods :D:D:D

The development of mRNA vaccines was a collaborative effort; Robert Malone contributed to their development, but he is not their inventor.

The development of the mRNA vaccines is due to the work of hundreds of researchers, one of which is Robert Malone. Together with his co-authors, Malone contributed early evidence that mRNA could be delivered and produce proteins in cells. However, because crucial hurdles to develop the mRNA vaccines were resolved by many researchers , Malone cannot be claimed the inventor of this vaccine technology.

https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...d-to-their-development-but-he-is-not-their-in
 

What matters is that a member of the team creating the vaccine, Dr Malone, knows more about it then most do and if he has concerns about the vaccine people should listen and decide for themselves. Being censored is suspect. Why isn't he allowed freedom of speech? Who doesn't want his opinions known? Who chooses the fact checkers? Who pays them? :unsure:
 
Chic, you cannot hide from me. You have to try and do better next time! I always come up with the goods :D:D:D

The development of mRNA vaccines was a collaborative effort; Robert Malone contributed to their development, but he is not their inventor.

The development of the mRNA vaccines is due to the work of hundreds of researchers, one of which is Robert Malone. Together with his co-authors, Malone contributed early evidence that mRNA could be delivered and produce proteins in cells. However, because crucial hurdles to develop the mRNA vaccines were resolved by many researchers , Malone cannot be claimed the inventor of this vaccine technology.

https://healthfeedback.org/claimrev...d-to-their-development-but-he-is-not-their-in
I'm not hiding. I know Malone was one of a group of scientists who worked on mRNA tech and development.
 
@Don M. -- On a board with a no politics rule, you're somehow a special exception, how? It's like a guest lighting up a cigarette at the dinner table when the host maintains a no smoking environment.
 
No, but a segment of our country seems be pushing for it. I live in rural PA where there are many anti-government religious types who believe Christ won't return without their help. All they want is to start Armageddon, then "The Lord" will take care of everything else. Nuts.
The media is doing a good job of marginalizing certain segments of society, so I don't think you should worry about them. Also bear in mind that, while the USA is a democratic republic, money usually decides which way the wind blows, and nuts (generally) don't have access to a lot of that.
 
Read how Dr Malone invented Anti Vaxxery!

"With Dr Malone eagerly going to bed with quacks, antivaxxers and far-right white supremacists (like Steve Bannon), it is a bit reminiscent of the paranoid conspiracy theorist and COVID-19-denialist Judy Mikovits, who by being a former virologist is the proper scientific authority whom these people will accept. Incidentally also an article by Smut Clyde! "

https://forbetterscience.com/2021/10/04/how-dr-robert-malone-invented-antivaxxery/
 
What matters is that a member of the team creating the vaccine, Dr Malone, knows more about it then most do and if he has concerns about the vaccine people should listen and decide for themselves. Being censored is suspect. Why isn't he allowed freedom of speech? Who doesn't want his opinions known? Who chooses the fact checkers? Who pays them? :unsure:

Agree here ........ Is Malone talking himself up a-bit ? Maybe so but. Censoring the opinions of an, educated, informed , learned man is IMO just wrong. Let all hear what he has to say .......... then draw their own conclusion, and make an informed decision for themselves.

But of course the control freaks of the world would disagree.
 
@Don M. -- On a board with a no politics rule, you're somehow a special exception, how? It's like a guest lighting up a cigarette at the dinner table when the host maintains a no smoking environment.
I'm new to this forum, so I thought that I would ask for clarification to the "No Politics" rule that you mentioned before I blunder into forbidden topics. I noticed the "No Politics" statement in a welcome message, but checking further there is no mention of it in the published "Terms and Rules" that I agreed to in my registration. There is probably good reason for this since everything seems to be politicized these days. Is discussion of COVID prohibited for example? I would think that it would be a useful topic for seniors. Facebook seems to be struggling with this and has yet to provide good guidance to people who post there.

Perhaps the best that can be done is a simple plea for civility. The paragraph on behavior in the Terms and Rules may be the best that we can do:
"You agree to not use the Service to submit or link to any Content which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, spam or spam-like, likely to offend, contains adult or objectionable content, contains personal information of others, risks copyright infringement, encourages unlawful activity, or otherwise violates any laws. You are entirely responsible for the content of, and any harm resulting from, that Content or your conduct."

Do you agree?
 
