Drone pilots are showing signs of PTSD and many are quitting!

SifuPhil said:
Some more so than others, I believe.



I'm not judging the right or wrong of a country - I'm talking about what constitutes the physical, mental and emotional abilities of individual warriors. A warrior has no choice but to obey their commander, whether the orders they receive are moral or not.

It's what they do once they are in a combat situation, for whatever reasons, that I'm interested in here - not politics.
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It seems to me that YOU were the one to first bring up politics...
 

SifuPhil said:
Only in the most passing way - I had to illustrate the two polarities.
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No... not in "the most passing way" Your implication was very explicit.. Liberals.. Not patriotic and TOUGH like the REAL Americans... the Conservatives.
 

QuickSilver said:
No... not in "the most passing way" Your implication was very explicit.. Liberals.. Not patriotic and TOUGH like the REAL Americans... the Conservatives.
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Oh, dear Lord! YOU are the one with the political hang-up, not me. I despise politics and belong to no "camp" - I only used those terms because I had to use SOMETHING, lacking any easier labels.

Okay, let me put it this way: there are a number of American citizens who despise the thought of killing, and there are a number of Americans who are okay with the idea. If you like you could refer to them as groups, polar opposites, opposing camps ... the label (in this context) is not what is important.
 
Apparently you are not really atuned. Many times Conservatives use Liberal views and etiology as "Proof" they are not as patriotic... or somehow not as tough or pro-American as Conservatives.. It's implied ALL the time.. Look at how Obama is portrayed by the far Right.. WEAK...FECKLESS... because he doesn't rush off into war. So when you point out things like that, well... we've heard it before and it's insulting. I have to take you at your word that you were not even thinking that... but......... I wonder.
 
QuickSilver said:
Apparently you are not really atuned. Many times Conservatives use Liberal views and etiology as "Proof" they are not as patriotic... or somehow not as tough or pro-American as Conservatives.. It's implied ALL the time.. Look at how Obama is portrayed by the far Right.. WEAK...FECKLESS... because he doesn't rush off into war. So when you point out things like that, well... we've heard it before and it's insulting. I have to take you at your word that you were not even thinking that... but......... I wonder.
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I admit I'm no more immune to stereotypes than the common man (or woman, to be PC), but I AM wise enough to know that folks from ANY viewpoint are capable of killing ...

... but now i know one of your trigger points - thanks! :cool:
 
SifuPhil said:
Some more so than others, I believe.



I'm not judging the right or wrong of a country - I'm talking about what constitutes the physical, mental and emotional abilities of individual warriors. A warrior has no choice but to obey their commander, whether the orders they receive are moral or not.

It's what they do once they are in a combat situation, for whatever reasons, that I'm interested in here - not politics.
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Since I replied to something you said, that awful church massacre has happened and I'm going to concede that some probably are way more inclined to killing people than others. And then the emotional damage that's done by those kinds of circumstances probably does twist some people up very badly. So it's a double whammy.
 
War is not a movie and if you're quoting "I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it." Look what happened to him.
 
Do they test young people who play extremely violent video games for PTSD? The images can be the same even if not real.
 

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