I'm new to this forum, so I thought that I would ask for clarification to the "No Politics" rule that you mentioned before I blunder into forbidden topics.
Good question, I have wondered about this as well. What is and isn't politics is unclear to me and it seems a lot of posts here are about things political. Maybe it means not talking about individual politicians? Like Biden or Trump?

The definition I found on the internet is:

noun
  • the activities associated with the governance of a country or other area, especially the debate or conflict among individuals or parties having or hoping to achieve power.
  • the activities of governments concerning the political relations between countries.
Not a lot of help either.
 
I'm new to this forum, so I thought that I would ask for clarification to the "No Politics" rule that you mentioned before I blunder into forbidden topics. I noticed the "No Politics" statement in a welcome message, but checking further there is no mention of it in the published "Terms and Rules" that I agreed to in my registration. There is probably good reason for this since everything seems to be politicized these days. Is discussion of COVID prohibited for example? I would think that it would be a useful topic for seniors. Facebook seems to be struggling with this and has yet to provide good guidance to people who post there.

Perhaps the best that can be done is a simple plea for civility. The paragraph on behavior in the Terms and Rules may be the best that we can do:
"You agree to not use the Service to submit or link to any Content which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, spam or spam-like, likely to offend, contains adult or objectionable content, contains personal information of others, risks copyright infringement, encourages unlawful activity, or otherwise violates any laws. You are entirely responsible for the content of, and any harm resulting from, that Content or your conduct."

Do you agree?

The rule was in place when I joined the forum. It's a good one. Politics were once allowed but cleaning up the messes--mostly created by Americans--caused so much work for Matrix (forum owner) that he put in place the restriction.

Apparently, the discussions before the rule were not civil and Matrix must have given up on the hope that they ever would be. I completely understand his decision. Even with the 'No Politics' rule, posters still try to sneak in cheap shots--such as the post removed earlier in this thread--and others are quick to take the bait in increasingly heated response. Politics still cause enough housekeeping work for Matrix even with the rule that I don't think you'll convince him to overturn it with a "plea for civility." I think he could allow politics if he disallowed US posters, but since I'm American and really like the board, I hope he'll keep it as it is.
 
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I'm new to this forum, so I thought that I would ask for clarification to the "No Politics" rule that you mentioned before I blunder into forbidden topics. I noticed the "No Politics" statement in a welcome message, but checking further there is no mention of it in the published "Terms and Rules" that I agreed to in my registration. There is probably good reason for this since everything seems to be politicized these days. Is discussion of COVID prohibited for example? I would think that it would be a useful topic for seniors. Facebook seems to be struggling with this and has yet to provide good guidance to people who post there.

Perhaps the best that can be done is a simple plea for civility. The paragraph on behavior in the Terms and Rules may be the best that we can do:
"You agree to not use the Service to submit or link to any Content which is defamatory, abusive, hateful, threatening, spam or spam-like, likely to offend, contains adult or objectionable content, contains personal information of others, risks copyright infringement, encourages unlawful activity, or otherwise violates any laws. You are entirely responsible for the content of, and any harm resulting from, that Content or your conduct."

Do you agree?
Well hello and welcome aboard. (-8 I honestly don't know precisely how to answer that question, but you may have noticed that there are no posts critical or supportive of specific politicians, political parties, or political philosophies. You may be familiar with a UseNet retirement group that abandoned retirement issues to concentrate pretty much exclusively on endlessly bitter political banter. I suspect that the operators of this group are wisely intent on avoiding a similar fate for senior forums. May not be as exciting or appealing in some ways, but for many seniors it serves its purpose and at times can be quite interesting. I've enjoyed participating in a discussion of global birth rates, and their causes, and although I haven't seen or engaged in it I see from doing a search that there has been a discussion of CRT -- perhaps borderline political? Anyhow, this group is what it is.
 
Well hello and welcome aboard. (-8 I honestly don't know precisely how to answer that question, but you may have noticed that there are no posts critical or supportive of specific politicians, political parties, or political philosophies. You may be familiar with a UseNet retirement group that abandoned retirement issues to concentrate pretty much exclusively on endlessly bitter political banter. I suspect that the operators of this group are wisely intent on avoiding a similar fate for senior forums. May not be as exciting or appealing in some ways, but for many seniors it serves its purpose and at times can be quite interesting. I've enjoyed participating in a discussion of global birth rates, and their causes, and although I haven't seen or engaged in it I see from doing a search that there has been a discussion of CRT -- perhaps borderline political? Anyhow, this group is what it is.
If it's the one I started, that thread about CRT was about cathode-ray tubes and CRT monitors. :cool:
 
As to Malone's claim that he is the "inventor of the core mRNA vaccine technologies (including the idea of mRNA vaccines) and RNA transfection" this is not clear. Hundreds of people have worked on and contributed to the development of mRNA vaccines

Malone invented the mRNA technology.
Other people developed different vaccines based on the mRNA technology that he invented.
Developing a vaccine is not the same thing as inventing the technology that the mRNA vaccines are based on.

Here's an interview with Dr. Malone and Joe Rogan. <--
It's long and I've only watched the first part so far, which covers his development of the mRNA techology.

I don't think anyone on here thinks the coronavirus is a hoax.

Perhaps a better question is whether a virus has ever been isolated <-- which is a requirement to prove a virus exists.
The answer is no, so make of that what you will.

Look at all the falsified death certificates, "with" covid when deaths were from other causes in all cases.
The same corporations who say there are viruses, are the same ones putting out the propaganda and fake news.
"With" covid does not mean caused by it but that's how they're counting it, and they're the ones who say there are viruses.

@Islander and @Murrmurr, you're both posting false information.
Contaminated genetic material is not a virus, and host cells are not viruses. No virus has ever been isolated.
Watch the video that I posted. Don't fall for the trap of posting information in the dark from propaganda and ignorance.
 
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Perhaps a better question is whether a virus has ever been isolated <-- which is a requirement to prove a virus exists.
The answer is no, so make of that what you will.
Not only has the COVID-19 virus been isolated, but the variants are also isolated and identified.
Look at all the falsified death certificates, "with" covid when deaths were from other causes in all cases.
The same corporations who say there are viruses, are the same ones putting out the propaganda and fake news.
"With" covid does not mean caused by it but that's how they're counting it, and they're the ones who say there are viruses.
It is not unusual for people infected with respiratory diseases to die from other diseases, pneumonia (the old man's friend) is a common secondary infection. If you recall, there were early 2020 controversies over the cause of death listed on death certificates not listing COVID-19 as a cause and consequently an under-counting of COVID-19 as a cause of death. If there had not been a COVID-19 infection, the death would not have occurred. We are now doing a much more rigorous and accurate accounting.
Here are good discussions on this topic from 2020: https://khn.org/news/how-covid-death-counts-become-the-stuff-of-conspiracy-theories/ and https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/07/about-30-covid-deaths-may-not-be-classified-such
 
Perhaps a better question is whether a virus has ever been isolated <-- which is a requirement to prove a virus exists.
The answer is no, so make of that what you will.
Not only was SARS CoV2 isolated early in 2020, it's gnomes were studied. And last year each of it's spike proteins were studied, and then it's "sugar tricks" were observed (it uses our own sugars to hold our cell's ACE receptors open so it can enter the cells). Every country with the technology to do so has broken the virus down and studied it, and nearly every one has shared their findings.
 
Not only has the COVID-19 virus been isolated, but the variants are also isolated and identified.

It is not unusual for people infected with respiratory diseases to die from other diseases, pneumonia (the old man's friend) is a common secondary infection. If you recall, there were early 2020 controversies over the cause of death listed on death certificates not listing COVID-19 as a cause and consequently an under-counting of COVID-19 as a cause of death. If there had not been a COVID-19 infection, the death would not have occurred. We are now doing a much more rigorous and accurate accounting.
Here are good discussions on this topic from 2020: https://khn.org/news/how-covid-death-counts-become-the-stuff-of-conspiracy-theories/ and https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/07/about-30-covid-deaths-may-not-be-classified-such
Whatever this thing is, it is very real. The wife and I are fully vaccinated and boosted, and yet I am convinced that we both contracted the Omacron variant at a Christmas party. One of the attendees (the transmitter?) described her condition as a "cold". Well if it was a "cold", it is the Cold From Hell. I coughed my way out of bed last night at 3am and was up for two hours blowing my nose and spewing mucus. This, after I had convinced myself that I had passed the peak and was getting well. I am a healthy individual. I haven't been this sick in years. COVID seems very real to me, and had we not been vaccinated I'm sure it would be much worse, perhaps fatal.
 


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